Technically all he "needs" to kill Frank is his bare hands. And my whole point in replying in this thread was that the OP is horribly flawed.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:It also says his plans were ruined and most of his gear was destroyed, so...@Ferro Vida said:
@Ancient_0f_Days: And there is no evidence that he has it here. The OP even says that all of Batman's plans were ruined.The OP also states batman has everything he needs to kill frank castle. I guess he speed blitzes with the insider suit and kills frank instantly.
He states his plans were ruined and then right after that states batman has everything he needs to kill frank. I guess he should of thought that one through better. The best tech frank has shown isn't nothing compared to superman fighting armor and boom tube gauntlets/insider suit. The list goes on and on.
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Frank has actually been shown to posses all the gear that me and various other debators have mentioned (the 'Galactus gun' was a joke).
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@Kinasin_ said:
He states his plans were ruined and then right after that states batman has everything he needs to kill frank. I guess he should of thought that one through better. The best tech frank has shown isn't nothing compared to superman fighting armor and boom tube gauntlets/insider suit. The list goes on and on.
Considering a batarang could kill someone, who is to say that he has nothing more than a single batarang?
Who's to say the same for frank. If he meant frank has the best tech he has ever had and batman only has one batarang then this thread would of been closed from the get go. Also it would of been clowned on for being a complete fanboy setup for frank to get a W/Spite match of the century.
I say again, the whole reason I replied.@Erik said:
@Kinasin_ said:
He states his plans were ruined and then right after that states batman has everything he needs to kill frank. I guess he should of thought that one through better. The best tech frank has shown isn't nothing compared to superman fighting armor and boom tube gauntlets/insider suit. The list goes on and on.
Considering a batarang could kill someone, who is to say that he has nothing more than a single batarang?
Who's to say the same for frank. If he meant frank has the best tech he has ever had and batman only has one batarang then this thread would of been closed from the get go. Also it would of been clowned on for being a complete fanboy setup for frank to get a W/Spite match of the century.
@Ferro Vida: @ComicStooge: you have got to be joking ..... (-_-) ..... I don't have to say in the OP that when Wonder Woman goes into battle that he has her Tiara and Aegis Bracers on .... I don't have to elaborate on an Iron Man thread that Tony has his suit on ....... this is Standard equipment .... if anyone is being unfair as far as the OP goes it's you two ... Bruce might as well have been in a bath robe straight out the Bat-Shower when the cave blows up (c)'_'(c) .... you don't have to say Batman has his utility belt on .... his plans aren't the belt .... he's still got that .... most of his gadgets arent in the belt specifically .... at least not the game enders ...... those get destroyed since "most" of the gadgets and suits are gone now ... he literally has exactly what he needs on hand, in the standard suit and utility belt to take Frank down .... he doesn't need a plan for what he already has on him .... he plans as he goes .... thats not the case I'm trying to make for him .... but you two just try to discount every argument made for Bats with "oh, that probably got destroyed" , "the OP didn't say he has that" , the OP might as well said Bruce was in mid coitus while his cave was getting bombed according to you guys ....... (>_>)
My whole argument is that the fight might as well be counted as invalid because of how gosh darn biased it is. If you are JUST realizing that now then I am sorry for not being more direct.@Ferro Vida: @ComicStooge: you have got to be joking ..... (-_-) ..... I don't have to say in the OP that when Wonder Woman goes into battle that he has her Tiara and Aegis Bracers on .... I don't have to elaborate on an Iron Man thread that Tony has his suit on ....... this is Standard equipment .... if anyone is being unfair as far as the OP goes it's you two ... Bruce might as well have been in a bath robe straight out the Bat-Shower when the cave blows up (c)'_'(c) .... you don't have to say Batman has his utility belt on .... his plans aren't the belt .... he's still got that .... most of his gadgets arent in the belt specifically .... at least not the game enders ...... those get destroyed since "most" of the gadgets and suits are gone now ... he literally has exactly what he needs on hand, in the standard suit and utility belt to take Frank down .... he doesn't need a plan for what he already has on him .... he plans as he goes .... thats not the case I'm trying to make for him .... but you two just try to discount every argument made for Bats with "oh, that probably got destroyed" , "the OP didn't say he has that" , the OP might as well said Bruce was in mid coitus while his cave was getting bombed according to you guys ....... (>_>)
You don't say.The guy who made this thread already admitted to being a punisher fanboy.
