#1 Posted by supermandefender (2055 posts) - - Show Bio

 
The Fury of Firestorm #1
Captain Atom #3
 
#2 Posted by supermandefender (2055 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules are....You can only use current powerlevels and feats displayed in the new current 52 universe.  Morals on. Characters act like normally would.  
 
 
Earth has remembered the horrible things Manhattan has done and he has returned to earth. JLA, Firestorm, and Captain Atom are sent off to bring Dr. Manhattan to justice. Manhattan is forbidden to leave the fight, and he refuses to go quitely.  
 
#3 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio

They just talk it out.lol

#4 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Manhattan feats?

#5 Posted by supermandefender (2055 posts) - - Show Bio
@CapitolPunishment said:

Dr. Manhattan feats? 
 
What Manhattan has used up till now.


@difficlus said:

They just talk it out.lol


 
No talking it out it is forbidden in the rules. Manhattan starts the fight.  ^_^; 
 
#6 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio

Then Captain Atom solo's

#7 Posted by rudorudo (54 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol New 52 Captain Atom is Dr. Manhattan.....amirite?

#8 Posted by supermandefender (2055 posts) - - Show Bio
@rudorudo said:

Lol New 52 Captain Atom is Dr. Manhattan.....amirite?


 
That where it seems like they are going with him but he isnt there yet.
#9 Edited by buttersdaman000 (10499 posts) - - Show Bio

We should wait at least a year until solely using DCnU feats and characters........

#10 Posted by Joygirl (19951 posts) - - Show Bio

Manhattan shows up, sees the battle play out before him along with the rest of existence, sees that Batman's penis is larger than his and teleports to Mars so he can cry in peace. JL win by default.

#11 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio
@buttersdaman000 said:

We should wait at least a year until solely using DCnU feats and characters........


Agreed.
#12 Posted by JediXMan (31288 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Atom or Firestorm should solo.

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#13 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

Captain Atom or Firestorm should solo.


 

Also this.
#14 Posted by Maxwell Lord the fourth (1318 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it would be better to wait for the titles to be at least at the end of their first arc before using them in fights.

#15 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

The new 52 versions of those characters don't have enough feats. Just as bad as Manhattan himself.

#16 Posted by TifaLockhart (14157 posts) - - Show Bio

You guys should check out the Dr. Manhattan HeroClix figure. He puts Captain Atom to shame (which is sad, cause the Captain is awesome).

#17 Posted by supermandefender (2055 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
The new 52 versions of those characters don't have enough feats. Just as bad as Manhattan himself.

 
I also stated you can use current powerlevels. So if Captain Atom is supposely ect ect strong you can use that as debatable material. Like we know Superman has certain feats from Superman #1. When know Green latnerns and what there power rings do. We know Wonder Woman has magic weapons and is near Superman like strength. We know Firestorms powers. The limited there feats because someone could pull a ridiculous feat and use that like Hals old constructs are this strong or Supermans blizting. ect.
#18 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

You guys should check out the Dr. Manhattan HeroClix figure. He puts Captain Atom to shame (which is sad, cause the Captain is awesome).

AGREED!!

@Static Shock said:

The new 52 versions of those characters don't have enough feats. Just as bad as Manhattan himself.

Of course, but i still feel Dr. Manhattan has more potential, we dont know the extent of his powers apart from the fact that he is very powerful :)

#19 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall: J.T. Krul said that Captain Atom is the most powerful being in 52 right now. No feats yet. 
#20 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio
@supermandefender said:
 I also stated you can use current powerlevels.
You mean Pre-Flashpoint power levels?
#21 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

@Killemall: J.T. Krul said that Captain Atom is the most powerful being in 52 right now. No feats yet.

That's cool man, coz Captain Atom is AWESOME!! Sad to see he overtook superman but well happens!! But well Doc Manhattan is not included in the 52 so yeah i dont know man, its really hard to judge where he stands in terms of powers?? perhaps towards SS end.. dont know yet!!

#22 Posted by Saren (25071 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@Static Shock said:

@Killemall: J.T. Krul said that Captain Atom is the most powerful being in 52 right now. No feats yet.

That's cool man, coz Captain Atom is AWESOME!! Sad to see he overtook superman but well happens!! But well Doc Manhattan is not included in the 52 so yeah i dont know man, its really hard to judge where he stands in terms of powers?? perhaps towards SS end.. dont know yet!!

By what logic is Manhattan on Surfer's level? He's not even on Mr. M's level.
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#23 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Killemall said:

@Static Shock said:

@Killemall: J.T. Krul said that Captain Atom is the most powerful being in 52 right now. No feats yet.

That's cool man, coz Captain Atom is AWESOME!! Sad to see he overtook superman but well happens!! But well Doc Manhattan is not included in the 52 so yeah i dont know man, its really hard to judge where he stands in terms of powers?? perhaps towards SS end.. dont know yet!!

By what logic is Manhattan on Surfer's level? He's not even on Mr. M's level.

