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#1 Edited by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

The Star Wars Championship Tournament #1

I feel like the quality of Star Wars debates on Comic Vine have deteriorated over time. This tournament is designed to bring that quality back to the community. You have the opportunity to debate with just about any Star Wars character you want, so I encourage anyone and everyone to sign up and make a team.

Each participant will have 50 points to spend on characters which have been given a price based on how effective they are in combat. These will be all kinds of characters - Jedi, Sith, Dark Jedi, Non-Force Users, droids, bounty hunters - and will span across all of the prominent time periods in galactic history - Prequel and Trilogy era, The Old Republic, New Jedi Order and more. Characters are first come first serve, mostly, but there are a couple of fodder troops that can be chosen multiple times, like Mandalorians, Imperial Guards or Magnaguards and more!

For now, I will say we can start with 10 participants. If more people want to join in I will certainly extend this limit.

Know of a character you want to use but don't see it on the list? Let me know and I will add it to the list once we agree on a price.

A panel of experienced and reliable judges will be selected to vote on the winner of every match, in order to determine a winner as fairly as possible. So far @laflux and @dondave have agreed to be judges, so I extend a massive thanks to them for taking the time to help make this tournament happen. If you want to be a judge let me know - we need as many as possible, and it'd be appreciated a lot. You can judge as well as participate. But obviously - you won't be judging yourself. I will also be on the judges panel but fear not, I'm completely without bias. And if you guys really have a problem with me being a judge, I'll step down. We have all the judges we need!

Matches will generally be combat-centric but I may throw in a couple of wildcards and objectives here and there to keep things interesting. I will also be participating, but I will have other people make my match for me in order to remove any kind of advantage I would have from making my own settings. I will also only choose my team when half of the slots have been filled.

Big thanks to @dccomicsrule2011 and @shootingnova for helping me create the list of characters and balancing out their prices.

This tournament will start in between 1-2 weeks, possibly longer. You have plenty of time to study your characters and think about your team.

TL;DR? Just ask me any questions you have!

Now.. without further ado - the list! Remember - You have 50 points to spend. First come first serve unless stated otherwise. Feel free to suggest extra additions or debate if characters cost too much or too little.

Legacy era

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  • Darth Caedus (45)
  • Jaina Solo (20)
  • Darth Wyyrlok III (15)
  • Leia (15 points)
  • Ben Skywalker (15)
  • Cade Skywalker (15)

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New Jedi Order/New Republic era

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  • Luke Skywalker (51)
  • Jacen Solo (30)
  • Kyp Durron (25)
  • Streen (25)
  • Kyle Katarn (20)
  • Joruus C'baoth (20)
  • Jaina Solo (20)
  • Mara Jade Skywalker (20)
  • Carron Horn (20)
  • Kueller (20)
  • Gethzerion (20)

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Rebellion era

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  • Luke (25)
  • Vader (25)
  • Lumiya (20)
  • Ben Kenobi (15)
  • Mara Jade (15)
  • Flint (15)

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Rise of the Empire era

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  • Darth Sidious (51)
  • Yoda (45)
  • Darth Plagueis (45)
  • Darth Tenebrous (40)
  • Darth Venamis (30)
  • Anakin Skywalker (30)
  • Count Dooku (30)
  • Mace Windu (25)
  • Darth Maul (TCW) (25)
  • Mother Talzin (25)
  • Kit Fisto (25)
  • Plo Koon (25)
  • Darth Bane (20)
  • Darth Zannah (20)
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi (20)
  • Darth Maul (TPM) (20)
  • Agen Kolar (20)
  • Sora Bulq (20)
  • Asajj Ventress (20)
  • Savage Opress (20)
  • Qui-Gon Jinn (15)
  • Quinlan Vos (15)
  • Aayla Secura (15)
  • Ki-Adi-Mundi (15)
  • Shaak Ti (15)
  • Ahsoka Tano (15)
  • Ferus Olin (15)
  • Darth Krayt (15)
  • Nightsister (5) (can choose more than once)
  • Nightbrother (5) (can choose more than once)

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Old Republic era

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  • Hero of Tython (30)
  • Darth Nox (30)
  • Emperor Vitiate (30)
  • Darth Traya (30)
  • Darth Nihilus (25)
  • Barsen'thor (20)
  • Emperor's Wrath (20)
  • Satele Shan (20)
  • Darth Malgus (20)
  • Revan (20)
  • Naga Sadow (20)
  • Meetra Surik (20)
  • Exar Kun (20)
  • Darth Mekhis (20)
  • Darth Thanaton (20)
  • Gnost-Dural (15)
  • Ulic-Qel Droma (15)
  • Darth Sion (15)
  • Darth Malak (15)