If you realized the thread was biased to begin with then why didn't you just flag the OP and leave it RATHER then arguing with everyone. There are unbiased Batman vs. Punisher threads if you really want to do that.
@Ferro Vida: I already realized that .... but according to arguments made on previous pages .... this is still an arguable thread .... only you two seem to think other wise ....
@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:You don't say. If you realized the thread was biased to begin with then why didn't you just flag the OP and leave it RATHER then arguing with everyone. There are unbiased Batman vs. Punisher threads if you really want to do that.The guy who made this thread already admitted to being a punisher fanboy.
Because he worded the match in such way that at the end he gave them both what they need to kill each other. If he would of tried pulling what Eric stated, and saying batman only had a batarang while punisher get's the most unholy armory the gods have ever seen then I would of flagged it.
@Ferro Vida said:
@Ancient_0f_Days: If you read through the OP carefully then it's pretty clear that this thread is meant to be a huge stomp in Punisher's favour.
matchesmalone21 and Kinasin gave proof of why Batman wins and so did I in the beginning ....... everyone then was backing Batman based on that proof regardless of the thread makers biased intentions .... he left the thread because batman still had a way to win ...
He says that most of Bruce's gear is ruined, and that his plans are too. He doesn't specify what, thus making it impossible to argue that Batman has anything of use here. That doesn't seem like a problem? Batman is capable of killing with his bare hands, so leaving him with just that means that he does have what he needs to kill the Punisher. That would be in line with the argument that he has no useful tech left.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:You don't say. If you realized the thread was biased to begin with then why didn't you just flag the OP and leave it RATHER then arguing with everyone. There are unbiased Batman vs. Punisher threads if you really want to do that.The guy who made this thread already admitted to being a punisher fanboy.
Because he worded the match in such way that at the end he gave them both what they need to kill each other. If he would of tried pulling what Eric stated, and saying batman only had a batarang while punisher get's the most unholy armory the gods have ever seen then I would of flagged it.
@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:He says that most of Bruce's gear is ruined, and that his plans are too. He doesn't specify what, thus making it impossible to argue that Batman has anything of use here. That doesn't seem like a problem? Batman is capable of killing with his bare hands, so leaving him with just that means that he does have what he needs to kill the Punisher. That would be in line with the argument that he has no useful tech left.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:You don't say. If you realized the thread was biased to begin with then why didn't you just flag the OP and leave it RATHER then arguing with everyone. There are unbiased Batman vs. Punisher threads if you really want to do that.The guy who made this thread already admitted to being a punisher fanboy.
Because he worded the match in such way that at the end he gave them both what they need to kill each other. If he would of tried pulling what Eric stated, and saying batman only had a batarang while punisher get's the most unholy armory the gods have ever seen then I would of flagged it.
He stated half the batcave was destroyed and then at the end stated batman and punisher both have what they need to kill each other. He didn't state Punisher has some weapon he hasn't used in numerous years at his disposal. He stated at the end they both would still have what they need to kill each other.
And since you treat Batman as a God, I can only conclude that Frank would need a weapon that could kill a God.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:He says that most of Bruce's gear is ruined, and that his plans are too. He doesn't specify what, thus making it impossible to argue that Batman has anything of use here. That doesn't seem like a problem? Batman is capable of killing with his bare hands, so leaving him with just that means that he does have what he needs to kill the Punisher. That would be in line with the argument that he has no useful tech left.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:You don't say. If you realized the thread was biased to begin with then why didn't you just flag the OP and leave it RATHER then arguing with everyone. There are unbiased Batman vs. Punisher threads if you really want to do that.The guy who made this thread already admitted to being a punisher fanboy.
Because he worded the match in such way that at the end he gave them both what they need to kill each other. If he would of tried pulling what Eric stated, and saying batman only had a batarang while punisher get's the most unholy armory the gods have ever seen then I would of flagged it.
