@hedorah10: Yes he used the book, and much prep time of figuring out more things that was not written in the book. As well the help of other sorcerers.
Yes, as I said, he used the Book of Magnus in order to create the spell. Most of it was from the Book, which isn't really surprising given the size of it, but as I pointed out before, he did not know the entire book by touching it. He had to read the book, delve into it, in order to find some of the answers he sought.
Not how it was written in the end of Thousand sons. i can find a scan of the page. Contradicts your view of it.
"Ahriman thrust his hands toward Kaphod, and unleashed a barrage of fire and lightning into the Lore Keeper's body. Such powers were the provenance of the Raptora and Pavoni, but they leapt from Ahriman's fingers as naturally as naturally as if he has been trained by those cults since birth." "Horrified, Ahriman ran down the slopes to rejoin the rest of his warriors."
Page 553 of Thousand Sons. He learn all the cults psy abilities to mastery after touching the book right after Magnus had his Back broken and the TS fled their planet via portal to the Planet of Sorcerers. You cannot deny this.
I never said the book did not give him a power boost nor did I claim it did not make him stronger. (He killed a monster earlier using psy flames as well as using biomancy to cause it to feel intense pain. It was more that it came easier then it used to then he just didn't know he could do it.)
What I said was touching the book did not make him instantly know everything inside of it as you claimed. What you posted doesn't contradict anything I have said.
What book you read? He wrestled with the Rune Priest soul and it took void Sharks to kill the said priest :/
... What? *rubs forehead* You do know he did that to make him suffer right? Killing him is one thing, feeding him to daemons is another. It is very clear he overpowered him very quickly.
"Part of him rejoiced to see his enemy so wholly destroyed," <--- He wanted him to suffer, to see him torn to shreds. It was not a matter of 'I just can't kill him, I am going to use the last of my strength to push him into the monsters,' it was more akin to 'I have beaten you, but I want to see you suffer before you die,' hell, Ahriman force feeds the Runepriest information about the traitor Horus before he kills him.
Are... you reading the quotes or just seeing what you want to see?
Wow, just wow. In the begining of the book Ahriman was upset by the waning of his Cabals abilities. the Novel started this way :/
What are you talking about?
my point is ahriman is now a Alpha and beta are dime a dozen in 40k lore.
Start naming. Only beta psyker I have ever seen displayed in lore was Agun from Gaunts Ghost.
Almost all the ones in Eisenhorn are Delta or below. There is one Alpha in Eisenhorn who can read the mind of every single being on a hive world (Trillions of people) at the same time.
Gammas are a dime a dozen. Deltas are rare. Betas are incredibly rare. Alphas don't happen.
He rivals Magnus and Greater Deamon in terms of knoweldge and magical gear. he single handily nearly took down the Harliquins gaurding the Black library, more than any Greater Demon or Sorceror of Chaos ever shown to do. Even Magnus needed a complex ritual and tons of extra power to break through a webway. Ahriman by himself cracked it to get at the Black library and then almost beaten down its defenders the Eldar.
Ahriman has broken into the webway twice, by the way.
No, Magnus needed the ritual to break the protective wardings on the palace in Terra. That is what caused the Emperor's project to break.
.... What? It does not say he rivals Magnus in knowledge, it said he rivals Magnus in artifacts and that he rivals Greater Daemons in knowledge. Two different categories.
I love Ahriman as much as the next Thousand Son fan, but you need to wheel back the wank.
Ahriman accomplishments > Greater Deamons of Slannesh or Tzeentch of any kind.
Why did you name Slaanesh daemons? That makes no sense. It says he rivals the daemons of his patron, that is Tzeentch by the way, not Slaanesh.
Seriously, your Ahriman wank, pull it back before you hurt yourself.
Thats not Time Freezing, to me that reads like slowing time down to a degree that a second feels like a hour. nowhere near Speed of Light to be honest in time perspective.
That is time stopping. You can try and read it anyway you want, it out right stats the world stilled. It did not slow. It froze completely.
prove to me its not Warp Time? Read the description of Warp time. read the definition. It has nothing to do with bubbles as you claim :/ So unless you have proof of the slowing of time Magnus did by a different name, it might as well be the defined Warp Time.
Warptime: "The Psyker surrounds himselfwith a dimensional instability." Jesus mate, read it. He puts himself into a little bubble where time moves differently allowing him to better view and react to the world around him. That is how Warptime works.
Magnus did not do this. Magnus slowed time, itself. He did not surround himself in an instability, there was no warp lights, not dimensional changes, he just changed time itself.
It does not strike me you read them at all, or the Codexes. Now I see you just have different interpretations of the novels. So I guess we will agree to disagree as you seem to have a different take on events.
It doesn't strike me that you comprehend what you read. More like you browse it, get an idea of what you think it is, and then that is it.
I am an Ork player, but I am also an avid fan of the Thousand Sons, you may continue to try and insult my knowledge on the subject by insinuating I have not read the source material, but you would be very wrong.
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