Spectre wins. Oh crap I started something!!! Hear come the mob of Fanboys after me. Let me set the mood.
This music decribes everything that im about to face.
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Spectre wins. Oh crap I started something!!! Hear come the mob of Fanboys after me. Let me set the mood.
This music decribes everything that im about to face.
Logically, Spectre and LT would be close in power. Featwise, LT is better and has a grater authority than Spectre. But I guess it could depend on where they fight since LT's power is not as affective on beings outside of Marvel Multiverse. Also, DC tends to jobb the Spectre often.
Yup.
Yeah I try to be fair when it comes to these kinds of threads because everyone tends to underestimate The Spectre and glorify LT, who is powerful in his own right as long as his foes are within the multiverse he governs. But I can't argue that LT has a better record than Spectre even though I like Spectre more.
Agreed.
I'm hoping with The New 52, they would make Spectre the powerful being he is supposed to be.
So far him and Phantom Stranger are pretty powerful.
Lol
Living Tribunal should win under a normal circumstance but given the right time and acsess to his full power spectre could stalemate but not win
What full power you talking about?
@supermandefender said:
Spectre wins. Oh crap I started something!!! Hear come the mob of Fanboys after me. Let me set the mood.
This music decribes everything that im about to face.
Again you cant accept a DC character loses right?
Logically, Spectre and LT would be close in power. Featwise, LT is better and has a grater authority than Spectre. But I guess it could depend on where they fight since LT's power is not as affective on beings outside of Marvel Multiverse. Also, DC tends to jobb the Spectre often.
Yup.
Yeah I try to be fair when it comes to these kinds of threads because everyone tends to underestimate The Spectre and glorify LT, who is powerful in his own right as long as his foes are within the multiverse he governs. But I can't argue that LT has a better record than Spectre even though I like Spectre more.
Agreed.
I'm hoping with The New 52, they would make Spectre the powerful being he is supposed to be.
So far him and Phantom Stranger are pretty powerful.
Spectre was beaten Phantom Stranger with extreme ease in the past, that is BS
Living Tribunal should win under a normal circumstance but given the right time and acsess to his full power spectre could stalemate but not win
What full power you talking about?
@supermandefender said:Spectre wins. Oh crap I started something!!! Hear come the mob of Fanboys after me. Let me set the mood.
This music decribes everything that im about to face.
Again you cant accept a DC character loses right?
No are you kidding me I was just messing around. LT freaking STOMPS the Spectre!
I just thought thread could use some kick azz music! :)
The thing about The Living Tribunal is he is functionally God. We never see The One Above All. He never does anything. He has no feats. All we know is the Living Tribunal answers to him. Basically anything/ everything TOAA should be doing, The Tribunal does.
@marlboroman: hes not omnipotent
LT > Presence > Spectre
Spectre can`t destroy a universe while the Living Tribunal is the judge of the Marvel Multiverse, Living Tribunal derp.
Presence isnt Omnipotent and he never showed enought feats
Spectre can`t destroy a universe while the Living Tribunal is the judge of the Marvel Multiverse, Living Tribunal derp.
Presence isnt Omnipotent and he never showed enought feats
...you've got to be kidding...
@reactor: The Marvel fanboyism is strong with him.
@sithlantern93: @reactor: No fanboism. LT > Presence. Presence isnt Omnipotent because:
1) He said that.
2) He cant kill Great Evil Beast.
And he never showed Omniversal feats.
LT > Presence > Spectre.
@andreysemyonov1337: He said he was shaped. He did not say that he was not omnipotent. It could either allude to the writers or his creations. He did not aim to kill Great Evil Beast. He just reached out it's hand and absorbed it. Read some DC comics please. Btw, the Presence held the entire DC creation in his hand and gave it to Elaine Belloc. Also he did not get his butt handed him by a child who could copy powers or struggled for a bit to put down Nebulos, who does not even have solar system level feats. Stop wanking LT. It's painful.
@andreysemyonov1337: He said he was shaped. He did not say that he was not omnipotent. It could either allude to the writers or his creations. He did not aim to kill Great Evil Beast. He just reached out it's hand and absorbed it. Read some DC comics please. Btw, the Presence held the entire DC creation in his hand and gave it to Elaine Belloc. Also he did not get his butt handed him by a child who could copy powers or struggled for a bit to put down Nebulos, who does not even have solar system level feats. Stop wanking LT. It's painful.
Look at this:
He was shaped by external forces (may be equal to TOAA). Presence isnt Omnipotent.
LT destroys 2 megaverses. including entire DC-verse (except Overmonitor because he is Omnipotent).