He stated half the batcave was destroyed and then at the end stated batman and punisher both have what they need to kill each other. He didn't state Punisher has some weapon he hasn't used in numerous years at his disposal. He stated at the end they both would still have what they need to kill each other.
@Ancient_0f_Days said:
They really can't do that, because they literally have no way of proving what tech would or would not survive.@Ferro Vida said:
@Ancient_0f_Days: If you read through the OP carefully then it's pretty clear that this thread is meant to be a huge stomp in Punisher's favour.matchesmalone21 and Kinasin gave proof of why Batman wins and so did I in the beginning ....... everyone then was backing Batman based on that proof regardless of the thread makers biased intentions .... he left the thread because batman still had a way to win ...
I took that as they both have what they need to kill each other on equal grounds. If you thought it was setup for frank to have superior weapons then you could of pm'ed a moderator instead of hopping in and verbosely shouting batman dies. Everyone seemed to take it as he was still trying to set it up to be fair in the end. Otherwise I'm sure someone else would of flagged it and no one would of commented in it.
@Ferro Vida said:
They really can't do that, because they literally have no way of proving what tech would or would not survive.
hmm ... how about the tech AROUND HIS WAIST ........... and his batsuit didn't just poof into thin air as soon as the bomb dropped .... we have to assume he still has these at least since regardless of the situation.... especially if unspecified .... he ALWAYS has these things on .....
@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:And since you treat Batman as a God, I can only conclude that Frank would need a weapon that could kill a God.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:He says that most of Bruce's gear is ruined, and that his plans are too. He doesn't specify what, thus making it impossible to argue that Batman has anything of use here. That doesn't seem like a problem? Batman is capable of killing with his bare hands, so leaving him with just that means that he does have what he needs to kill the Punisher. That would be in line with the argument that he has no useful tech left.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:You don't say. If you realized the thread was biased to begin with then why didn't you just flag the OP and leave it RATHER then arguing with everyone. There are unbiased Batman vs. Punisher threads if you really want to do that.The guy who made this thread already admitted to being a punisher fanboy.
Because he worded the match in such way that at the end he gave them both what they need to kill each other. If he would of tried pulling what Eric stated, and saying batman only had a batarang while punisher get's the most unholy armory the gods have ever seen then I would of flagged it.
He stated half the batcave was destroyed and then at the end stated batman and punisher both have what they need to kill each other. He didn't state Punisher has some weapon he hasn't used in numerous years at his disposal. He stated at the end they both would still have what they need to kill each other.
@Ancient_0f_Days said:They really can't do that, because they literally have no way of proving what tech would or would not survive.@Ferro Vida said:
@Ancient_0f_Days: If you read through the OP carefully then it's pretty clear that this thread is meant to be a huge stomp in Punisher's favour.matchesmalone21 and Kinasin gave proof of why Batman wins and so did I in the beginning ....... everyone then was backing Batman based on that proof regardless of the thread makers biased intentions .... he left the thread because batman still had a way to win ...
More like the vast majority of people in this thread are knowledgeable enough to know frank doesn't stand a chance in hell. If you felt the need to crusade for frank without having a clue about how much Batman is superior to frank then that is on you. Not me bud.
Oh for....@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:And since you treat Batman as a God, I can only conclude that Frank would need a weapon that could kill a God.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:He says that most of Bruce's gear is ruined, and that his plans are too. He doesn't specify what, thus making it impossible to argue that Batman has anything of use here. That doesn't seem like a problem? Batman is capable of killing with his bare hands, so leaving him with just that means that he does have what he needs to kill the Punisher. That would be in line with the argument that he has no useful tech left.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:You don't say. If you realized the thread was biased to begin with then why didn't you just flag the OP and leave it RATHER then arguing with everyone. There are unbiased Batman vs. Punisher threads if you really want to do that.The guy who made this thread already admitted to being a punisher fanboy.
Because he worded the match in such way that at the end he gave them both what they need to kill each other. If he would of tried pulling what Eric stated, and saying batman only had a batarang while punisher get's the most unholy armory the gods have ever seen then I would of flagged it.
