The Most Epic Cosmic Battle in History

   
The battle of the Most Powerful Cosmic Beings of their respective Universes.. 
 
To make the battle more interesting, let's change some of the team members
 
DC's 
 

Lucifer Morningstar 
Michael Dermiurgos 
Death of the Endless 
Anti-Monitor  
The Spectre 
Mandrakk 

 
against
 
 
Marvel's 
 

The Beyonder 
The Living Tribunal 
The White Phoenix of the Crown 
Eternity 
Galactus 
Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet 
 
 
All are in their fullest.. All previous and present feats and powers included..  
 
Which group do you think would win? 
 
all comments are welcome..

The Beyonder solos.

Probably , Marvel's team wins . Is Anti-Monitor at COIE power level ?

"Probably , Marvel's team wins . Is Anti-Monitor at COIE power level ? "

Really an epic battle .

That depends in what editiorial is writing, but from my point of view the universe implode in a surge of implosive cosmic diarrhea and they all appear in a void dmension were they play D&D for eternity...

  @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" Really an epic battle . "

"   @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" Really an epic battle . "

How so? Beyonder curbstomps everyone. "

" @Baldy said:

"   @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" Really an epic battle . "

How so? Beyonder curbstomps everyone. "

I wouldn't say that . "

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

"   @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" Really an epic battle . "

How so? Beyonder curbstomps everyone. "

I wouldn't say that . "

Any paticular reason? "

" @Baldy said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

"   @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" Really an epic battle . "

How so? Beyonder curbstomps everyone. "

I wouldn't say that . "

Any paticular reason? "

2 . Lucifer . And COIE AM . "

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

"   @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" Really an epic battle . "

How so? Beyonder curbstomps everyone. "

I wouldn't say that . "

Any paticular reason? "

2 . Lucifer . And COIE AM . "

Neither of which come even close to the Beyonder in power, even Living Tribunal would stomp Lucifer. "

  @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy: Prove it . "

" @Baldy said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

"   @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" Really an epic battle . "

How so? Beyonder curbstomps everyone. "

I wouldn't say that . "

Any paticular reason? "

2 . Lucifer . And COIE AM . "

Neither of which come even close to the Beyonder in power, even Living Tribunal would stomp Lucifer. "

I think that claim is entirely debatable, especially when talking about near-omnipotent/omnipotent characters.  "

"   @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy: Prove it . "

You must be joking. Why not just read some comics?
 

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" @Baldy: Besides the limitation on creating something from nothing (which is so the basic laws of logic can stay somewhat untarnished), he is omnipotent. Certain things make him less than so: not having his wings, entering other dimensions specifically controlled by entities. The second one is a special case, and if you take it at face value then even the Beyonder would be limited in those realms.   He didn't even specify which Beyonder we are using. And I don't know why Dream is included here.  "

" @Baldy said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

"   @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" Really an epic battle . "

How so? Beyonder curbstomps everyone. "

I wouldn't say that . "

Any paticular reason? "

2 . Lucifer . And COIE AM . "

Neither of which come even close to the Beyonder in power, even Living Tribunal would stomp Lucifer. "

I think that claim is entirely debatable, especially when talking about near-omnipotent/omnipotent characters.  "

" @Baldy said:

"   @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy: Prove it . "

You must be joking. Why not just read some comics?
 

"

Not impressive . "

" @Baldy: Beyonder isn't omni-potent . His power has limit . "

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy: Beyonder isn't omni-potent . His power has limit . "

Did you bother to read the scan? It confirms it quite clearly.  What limitations does he have? "

" @Baldy said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy: Beyonder isn't omni-potent . His power has limit . "

Did you bother to read the scan? It confirms it quite clearly.  What limitations does he have? "

Doom proved that Beyonder's power is limited . "

" @Baldy: There are "three" Beyonders, and he showed a picture of the third one.   I don't believe LT could stomp Lucifer. I wasn't talking about PR Beyonder.  "

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy: Beyonder isn't omni-potent . His power has limit . "

Did you bother to read the scan? It confirms it quite clearly.  What limitations does he have? "

Doom proved that Beyonder's power is limited . "

No he used a plot device, you do know what a plot device is right?
 
@CosmicSpiral said:

" @Baldy: There are "three" Beyonders, and he showed a picture of the third one.   I don't believe LT could stomp Lucifer. I wasn't talking about PR Beyonder.  "

There is only one Beyonder, the most powerful version of this character is Pre-Retcon Beyonder. "

   @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy said:

" @TheJuggernautpunch said:

" @Baldy: Beyonder isn't omni-potent . His power has limit . "

Did you bother to read the scan? It confirms it quite clearly.  What limitations does he have? "

Doom proved that Beyonder's power is limited . "

No he used a plot device, you do know what a plot device is right?
 