LT > Presence > Spectre.
LT beats Spectre far easier.
@andreysemyonov1337: @sithlantern93: Azathoth & Yog-Sothoth own both ;P
@andreysemyonov1337: @sithlantern93: Azathoth & Yog-Sothoth own both ;P
Its Impossible, no one of them is equal to TOAA
TOAA > Azathoth > Yog Sothoth
Because TOAA is Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent.
Azathoth is Omnipotent and Omnipresent, but not Omniscient (he is mad).
Yog Sothoth is Omniscient and Omnipresent, but not Omnipotent.
@andreysemyonov1337: @sithlantern93: Azathoth & Yog-Sothoth own both ;P
Its Impossible, no one of them is equal to TOAA
TOAA > Azathoth > Yog Sothoth
Because TOAA is Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent.
Azathoth is Omnipotent and Omnipresent, but not Omniscient (he is mad).
Yog Sothoth is Omniscient and Omnipresent, but not Omnipotent.
If you said that Azathoth is omnipotent then he stalemates TOAA.
Though I agree that Azathoth isn't omniscient (that's why he is called "The Blind Idiot God") but in terms of omnipotnece he is equal to TOAA.
@andreysemyonov1337: @sithlantern93: Azathoth & Yog-Sothoth own both ;P
Its Impossible, no one of them is equal to TOAA
TOAA > Azathoth > Yog Sothoth
Because TOAA is Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent.
Azathoth is Omnipotent and Omnipresent, but not Omniscient (he is mad).
Yog Sothoth is Omniscient and Omnipresent, but not Omnipotent.
If you said that Azathoth is omnipotent then he stalemates TOAA.
Though I agree that Azathoth isn't omniscient (that's why he is called "The Blind Idiot God") but in terms of omnipotnece he is equal to TOAA.
Im not 100% that Azathoth is Omnipotent. In fact he is questionable Omnipotent.
@majestic99: Molecule man is stronger than Lt . i thought :/
Living Tribunal beats all DC universe solos in a fraction of second.
LT > > > > > > > ... > > > > > Presence > Spectre.
@power-corps: Are you insane? Or high?
In Forever Evil: Blight it's very clear that the Presence is omnipotent because he's God. Those scans sound like Vertigo to me, let's remember, that Vertigo has other Gods, like the one from Preacherverse who is only omnipotent in his throne, most Vertigo stuff is not cannon to DC. DC's Presence is Omnipotent, Idk about Vertigo. So, TOAA=Presence>LT>Spectre. In Forever Evi: Blight is very clear that the Presence does not intervene in most occasions, and Spectre is a independent being, he's just a divine creation. Although, if The Presence backups him, The Spectre should stomp LT.
@andreysemyonov1337: He said he was shaped. He did not say that he was not omnipotent. It could either allude to the writers or his creations. He did not aim to kill Great Evil Beast. He just reached out it's hand and absorbed it. Read some DC comics please. Btw, the Presence held the entire DC creation in his hand and gave it to Elaine Belloc. Also he did not get his butt handed him by a child who could copy powers or struggled for a bit to put down Nebulos, who does not even have solar system level feats. Stop wanking LT. It's painful.
Look at this:
He was shaped by external forces (may be equal to TOAA). Presence isnt Omnipotent.
LT destroys 2 megaverses. including entire DC-verse (except Overmonitor because he is Omnipotent).
LT > Presence > Spectre.
LT beats Spectre far easier.
do urself a favor reread the same scan u showed, plz. becuz ppl use the same scans to show presence is below x.
yes he said he was created by external force the authors.
and he ALSO SAID HE IS OMNIPOTENT AND INFINITE.....
this guy is the actual God.
In Forever Evil: Blight it's very clear that the Presence is omnipotent because he's God. Those scans sound like Vertigo to me, let's remember, that Vertigo has other Gods, like the one from Preacherverse who is only omnipotent in his throne, most Vertigo stuff is not cannon to DC. DC's Presence is Omnipotent, Idk about Vertigo. So, TOAA=Presence>LT>Spectre. In Forever Evi: Blight is very clear that the Presence does not intervene in most occasions, and Spectre is a independent being, he's just a divine creation. Although, if The Presence backups him, The Spectre should stomp LT.
i agree with half the stuff.
i agree that presence is God.
but spectre gonna get stomped by LT any day. Jim and Hal will put up a fight but LT will still win.
and all this stuff about spectre with presence backing.
anyone with God backing them up>anyone with no backing from God.
theirs no primal spectre or full backed by presence; spectre.
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