The Prototypes vs Superman

Um no it isn't what I think. It is a simple physics matter, Superman moves so much faster than them they will be perceived as not even moving. If you were up to date as you say you are you would understand that the prototypes don't need to stand still and wait to be atomized. They won't know what is going on before he atomizes them.

@deaditegonzo: I don't know Prototype but just from reading his part of the debate it has me convinced of what he's doing. Don't waste anymore of your time on this.

It's Sunday. Give the Mods a break. :p

@man_of_miracles: it is best if we stop here, i was mostly trying to make you understand their inability to die.I didn't say Superman can't win.Also you must completeley erase them without leftovers in order to permanently kill them, otherwise they reform, thats the virus.

@patrat18: There is no spite. They can heal from lost arms and legs in seconds. Meaning they got the healing factor of Wolverine and wolvie beaten hulk once, he is as durable as supes

@leonkarlen123: Wolverine did not win from his healing factor he won from his unbreakable claws something neither alex nor heller has. Not to mention when did wolvie win aside from one case where he shanked hulk in the brain

@kal_el_summers: techniqually the earth weighs nothing in space

@bronze_surfer: Alex and James claws has never broke either. Even they have cut metal in half with ease.

Right which he will be able to do with heat vision as he did in the scan on page 2.

1st probability; superman tries to play with them and slaps them around then 1 sneaks behind him and consumes

2nd probability; superman waste them with heat vision

3rd probability; superman turns them to punching bag[if they will last for a minute..lol]

4th probability; superman decides to stomp because he has to go home to see martha kent

Superman isn't going down or even gonna be really hurt by either of them.

But fears for heat vision. because so far no one has posted anything to suggest Superman could actually kill them either.

Alex survives being nuked out of existence he is maybe a couple drops of blood that literally re constitute themselves.

Superman might be able to finish them with heat vision but someone needs to post feats. because even with Superman's strength even if he liquefys them with each punch that's not gonna do any long term damage. He needs to melt them down on a molecular level with his heat vision to have any hope of actually stopping the virus. All though like I said there is literally nothing they can do to Superman.

@leonkarlen123: There healing factor is finite, Mercer was only able to regenerate his arms so often because of the stored biomass from all the infected he had absorbed just before the fight and allowed Heller with his superior skill to beat him to beat him by ripping him apart. He also didn't recover from being caught in the tail end of a nuke until he absorbed more mass from the crow.

Also freeze breath.

And I never said he bench-pressed the actual Earth. lukehero posted the scan on the second page.

where is it ever stated that Superman hits the with the force of 2,000 nukes? cause this seems like a ridiculous claim.

and also it depends completely on the type of Nuclear weapon.

are these 2,000 0.3 kiloton tactile nukes in which case meh....

or

is this 2,000 50 Megaton Zhar bombs? in which case the earth is 100% annihilated.

breaking the earth free of the gravitational pull of the earth would require equal force. and it actually does have weight in space because it's being acted on by the suns gravitational field.

@leonkarlen123: Wolvies claws are adamantium and have resisted thor level strength. And Heller cut mercers bones. Irelevent since they are not wolverine and there claws are not the same.

Like I said that is by game mechanics which based around gameplay is not applicable and what about the cutscenes? Didn`t the same Alex who like you say has been put to the test of tanking bullets but failing, survive a well-sized nuke with a destructive radius and didn`t he destroy city sized monsters who indeed tank military fire? I know and my point is that he doesn`t stand a chance against either of them their stats are like night and day there is no comparison, Spiderman, Deadpool, Punisher, Moon Knight and Iron Fist wouldn`t even stand a chance yet these guys have the potential to mop the floor with Wolverine in an actual fight. How would he win if he can`t put them down by the conditions of death or K.O? He can`t even K.O them he could only stall and prevent them from becoming stronger to a degree but I`m referring to the conditions of absolute death and the gamma radiation could be a problem but Hulk`s not getting around them being able to spread out their virus on a large city wide scale. However, that is a fight that is irrelevant anyway to the conditions of this fight.

This is New 52 Superman and I`m aware of all of his feats which includes his comparison to that of H`el. This is not Pre 52 or Pre Crisis that is a different story and this Superman would probably underestimate them before becoming bloodlust just like he has against his enemies so far. I agree that Superman would win and probably even have the majority but I think the Prototypes are being lowballed here how is Superman going to be able to determine their location once they consume and easily find cohesion with that of the virus and chaos that is running amongst the entire city of New York? How is Superman going to deal with the virus he`s in character he would want to try to intervene with the virus that is affecting innocent citizens and if Alex as well as Heller merge, I doubt Superman would be able to stop a planetary affecting virus.

@dextersinister: Since the city has full of biomass like zombies everywhere he can regenerate faster than he did by the crow. Also didn't new52 lose his freeze breath? Even so he could break it

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Alex regenerate because of a crow?

@leonkarlen123: Of course not it's iconic.

and lol, no they cannot

@leonkarlen123: Superman could literally annihilate each individual virus with extremely focused heat vision/super speed/microscopic x-ray vision...