He stated half the batcave was destroyed and then at the end stated batman and punisher both have what they need to kill each other. He didn't state Punisher has some weapon he hasn't used in numerous years at his disposal. He stated at the end they both would still have what they need to kill each other.
@Ancient_0f_Days said:They really can't do that, because they literally have no way of proving what tech would or would not survive.@Ferro Vida said:
@Ancient_0f_Days: If you read through the OP carefully then it's pretty clear that this thread is meant to be a huge stomp in Punisher's favour.matchesmalone21 and Kinasin gave proof of why Batman wins and so did I in the beginning ....... everyone then was backing Batman based on that proof regardless of the thread makers biased intentions .... he left the thread because batman still had a way to win ...
More like the vast majority of people in this thread are knowledgeable enough to know frank doesn't stand a chance in hell. If you felt the need to crusade for frank without having a clue about how much Batman is superior to frank then that is on you. Not me bud.
@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_: Yet again, and I can't seem to stress this point enough, my whole point in responding was to point out how unfair this set up is. I said Batman would lose because this vague set up is stacked against him. Are we clear now?WHY YOU NO READ!?
@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:Oh for....@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:And since you treat Batman as a God, I can only conclude that Frank would need a weapon that could kill a God.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:He says that most of Bruce's gear is ruined, and that his plans are too. He doesn't specify what, thus making it impossible to argue that Batman has anything of use here. That doesn't seem like a problem? Batman is capable of killing with his bare hands, so leaving him with just that means that he does have what he needs to kill the Punisher. That would be in line with the argument that he has no useful tech left.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:You don't say. If you realized the thread was biased to begin with then why didn't you just flag the OP and leave it RATHER then arguing with everyone. There are unbiased Batman vs. Punisher threads if you really want to do that.The guy who made this thread already admitted to being a punisher fanboy.
Because he worded the match in such way that at the end he gave them both what they need to kill each other. If he would of tried pulling what Eric stated, and saying batman only had a batarang while punisher get's the most unholy armory the gods have ever seen then I would of flagged it.
He stated half the batcave was destroyed and then at the end stated batman and punisher both have what they need to kill each other. He didn't state Punisher has some weapon he hasn't used in numerous years at his disposal. He stated at the end they both would still have what they need to kill each other.
@Ancient_0f_Days said:They really can't do that, because they literally have no way of proving what tech would or would not survive.@Ferro Vida said:
@Ancient_0f_Days: If you read through the OP carefully then it's pretty clear that this thread is meant to be a huge stomp in Punisher's favour.matchesmalone21 and Kinasin gave proof of why Batman wins and so did I in the beginning ....... everyone then was backing Batman based on that proof regardless of the thread makers biased intentions .... he left the thread because batman still had a way to win ...
More like the vast majority of people in this thread are knowledgeable enough to know frank doesn't stand a chance in hell. If you felt the need to crusade for frank without having a clue about how much Batman is superior to frank then that is on you. Not me bud.
@Ferro Vida said:@Kinasin_: Yet again, and I can't seem to stress this point enough, my whole point in responding was to point out how unfair this set up is. I said Batman would lose because this vague set up is stacked against him. Are we clear now?WHY YOU NO READ!?
It's not stacked against him. That's where the punisher fanboy failed because he made Bruce bloodlusted and gave him homefield advantage along with enough reason to do whatever it takes to kill frank while still setting batman up to have whatever he needs at his disposal to do it. Batman has numerous batcaves and escape routes.
@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:Oh for....@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:And since you treat Batman as a God, I can only conclude that Frank would need a weapon that could kill a God.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:He says that most of Bruce's gear is ruined, and that his plans are too. He doesn't specify what, thus making it impossible to argue that Batman has anything of use here. That doesn't seem like a problem? Batman is capable of killing with his bare hands, so leaving him with just that means that he does have what he needs to kill the Punisher. That would be in line with the argument that he has no useful tech left.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:You don't say. If you realized the thread was biased to begin with then why didn't you just flag the OP and leave it RATHER then arguing with everyone. There are unbiased Batman vs. Punisher threads if you really want to do that.The guy who made this thread already admitted to being a punisher fanboy.