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Before the Republic era

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  • Xesh (20)
  • Daegan Lok (15)
  • Hawk Ryo (15)
  • Skal'Nas (15)
  • Quan-Jang (15)
  • Rori Fenn (15)
  • Trill (10)
  • Shae Koda (10)
  • Sek'nos Rath (10)
  • Tasha Ryo (10)
  • Flesh Raider (5) (Can choose more than one)

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Non-Force Users

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  • General Grievous (25)
  • Durge (25)
  • Magnaguard (10) (can choose more than one) (the ones that fought Kit Fisto and Obi-Wan, aka the competent versions)
  • Imperial Guard (5) (can choose more than one)
  • Vitiate's Imperial Guard (5) (can choose more than one)
  • 2 Mandalorian Commandos from Death Watch (5) (can choose more than once)
  • Boba Fett (10)
  • Jango Fett (10)
  • Shae Vizsla (10)
  • Cad Bane (10)
  • Kir Kanos (10)
  • Theron Shan (10)
  • Jayce Malcom (10)
  • IG-88 (10)
  • 4-LOM (10)
  • HK-47 (10)
  • Han Solo (5)
  • Chewbacca (5)
  • Princess Leia (5)
  • R2-D2 (5)
  • 1 B2 Super Battle Droid (1) (can choose more than once)
  • 1 standard Clone Troop (1) (can choose more than once)
  • Droideka (5) (can choose more than once)
  • Clone Arc Trooper (2) (can choose more than once)
  • Gungan Soldier (1) (can choose more than once)
  • Old Republic Commando (1) (can choose more than once)
  • Stormtrooper (1) (can choose more than once)
  • Ewok (0.5) (can choose more than once)
  • Jar Jar Binks (999999999999)

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Rules

  • Characters will be in character, with their appropriate morals throughout this tournament.
  • Teamwork will definitely be a factor, and old rivalries, past relationships as well as personalities and morals will come into play. For example: Darth Maul and Obi-Wan Kenobi, obviously, will not make a good team, and likewise, if they end up facing each other it is more than likely they will go for each other and not anyone else because of their rivalry.
  • We will be using Legends, or, existing EU versions, as well as Movie and TCW versions. Every character will be composite.
  • You must debate with respect and civility throughout. Don't insult other users or argue over anything petty. Don't drag things off-topic. Just be chill. If someone is giving you any problems, don't respond in the same manner. Just ignore them or point them out and I'll handle it.
  • That's all I can think of for rules at the moment.. if there are any I have forgotten to mention let me know and I'll add them in.

I hope this goes alright for a first attempt at this kind of tournament. If you want, help make this happen in any way you can whether it be helping flesh out the rules, being a judge or participant, or even just tagging a friend who may be interested. Thank you in advance, guys.

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#2 Edited by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@shootingnova @dccomicsrule2011 @dondave @laflux @whirlwind_33 @shroudofsorrow @juiceboks @jaken7 @ssjdarthplagueis @darkraiden @the_legendary_supersaiyan_hulk @easternwind @jedixman I'm aware I have forgotten people, and I apologize in advance. If you have debated Star Wars or even talked about it in the same thread as me before, there's a high possibility I intended to tag you. I want everyone to participate, so get in here and make a team.

Teams - We have the minimum number of teams needed to start, but I'll keep this open for a while longer in case anyone else wants to join

@shootingnova

  • Darth Traya (30)
  • Meetra Surik (20)

@faymousinus

  • Darth Vader (25)
  • Darth Nihilus (25)

@jaken7

  • Plo Koon (25)
  • Revan (20)
  • Chewbacca (5)

@whirlwind_33

  • Streen (25)
  • Kit Fisto (25)

Since half of the slots are filled, I'm gonna drop my team

  • Darth Maul (TCW) (25)
  • Darth Malgus (20)
  • 2 Mandalorian Commandos (Deathwatch) (5)

@eisenfauste

  • General Grievous (25)
  • IG-88 (10)
  • Jango Fett (10)

@dccomicsrule2011

  • Anakin Skywalker (25)
  • Corron Horn (25)

@tparks

  • Darth Zannah (20)
  • Darth Bane (20)
  • Kerra Holt (10)

@keithson

  • Mace Windu (25)
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi (20)
  • 5 Clone Troopers (5)

@jacthripper

  • Kyle Katarn (20)
  • Boba Fett w/ Beskar (15)
  • Cade Skywalker (15)

Judges Panel

Me @laflux @dondave @jaken7

@shootingnova

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#3 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

TCW Maul and Mace Windu please. Along with that TCW Maul comes with all his previous feats along with feats in the comics right?