Here's an interesting one. An in character Superman could even cure the virus. He learned heart surgery in five minutes in the New 52. He studies all the literature on the Prototype virus and synthesizes a cure. Another in an infinite list of ways Superman wins easily in a spite stomp.

He was then sued for practicing medicine without a license :P

@thecheesestabber: Haha. Also, i dont remember him washing his hands before using his diamond hard nail as a scalpel. Lois will eventually get a staph infection and die.

@deaditegonzo: So in a huge plot twist The Prototypes were just saying they killed Lis but when they know Supermansd beaten they tell him what he actally did to Lois and destroy him mentally :P

@deaditegonzo: he can't cure it lol, you think there are books called how to cure the virus?lol.They created something but it only slowed him down, the virus isn't like heart surgery or anything similar you can't learn how to cure it.If you played it you wouldn't say he can cure it, there are no books, there is nothing, just some papers which won't give a cure.

I wasnt saying he would read a book that gave him the cure, I am saying he would read all the research about how the virus was created and synthesize a cure from that. Scientist do this all the time, but Superman's mind is infinitely faster than a scientists, and as shown in the H'El on Earth arc, he has access to alien technology capable of ridiculous things (like destroying a solar system).

An interesting tactic would be creating a new infection, a bacteria, that eats the viral cells. Or, as scientists are trying to cure cancer, a modified version of AIDs that kills infected cells. Or how about nanobots that literally go in and eradicate the virus individually. In these ways, the likes of Batman or Lex Luthor could easily solo.

@deaditegonzo: i know but they failed but yeah you can counter but you need full info which doesn't exist and prep which makes it unfair.Besides the virus adapts/changes.

@deaditegonzo: i know i was talking Batman, Lex, Reed etc they need prep.Im out.

It said so right here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-fL8zopddI

It's called science. Then there's the shadow moon feat which far outshines anything in the Prototype universe. Also, math has been done, it would take 16,000 Tsar Bombas, which is the most powerful nuclear bomb to date, to destroy the Earth completely.

Superman owns them.

Invulnerability: His body is nigh-invulnerable due to his superhumanly dense cellular and anatomical structure as well as his radiating bioelectrical aura. Superman is under some circumstances resistant or immune to different forms and levels of lacerations, blunt force trauma, energy-based assaults, falls from great heights, explosions, the cold void of space, toxins and all known diseases on Earth.

Yes, he is immune. Where are you getting your Superman information (or lack thereof)?

@originalgl_alan: ''all known diseases on Earth.'' The Mercer virus was unknown first but became larger and larger. And this virus came from Space so...

You want heat vision feats, here you go:

You good or do you need more?

@originalgl_alan: Superman would not burn the earth because there is living people there

Prototype Wiki: Redlight Virus:

Redlight was the first variant of viral strand created by Blackwatch and was initially intended as a bio-weapon. This virus was code named as "DX-1118 A".^[1]

The experiments conducted using this virus were known as Carnival I and Carnival II. Military families of various nationalities were taken to Hope, Idaho, officially as part of an experimental self-sufficient town in the face of nuclear war.

In 1969, the virus found the perfect host in Elizabeth Greene, as her genetic makeup was uniquely suited to its purposes.

Blacklight Virus: The Blacklight virus, dubbed now as the Mercer Virus by the general public, is an evolutionary chimeric mutation-causing infectious agent that can reproduce only inside the living cells of other biological organisms. It was extracted and synthesized by Gentek, using a sample of Elizabeth Greene's blood, which had been infected with the Redlight virus years previously

It was synthesized on Earth, and has been known about since 1999. Nowhere does it say the virus is extraterrestrial.

@originalgl_alan: It is still nothing like the real Earths deceases. It creates mutants, make people crazy and lose skin, infect the earth's structure. They can consume Superman if they make him bleed first.

The closest is probably Rabies but Blacklight virus is 100x more dangerous than Rabies

@leonkarlen123: He didn't do it to burn the Earth, but to heat it up during the Final Night saga.

I'm sorry, what part of all known diseases on Earth did you not understand. The Blacklight Virus is known about and is classified as a disease, ergo Superman is immune to it. It's not a hard concept to grasp.

@originalgl_alan: It's still not in his universe's Earth... Blacklight virus is in DC? Tell me what issue .

Edit: Why you take all your scans from Wiki's? They are fake

@leonkarlen123: It doesn't matter if it's not of his Earth. The concept still stands, even in a mixed universe fight like this.

http://www.giantbomb.com/blacklight-virus/3015-2368/

Giant Bomb is a Comic Vine affiliated site dealing specifically with video games. It will give you the same information. Also, the information is from Mercer's Web of Intrigue so you have two other sources backing my original source, one of them being Prototype itself.

LAWYERED!!!

@originalgl_alan: My context still stands that he need to destroy whole Earth to completely remove the Virus from existence. They just spread millions a day so Supes got no time.

What on Earth would compel anyone to think this was fair for Mercer and Heller? Superman casually.