Because he worded the match in such way that at the end he gave them both what they need to kill each other. If he would of tried pulling what Eric stated, and saying batman only had a batarang while punisher get's the most unholy armory the gods have ever seen then I would of flagged it.
He stated half the batcave was destroyed and then at the end stated batman and punisher both have what they need to kill each other. He didn't state Punisher has some weapon he hasn't used in numerous years at his disposal. He stated at the end they both would still have what they need to kill each other.
@Ancient_0f_Days said:They really can't do that, because they literally have no way of proving what tech would or would not survive.@Ferro Vida said:
@Ancient_0f_Days: If you read through the OP carefully then it's pretty clear that this thread is meant to be a huge stomp in Punisher's favour.matchesmalone21 and Kinasin gave proof of why Batman wins and so did I in the beginning ....... everyone then was backing Batman based on that proof regardless of the thread makers biased intentions .... he left the thread because batman still had a way to win ...
More like the vast majority of people in this thread are knowledgeable enough to know frank doesn't stand a chance in hell. If you felt the need to crusade for frank without having a clue about how much Batman is superior to frank then that is on you. Not me bud.
@Ferro Vida said:@Kinasin_: Yet again, and I can't seem to stress this point enough, my whole point in responding was to point out how unfair this set up is. I said Batman would lose because this vague set up is stacked against him. Are we clear now?WHY YOU NO READ!?It's not stacked against him. That's where the punisher fanboy failed because he made Bruce bloodlusted and gave him homefield advantage along with enough reason to do whatever it takes to kill frank while still setting batman up to have whatever he needs at his disposal to do it. Batman has numerous batcaves and escape routes.
destroys the Batmobile, and most of his gadgets and suits, and also ruins Batman's plan.
You are incorrect.
@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:Oh for....@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:And since you treat Batman as a God, I can only conclude that Frank would need a weapon that could kill a God.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:He says that most of Bruce's gear is ruined, and that his plans are too. He doesn't specify what, thus making it impossible to argue that Batman has anything of use here. That doesn't seem like a problem? Batman is capable of killing with his bare hands, so leaving him with just that means that he does have what he needs to kill the Punisher. That would be in line with the argument that he has no useful tech left.@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_ said:You don't say. If you realized the thread was biased to begin with then why didn't you just flag the OP and leave it RATHER then arguing with everyone. There are unbiased Batman vs. Punisher threads if you really want to do that.The guy who made this thread already admitted to being a punisher fanboy.
Because he worded the match in such way that at the end he gave them both what they need to kill each other. If he would of tried pulling what Eric stated, and saying batman only had a batarang while punisher get's the most unholy armory the gods have ever seen then I would of flagged it.
He stated half the batcave was destroyed and then at the end stated batman and punisher both have what they need to kill each other. He didn't state Punisher has some weapon he hasn't used in numerous years at his disposal. He stated at the end they both would still have what they need to kill each other.
@Ancient_0f_Days said:They really can't do that, because they literally have no way of proving what tech would or would not survive.@Ferro Vida said:
@Ancient_0f_Days: If you read through the OP carefully then it's pretty clear that this thread is meant to be a huge stomp in Punisher's favour.matchesmalone21 and Kinasin gave proof of why Batman wins and so did I in the beginning ....... everyone then was backing Batman based on that proof regardless of the thread makers biased intentions .... he left the thread because batman still had a way to win ...
More like the vast majority of people in this thread are knowledgeable enough to know frank doesn't stand a chance in hell. If you felt the need to crusade for frank without having a clue about how much Batman is superior to frank then that is on you. Not me bud.
@Ferro Vida said:@Kinasin_: Yet again, and I can't seem to stress this point enough, my whole point in responding was to point out how unfair this set up is. I said Batman would lose because this vague set up is stacked against him. Are we clear now?WHY YOU NO READ!?It's not stacked against him. That's where the punisher fanboy failed because he made Bruce bloodlusted and gave him homefield advantage along with enough reason to do whatever it takes to kill frank while still setting batman up to have whatever he needs at his disposal to do it. Batman has numerous batcaves and escape routes.