Because he showed matter manipulation powers, besides as i am not sure where to categories him i said "PERHAPS he is towards SS end" perhaps not :)

#24 Posted by Saren (25071 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Killemall said:

@Static Shock said:

@Killemall: J.T. Krul said that Captain Atom is the most powerful being in 52 right now. No feats yet.

That's cool man, coz Captain Atom is AWESOME!! Sad to see he overtook superman but well happens!! But well Doc Manhattan is not included in the 52 so yeah i dont know man, its really hard to judge where he stands in terms of powers?? perhaps towards SS end.. dont know yet!!

By what logic is Manhattan on Surfer's level? He's not even on Mr. M's level.

Because he showed matter manipulation powers, besides as i am not sure where to categories him i said "PERHAPS he is towards SS end" perhaps not :)

I can't begin to count the number of people who have displayed better matter manipulation than Manhattan.
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#25 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Killemall said:

I can't begin to count the number of people who have displayed better matter manipulation than Manhattan.

But can you really give me a long list of people who have shown matter manipulation, who can reconstruct his body from atoms in few seconds, has complete awareness of subatomic particle and time, can alter his body size, can see past present and future of himself, teleport himself from one planet to another at will, doesn’t need food or drink to survive, phase through solid object, make multiple copies of him that can function independently, has awesome energy attacks, and powerful telekinesis.

And if you can create such a list and provided they are still far below surfer than i would honor your claim :)

I rest my case.

#26 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: Besides what do u really mean better manipulation then Manhattan, i cant remember any instance when Manhattan wasnt able to manipulate sth despite his will :)

#27 Posted by Saren (25071 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall: What feats does Manhattan have that place him above people like Mr. M, who has created living dinosaurs from dust, or Proteus, who restructured the entirety of Edinburgh, or Legion, who froze time over Rome for hours, or Nate Grey, who could destroy continents with a thought, or Zatanna, who has run through hundreds of dimensions and can warp reality in any way with a word, or Shade, who creates simulacrums that can think for themselves, or Doom, who conjured a Time Cube out of nowhere on the spot, or Atom, who has created universes (even Animal Man has created a universe, for god's sake), or Firestorm who can turn the world into salt? 
 
Those are off the top of my head. Most of the abilities you mentioned are pretty useless in this  fight. Atom and Firestorm can go intangible. Increasing his body size? Meh. He can see the future but he himself acknowledged that he can't do anything about it. Atom and Firestorm can see subatomic particles. 
 
 
@Killemall
said:

@CitizenBane: Besides what do u really mean better manipulation then Manhattan, i cant remember any instance when Manhattan wasnt able to manipulate sth despite his will :)

What was Manhattan's greatest manipulation feat? I can't recall him doing anything that Atom or Firestorm can't easily do.
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#28 Posted by Killemall (18607 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Killemall: What feats does Manhattan have that place him above people like Mr. M, who has created living dinosaurs from dust, or Proteus, who restructured the entirety of Edinburgh, or Legion, who froze time over Rome for hours, or Nate Grey, who could destroy continents with a thought, or Zatanna, who has run through hundreds of dimensions and can warp reality in any way with a word, or Shade, who creates simulacrums that can think for themselves, or Doom, who conjured a Time Cube out of nowhere on the spot, or Atom, who has created universes (even Animal Man has created a universe, for god's sake), or Firestorm who can turn the world into salt?

Those are off the top of my head. Most of the abilities you mentioned are pretty useless in this fight. Atom and Firestorm can go intangible. Increasing his body size? Meh. He can see the future but he himself acknowledged that he can't do anything about it. Atom and Firestorm can see subatomic particles.


@Killemall
said:

@CitizenBane: Besides what do u really mean better manipulation then Manhattan, i cant remember any instance when Manhattan wasnt able to manipulate sth despite his will :)

What was Manhattan's greatest manipulation feat? I can't recall him doing anything that Atom or Firestorm can't easily do.

He never had to, that is the thing we have no clue whatsoever on his power limit. and which ability doesnt help, ability to see the future? ability to change size at will? ability to transmutate , ability to make multiple copies, energy attack why would they be useless?? He was pitted against weaker opponents and hence he didnt need to use any of his powers.

Besides how do u propose Mr. M would win against him? has anyone been able to hurt him, apart from he himself?

that is the thing besides i never mentioned he SHOULD WIN, all i said was he has a lot of potential and he PERHAPS (maybe) is in the same league as silver surfer.

#29 Posted by lol (5388 posts) - - Show Bio

Solos Atom

#30 Posted by dondave (38891 posts) - - Show Bio

Team

#31 Posted by pikachumonster (3100 posts) - - Show Bio

Not much has changed lol

#32 Posted by darkhunter89 (587 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Atom stomps.

Firestorm also.

#33 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

JLA stomps

#34 Posted by reaverlation (17063 posts) - - Show Bio

Nathaniel soloslaughters