The Saiyans VS Frieza's Men

Goku(saiyan saga), Vegeta(saiyan saga), Bardock(zenkai from dodoria), King Vegeta, and Turles(pre-fruit)

Goku's Restrictions: KKx4

VS.

Monster Zarbon, Dodoria, Cui & Guldo

I have Turles at a neat 30k and the daiz says Monster Zarbon is at 30k who wins

Saiyans

@uchiha454: how

@julyiscool: Isn't it vegeta after being beaten by Zarbon if so him and Goku beats Zarbon without trouble even in monster form. Bardock and King Vegeta easily take out Dodoria and Cui is a non factor who'll be taken out by Turles.

@uchiha454: sorry forgot to put saiyan saga vegeta

@julyiscool: Ok then now they most likely lose no one can stand up to Zarbon

@uchiha454: Now its more even though

@julyiscool: I guess but Vegeta and Goku are really weak links in this case

Saiyans handily.

Oozaru stomp.

Beata

@uchiha454: no gokus kaio ken x 4 puts him a little bit stronger than zarbon

Vegeta takes cui

King Vegeta and bardock take dodoria

Goku and turles take zarbon

@spidey_jackson: no ooz aru

The Saiyans would likely win since Vegeta knows how to create a fake moon, but if we're restricting them from that, I see no other way to take down Zarbon and Dodoria. Maybe a Spirit Bomb? Assuming King Vegeta has endurance similar to his son's and Bardock, they can probably at least stall the Freeza soldiers long enough for Goku to gather enough energy to take all of them out, or at least two of them and leave the last one injured. I don't know, it's a long shot but I feel like the Saiyans would find a way to win. Power levels aren't everything.

@uchiha454: I meant kaio ken times 4 was stronger a bit than monster zarbon. But the problem is it last a second

Bardo nearly solos

Zarbon solos and blitzes all of them

How do you calc that Vegeta who was beaten by Monster Zarbon after he was healed from fighting and being severely beaten by Goku theoretically when Zarbon was stomping him Vegeta shouldn't have been beneath Kaioken x4 Goku by much if at all at the time.

Bardock solos cause he don't give two *** how strong you are! He also doesn't afraid of anything and conquers planets!

For those saying the saiyans win cus goku goes up to 4x and owns friezas men plz stop. Goku at best has been shown to hold that form for several seconds before giving out and it wreaking his body almost to the point of rupture. The only one being killed by that is maybe cui. dedoria survives and zarbon especially monster zarbon brushes it aside. Remember vegeta was a 18000 power level and walked away beat but functional from that kamehameha.

Okay now the real fight. If vegeta does a fake moon it's the saiyans easly. If not then turles is the only one that can go toe to toe with monster zarbon and he is going to need help probly from bardock. Vegeta and his dad kill cui quickly while goku spars with dedoria. Once cui dies it's over as Vegeta and his father help goku kill dedoria and then they all stomp zarbon. The saiyans win.

To make this fair you really needed to add say guldo. Then it really becomes a close battle with odds on both sides

Kui- Vegeta

Dodoria- Bardock

Zarbon- Turles, King Vegeta, Goku, Vegeta

Saiyans, no losses.

@zill0678: ok I will if it makes it more difficult

@uchiha454: Goku's power level at Kaio ken x 4 would put him at 36,000 which is over Monster Zarbon i say this because Goku durung the sayan saga had a power level at about 9,000 multiply this by 4 and you get 36 K. This means he can go head to head with Zarbon not killing him because of the stress on his body but he can hold his own long enough for the others to be done with Dodoria and Cui!

@julyiscool: Isn't Zarbon's around 32 to 34k if so he should be able to stalemate Goku and only take a few hits Goku used the kaioken to completely overwhelm Vegeta that wouldn't be the case here and once Goku is suffering the ill effects Zarbon will take him out most likely the Z fighters will be finished with Cui but probably not Dodoria by then.

@uchiha454: Except Zarbon won't be able to finally put goku down.

Bardock and King Vegeta are more than enough to take dodoria

Cui and Guldo are non facors and are EASILY taken out by vegeta

once vegeta is done he helps goku

@uchiha454: Firstly this is a bardock after he got a a zenkai from his fight with dodoria meaning he and king vegeta could take dodoria down. KKx4 Goku will go toe to toe with zarbon but eventully will lose power at this time turles jumpsnin and since zarbon is tired a bit turles finishes him

Didn't King Vegeta waive his hand and blow up 3 planets? He should solo iirc.

Well since op is adding guldo I will reassess my battle.

The only one that knows about guldo a time freeze and body freeze is vegeta. And since this is saiyan saga vegeta he has a power level of 18000 instead of the namek pre-zarbon fight power level of 24000 which is what he used to kill cui and the post zarbon fight of 36000 in which he killed guldo with a sneak attack.

Saying vegeta stomps and kills cui is wrong as pre-earth vegeta and cui had the same PL.

Because vegeta is at this power PL I don't think he can kill guldo as easly as he did and that means guldo time freezes and hides so he can spatial freeze someone like he did krillin and gohan.

Because of this I have to say turles has to fight zarbon still. Imo he is the only one who can go toe to toe for any length of time. King vegeta fights dedoria while vegeta fights cui. Vegeta has to let the others expecially goku know about guldos powers as goku is the only one at this point who can sense Kai thus finding a hiding guldo. He should be able to find and kill him assuming he isn't frozzen before hand which is highly likely since guldo is able to freeze Fighters around 10000 PL with ease.

The battle becomes a race of information and how quickly goku can find and kill guldo. But I give it to saiyans 6/10

@zill0678: What about bardock

whoops forgot about him. well i would have to put him with vegeta fighting cui. it is stated that by the end of the movie he had a PL of 10000 witch makes him little better than goku without kk. he helps vegeta survive cui. it still comes down to goku finding guldo and killing him which i would still say is 6/10. g

I'm tented to say Zarbon solo's

@ancient_god: lol I needed a laugh

@uchiha454: I mean i see the saiyans barely winning but it depends on if they can put Zarbon down because if he manages to catch turles and goku off guard and kills the 2 villians stomp

@ancient_god: MAYBE...LOL

Gotta go with Frieza's men. Dodoria and Zarbon pose too much of a threat.