You are incorrect.destroys the Batmobile, and most of his gadgets and suits, and also ruins Batman's plan.
Majority says otherwise.
@Ferro Vida said:
@Kinasin_: Majority voted George W. Bush into office twice. Doesn't make you right.
Majority voted for Al Gore, but then the courts gave it to George W. Bush. But that's a whole other and much messier debate.
@Kinasin_ said:
@Erik said:
@Kinasin_ said:
He states his plans were ruined and then right after that states batman has everything he needs to kill frank. I guess he should of thought that one through better. The best tech frank has shown isn't nothing compared to superman fighting armor and boom tube gauntlets/insider suit. The list goes on and on.
Considering a batarang could kill someone, who is to say that he has nothing more than a single batarang?
Who's to say the same for frank. If he meant frank has the best tech he has ever had and batman only has one batarang then this thread would of been closed from the get go. Also it would of been clowned on for being a complete fanboy setup for frank to get a W/Spite match of the century.
Because only a fool would think that. Frank had 3 weeks to prepare and his plan came out on top. How likely is it that in that in the explosion he set, Frank also decided it would be a great idea to strap all his guns to the explosives and melt down all his combat knives before meeting up with Batman?
Batman still wins by way of casual exploding batarang ..... to Frank's face ........oh wait ... that went down with the rest of the cave too ..... batman lost both his arms as well .... and a leg ...... Frank showed up in the Destroyer Armor ..... cuz according to the OP we can't tell what kind of tech survived .... and what didn't ... so we have to ASSUME that Bruce Wayne is a vegetable without any tech..... and Frank became a God in 3 weeks .......
basically this is what Ferro is saying ....
i feel like there is too much unknown. I want to say Frank will win given the circumstances. batman is dangerous with prep. without prep i think Frank is more dangerous. a bloodlust batman is actually less scary or threatening than a calm and well prepared batman. brawling like a pissed off regular dude is not his style and with gear missing thats what he would be reduced to. brawling loses to bullets every time.
@IKnowEverything said:
i feel like there is too much unknown. I want to say Frank will win given the circumstances. batman is dangerous with prep. without prep i think Frank is more dangerous. a bloodlust batman is actually less scary or threatening than a calm and well prepared batman. brawling like a pissed off regular dude is not his style and with gear missing thats what he would be reduced to. brawling loses to bullets every time.
bullet proof armor and cowl ... win every time ... blood lusted doesn't mean rabid and crazy stupid .... it means without morals ...... angry batman stays calm and just tortures his victims worse ...... this one is willing to kill ...... which means he isn't a stupid brawler like you suggest .... he has over 463 ways to incapacitate an enemy without drawing a single drop of blood from them .... here he can use the other few hundred ways to draw massive amounts of blood from someone .... seriously people ... learn what blood lusted means ...
Who's to say Castle wouldn't explode the Batcave remotely and use a Hi-powered, Long-range rifle to shoot at Batman with, from a mile away? Sounds like something he'd do, especially since he's an expert marksman, and sniper. I mean what kind of idiot would run into a cave after its been blown to kingdom come and is on fire?
No, the bolded bit is what I was saying. If you want to resort to libel as a debate tactic then please do so. I won't change that this is a biased thread.Batman still wins by way of casual exploding batarang ..... to Frank's face ........oh wait ... that went down with the rest of the cave too ..... batman lost both his arms as well .... and a leg ...... Frank showed up in the Destroyer Armor ..... cuz according to the OP we can't tell what kind of tech survived .... and what didn't ... so we have to ASSUME that Bruce Wayne is a vegetable without any tech..... and Frank became a God in 3 weeks .......
basically this is what Ferro is saying ....
@XMen1963 said:
Who's to say Castle wouldn't explode the Batcave remotely and use a Hi-powered, Long-range rifle to shoot at Batman with, from a mile away? Sounds like something he'd do, especially since he's an expert marksman, and sniper. I mean what kind of idiot would run into a cave after its been blown to kingdom come and is on fire?