#4 Edited by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Darth Traya (30)

2. Meetra Surik (20)

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#5 Edited by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

TCW Maul and Mace Windu please. Along with that TCW Maul comes with all his previous feats along with feats in the comics right?

Yeah. In.

1. Darth Traya (25)

2. Gethzerion (20)

3. I have no idea who to spend 5 points on.

Suggest a 5-pointer if you want and I can list it. Also, your team is in.

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#6 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio
#7 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: What does your team is in mean? Nobody else can pick them? I doubt anybody else would pick them anyways, that was the entire purpose of my choices. It should leave variety for other characters.

How about....R2-D2 LOL.

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#8 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

also JAR JAR IS OVER 9000!!!

LOL.

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#9 Edited by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@shootingnova: I came so close to putting him in.

And I now will.

Your team is in means you are signed up for the tourney and nobody else can take your characters (unless you used one of the generic duplicates like Magnaguards)

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#10 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Edited by JakeN7 (11257 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: Can we participate and be a judge, or would I have to pick one or the other? Obviously I wouldn't be judging myself...

Also, this is an amazing idea. Great work!

#12 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaken7 said:

@i_like_swords: Can we participate and be a judge, or would I have to pick one or the other? Obviously I wouldn't be judging myself...

Also, this is an amazing idea. Great work!

Yeah, you can participate and judge! I need to edit that into the OP, thanks for reminding me.

Thanks man :D hope to see you competing.

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#13 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

It is one of the best ideas I have ever seen. :3

#14 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: Add R2-D2 to my team list (in your second post).

Just keeping things updated :P

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#15 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio
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#16 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

@shootingnova: He is the most formidable foe I have ever seen. You have chosen well...

@i_like_swords: I just noticed Palpatine costs 51 points. >;d

#17 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio
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#18 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

He is the most formidable foe I have ever seen. You have chosen well...

My remaining 5 points had to be used....

I just noticed Palpatine costs 51 points. >;d

That's because NJO/Legacy Luke and Palpatine aren't meant to allowed to be used here. Too much power.

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#19 Edited by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

  • (LOL look at this noob choosing protocol droids and sh*t)

LOL. It's called an astromech droid. Hosting championship tournaments without even knowing the characters? Pffh. ^_^

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#20 Posted by dondave (34761 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords said:
  • (LOL look at this noob choosing protocol droids and sh*t)

LOL. It's called an astromech droid. Hosting championship tournaments without even knowing the characters? Pffh. ^_^

In all seriousness though, R2 might need to be moved up to a 10 pointer. He's basically like Jango Fett in droid form.

  • Oil spurting gun
  • Flamethrower
  • Tazer for non-lethal knockouts
  • Metal armor
  • Hacking capabilities
  • Enhanced perception and processing speed
  • Sonic screech
  • Flight
  • Stealth and infiltration skill
  • Martial Artist
  • Loose morals
  • Force speed
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#22 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Why no Star Wars: Legacy characters?

Huh. I recommended them to him but I don't think he added them.

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#23 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Why no Star Wars: Legacy characters?

Huh. I recommended them to him but I don't think he added them.

I didn't add any of the characters that you didn't give me prices for, since I don't know anything about them. PM me some prices!

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#24 Edited by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

In all seriousness though, R2 might need to be moved up to a 10 pointer. He's basically like Jango Fett in droid form.

  • Oil spurting gun
  • Flamethrower
  • Tazer for non-lethal knockouts
  • Metal armor
  • Hacking capabilities
  • Enhanced perception and processing speed
  • Sonic screech
  • Flight
  • Stealth and infiltration skill
  • Martial Artist
  • Loose morals
  • Force speed

Yeah, but then I can't use him, and when that happens I get angry, and when I get angry, I use the Force, and you won't like that.

He has decent capabilities in the film alone, but whether he would utilize them all is debatable. A number of these aren't useful in a fight, and since when did R2 get Force speed?

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#25 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords said:

In all seriousness though, R2 might need to be moved up to a 10 pointer. He's basically like Jango Fett in droid form.

