before anyone calls me a troll and locks this, know that this is the
DEATH OF NEW GODS version of the Source.
Fight in a neutral universe.
@van_cere: do you mean the presence?
@hyperlight: uh... No, I mean the Source. The presence would get this thread locked
@hyperlight: uh... No, I mean the Source. The presence would get this thread locked
The source and the presence are referred to being one and the same, I hope you know.
Even Heavily moreso, when Darkseid met the Spectre.
@nickthedevil: No they are not, they never were.
When the spectre tried to find the mystery of God, found the source, and thought his quest was ended; he even thought the uni friend as an aspect of Michael! I mean, who would know a cosmic entity could be so slow? He later found out the source is not his master, and the source gave him a taste of power which overpowered him.
And when lucifer went to the edge of creation, he found the source, and clearly it was another entity apart from his dad.
And in death of new gods, even though this is another version, the source still was not considered the presence.
Basically, two creation stories. The source is the collective consciousness of every being, and is responsible for creating the gods, some of the physics based powers wielded by superheroes, and the presence is the creator of DC, so the presence is more powerful relatively. The only thing the source can not do is defeat the presence, which is logical.
Anyway, the DONG source was weakened; in that series, it created only the gods, and the ALE is not an equation, but an entity.
@nickthedevil: Here:
The gods and the specter have different masters, but the spectres is THE master of all
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125547/3164807-spectre_1997_58-11.jpg
@nickthedevil: Here:
The gods and the specter have different masters, but the spectres is THE master of all
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125547/3164807-spectre_1997_58-11.jpg
Not sure what I'm looking at here.
@nickthedevil: did you completely forget the first post? Oh, you mean the second. That is not for you, got twisted.
Edit: there IS something there; just noticed. I can kill two stones with one stone killer; this also shows the gods know what the spectre represent, and they are beyond his jurisdiction.
@nickthedevil: I always though the source was another aspect of the presence as well
@nickthedevil: I always though the source was another aspect of the presence as well
Yeah,
Pretty sure anything that was Vertigo was taking place on Earth 13, as said by multiple people, including Dan Didio.
@nickthedevil: @hyperlight: dude, no. not in pre 52. dan D said that about the 52s earth 13. there is no earth 13 in pre (actually there is, but it was never featured).
edit:
i meant the 52 universes 52, not when the universe had an infinite number. post 52.
@van_cere: so if the presence is the supreme being of DC what is the source?
@hyperlight: Post number 9 answers it
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