I don't know ... why didn't you say that Frank gets to blow the place up a second time in the OP ... you made it after all .. (-'_'-)
i feel like there is too much unknown. I want to say Frank will win given the circumstances. batman is dangerous with prep. without prep i think Frank is more dangerous. a bloodlust batman is actually less scary or threatening than a calm and well prepared batman. brawling like a pissed off regular dude is not his style and with gear missing thats what he would be reduced to. brawling loses to bullets every time.
This is why I gave it to Batman in the End. Batman has Typically btter Gear and options that you can endlessly debate what hes carrying. We all know what Punisher uses and that is real world Guns and Explosives. So because there is so much crazy Gear Batman has shown to carry on him, I cant argue that Punisher Real World Gear will get the better of him.
The biggest Advantage is Punisher still has Real World Gear he uses like Sniper Rifles, Armour Piercing Rounds, Semtex/C-4/Claymores, NVGs, Infa Red, Heat Vison Goggles, Body Armour, 203 Gernade Launcher on a M-16 with Scope, and of course his very impressive H2H (he match DD, Moonknight, Spidey, and Wolvie) lets me think that Punisher with Prep against Batman with no Prep SHOULD win.
But Batman has too many Unknowns here.
@Erik said:
@Kinasin_ said:
@Erik said:
@Kinasin_ said:
He states his plans were ruined and then right after that states batman has everything he needs to kill frank. I guess he should of thought that one through better. The best tech frank has shown isn't nothing compared to superman fighting armor and boom tube gauntlets/insider suit. The list goes on and on.
Considering a batarang could kill someone, who is to say that he has nothing more than a single batarang?
Who's to say the same for frank. If he meant frank has the best tech he has ever had and batman only has one batarang then this thread would of been closed from the get go. Also it would of been clowned on for being a complete fanboy setup for frank to get a W/Spite match of the century.
Because only a fool would think that. Frank had 3 weeks to prepare and his plan came out on top. How likely is it that in that in the explosion he set, Frank also decided it would be a great idea to strap all his guns to the explosives and melt down all his combat knives before meeting up with Batman?
Makes no difference because the OP gave Batman everything he needed to kill frank at the end of his post. Only a fool would think that just because frank has time to get more guns he is going to beat a bloodlusted batman on his own turf who is still stated to have everything he needs to kill frank.
@Erik said:
Frank wins.
No he dies horribly.
@ReVamp said:
@Erik: Are you going under the OP assumption that Frank has prep and Batman doesn't?
That and the fact that Batman has no gear, no plan and has just been through an explosion powerful enough to destroy the building he was just in.
@Kinasin_ said:
@Erik said:
@Kinasin_:
Wrong as usual.
Typical reply from someone without an argument.
Keep it up. The more evidence of trolling I can get from you, the stronger my argument for your ban will be.
@Erik said:
@Kinasin_ said:
@Erik said:
@Kinasin_:
Wrong as usual.
Typical reply from someone without an argument.
Keep it up. The more evidence of trolling I can get from you, the stronger my argument for your ban will be.
You have no evidence to amass. You stating, "wrong as usual" is considered being very rude though.
@Erik said:
@ReVamp said:
@Erik: Are you going under the OP assumption that Frank has prep and Batman doesn't?
That and the fact that Batman has no gear, no plan and has just been through an explosion powerful enough to destroy the building he was just in.
OP is confusing as f*ck.
It says he loses his plan, and then says they each "have all they need to kill each other". I'm assuming that he's referring to gear, because Batman can kill with anything.
@Ferro Vida said:
@Ancient_0f_Days said:No, the bolded bit is what I was saying. If you want to resort to libel as a debate tactic then please do so. I won't change that this is a biased thread.Batman still wins by way of casual exploding batarang ..... to Frank's face ........oh wait ... that went down with the rest of the cave too ..... batman lost both his arms as well .... and a leg ...... Frank showed up in the Destroyer Armor ..... cuz according to the OP we can't tell what kind of tech survived .... and what didn't ... so we have to ASSUME that Bruce Wayne is a vegetable without any tech..... and Frank became a God in 3 weeks .......
basically this is what Ferro is saying ....
Yea but it also says they have everything they need to kill one another...To be honest when I commented I didn't read the op but reading it now the op seems to have contradicted itself.
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