@CosmicSpiral said:

" @Baldy: There are "three" Beyonders, and he showed a picture of the third one.   I don't believe LT could stomp Lucifer. I wasn't talking about PR Beyonder.  "

There is only one Beyonder, the most powerful version of this character is Pre-Retcon Beyonder. "

Hmm... So .... the plot device , huh ? OK . Let it be your way . I quit this . "

" Nice thread. The strongest 2 here are easily Lucifer and Beyonder. Im kind of thinkin who would win. They are just.....wow. Shoul've added Michael Demiurgos into this. That would be even more kick butt.  But Lucifer is stronger than LT. "

Lol , everyone , quick , launch the Anti-Storm missiles ... This thread is too good to die from the start .

" @Baldy: I admit that thats true, but from what we know he can manipulate anything on at least a universal scale. If here were to fight the LT he may not be able to create something from nothing, but he should be able to manipulate the already existing matter and any matter LT could create on a monumental scale. "

" @Baldy: IN context yes he is more powerful. BUT he cant beat Lucifer while Lucifer can beat him "

Marvel team Wins!

" What I am trying to say is that Lucifer can very well beat LT. YEs, he cannot create something out of nothing while the LT can. But what I am saying is that hes done things that are amazing in and of themselves. He was able to control and manipulate the raw power of Gd(Presensce whomever you want to use). THis easily shows his power level right there. Now anything LT throrws at him Im sure he could handle. LTs power level is nowhere near TOAA nor(from what I understand) can he bust out anything on TOAAs level  whom is the equivalent to the Presensce. Logically if he could control Gods power then he could control those much below His.ying he could defeat God just because he could control his power, but for someone to easily control Gods power to the point of making an universe(which may be infintely sized but I dont know about this since I dnt think the Bible ever says anything about the universes size) that just shows their power.Now immunity. When Michael died he released the Demiurgos(cant remember the first name of it) in hopes of Elaine(now currently the Presensce) to control it. At first she cant. They are ingulfed by the energy that could destroy the entire universe. Is that good enough? I respect your opininons and posts because they are logical and valid. Please dont tell me you believe the LT is anywhere near TOAA power level. "

" So he used God's power to make a universe? Can you provide a scan of this because it actually doesn't make sense for the character as he can't create things by himself.  LT on the otherhand has created universes completely by himself. "

" @Morpheus_: Yes thats what happened.Thanks. "

" @OblivionKnight said:

" @Morpheus_: Yes thats what happened.Thanks. "

No problem, glad I could help.
 
@Baldy:
 
I can give you scans if you like, as well. "

" Ooo. Hes been asking for scans as well? I thought he just meant to explain myself.-____- "

" Nice thread. The strongest 2 here are easily Lucifer and Beyonder. Im kind of thinkin who would win. They are just.....wow. Shoul've added Michael Demiurgos into this. That would be even more kick butt.  But Lucifer is stronger than LT. "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @OblivionKnight said:

" @Morpheus_: Yes thats what happened.Thanks. "

No problem, glad I could help.
 
@Baldy:
 
I can give you scans if you like, as well. "

Nope that's fine.
 

" @Baldy said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @OblivionKnight said:

" @Morpheus_: Yes thats what happened.Thanks. "

No problem, glad I could help.
 
@Baldy:
 
I can give you scans if you like, as well. "

Nope that's fine.
 

He orchestrated the whole event, and while he did it by himself (no one assisted him in the process), he does not have the power to create something out of nothing, at any case. "

" @Baldy: Im trying to find the right to say it. I guess what I'm saying is that He shaped the entire universe single-handedly. He didnt create it per say(seeing as though he needed the power of God) but then again if this is the case, then neither has the PF or LT. They are mainly just recycling what TOAA created his/her power from the beginning. "

" What I'm getting at is that the Living Tribunal can do what Lucifer and Micheal have to combine forces to accomplish. The Presence effectively split the power between them, where TOAA didn't with Living Tribunal.  I think that with Mike's help Lucifer could stalemate Living Tribunal, but with out that vital component I don't see how he can do it. "

" @Baldy said:

" What I'm getting at is that the Living Tribunal can do what Lucifer and Micheal have to combine forces to accomplish. The Presence effectively split the power between them, where TOAA didn't with Living Tribunal.  I think that with Mike's help Lucifer could stalemate Living Tribunal, but with out that vital component I don't see how he can do it. "

I participated in order to clarify - I don't disagree with that statement. "