  • Oil spurting gun
  • Flamethrower
  • Tazer for non-lethal knockouts
  • Metal armor
  • Hacking capabilities
  • Enhanced perception and processing speed
  • Sonic screech
  • Flight
  • Stealth and infiltration skill
  • Martial Artist
  • Loose morals
  • Force speed

Yeah, but then I can't use him, and when that happens I get angry, and when I get angry, I use the Force, and you won't like that.

He has decent capabilities in the film alone, but whether he would utilize them all is debatable. A number of these aren't useful in a fight, and since when did R2 get Force speed?

I was joking LOL. Force speed was referring to this:

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#27 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio
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#28 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: LOL. But do you really want to make him 10-pointer? He can't utilize all those attacks at once, and in general they're only so useful.

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#29 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio
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#30 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: LOL. But do you really want to make him 10-pointer? He can't utilize all those attacks at once, and in general they're only so useful.

No, he's a 5-pointer. If I'm being generous.

@i_like_swords: So you aren't debating?

I am debating, but I'm only selecting my team once 5 people make selections so I don't get first dibs on my own tournament. I hope I have some people to use by then..

@i_like_swords: The force is indeed strong with that one...

R2 vs Yoda would be a tough fight to call.

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#32 Edited by Easternwind (3372 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: I dont have the energy to look at this today, But ill look tomorrow, Im sure this sticks to the old EU right?

Im sure ill join, save a spot.

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#34 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

No, he's a 5-pointer. If I'm being generous.

I am debating, but I'm only selecting my team once 5 people make selections so I don't get first dibs on my own tournament. I hope I have some people to use by then..

You will be generous. Or I will use the Force.

You still have 6 characters (the two Fetts, Theron, Maul, Savage and Xesh), as well as probably Mekhis and Satele and so on.

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#35 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont have the energy to look at this today, But ill look tomorrow, Im sure this sticks to the old EU right?

Im sure ill join, save a spot.

Yes, it does, as well as the movies and TCW. Awesome.

C3PO -50?

Lol. Let's try and keep the conversation on-topic from now on, as to not clutter the thread.

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#36 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Posted by Syndicate (363 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: But keeping things organized is positively despicable.

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#39 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't know Dun Moch covered rape threats but uh.. sure, I'll be generous.

See? Mind Trick OP :P

But let's be serious. So you'll be keeping him at 5 because his resourcefulness is not as well used or adaptable as Jango.

Yah, as well as Malgus, Dural, and all the DotJ guys.. I should be okay and I don't mind using obscure characters. I have also began reading Quinlan Vos, so there's that!

I doubt anybody would use the DotJ people since just about nobody here knows anything about them, except for you, as well as @owie. Speaking of which, he might be interested in this.

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#40 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords said:

I didn't know Dun Moch covered rape threats but uh.. sure, I'll be generous.

See? Mind Trick OP :P

But let's be serious. So you'll be keeping him at 5 because his resourcefulness is not as well used or adaptable as Jango.

Yes.

Yah, as well as Malgus, Dural, and all the DotJ guys.. I should be okay and I don't mind using obscure characters. I have also began reading Quinlan Vos, so there's that!

I doubt anybody would use the DotJ people since just about nobody here knows anything about them, except for you, as well as @owie. Speaking of which, he might be interested in this.

Lols a pure DotJ team would be.. interesting. Thanks for calling Owie in here.

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#41 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio
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#42 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@shootingnova: Yeah, whenever you want, however you want. Just not after the tourney starts or during matches ;p

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#43 Posted by laflux (14382 posts) - - Show Bio

Does Bane get his Orbalisk armor, or that can be an addition worth more points........

#44 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio
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#45 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio
@laflux said:

Does Bane get his Orbalisk armor, or that can be an addition worth more points........

Orbalisk Bane has to be at least 35, if not 40.

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#46 Edited by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

Does Bane get his Orbalisk armor, or that can be an addition worth more points........

I think Bane with Orbalisks would be like.. 30? 25? I didn't want anyone to have amps but I could maybe make an exception.

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#47 Posted by i_like_swords (13318 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

Does Bane get his Orbalisk armor, or that can be an addition worth more points........

Orbalisk Bane has to be at least 35, if not 40.

Oh, damn. Well yeah, that^

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#48 Posted by laflux (14382 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

Does Bane get his Orbalisk armor, or that can be an addition worth more points........

Orbalisk Bane has to be at least 35, if not 40.

If I was competing I would try to sneak that in, because 20 points for Orbalisk on Bane would be a steal.

But I'm judging and I have to be partial :P

#49 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio
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#50 Posted by ShootingNova (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: Cross out R2 before anybody accidentally chooses him too.

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