Who in the Marvel Universe is definitevely more powerful than The Marquis of Death?
The Marquis of Death< ?
"Who in the Marvel Universe is definitevely more powerful than The Marquis of Death? "
I'm guessing Shuma Gorath
Living Tribunal I would guess. There's only one in the multiverse, and he appears in all simultaneously.
" Well The One Above-All and Living Tribunal are more or less a given, I meant besides. What about a full-fed Galactus? Or Phoenix? "
Galactus, probably. Phoenix, definitely.
"Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death."
I'm not sure how powerfull Current Beyonder and MM are but LC&MO and Death are not stronger than MoD
@King Quisling said:
"The Celestials. "nope
@ThanosIsMad said:
" @zi721 said:MoD would kill both!" Well The One Above-All and Living Tribunal are more or less a given, I meant besides. What about a full-fed Galactus? Or Phoenix? "Galactus, probably. Phoenix, definitely. "
MoD has spent years travelling the Multiverse exterminating each Universe,he has Undoubtedly faced Galactus and Phoenix countless times and killed them both
@Tevnoba said:
" Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death. "Current Molecule Man lose against him.
" TOAA,Classic Beyonder,LIving Tribunal, Pheonix Force, Multi-Abstracts,probably Abraxas or Hunger. There are only couple others who can do that.
@Tevnoba said:" Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death. "Current Molecule Man lose against him. "
He has most definatly come into Conflict with Phoenix before, the fact that he is Stll existing says that he Won
When? And what Pheonix that was? If this was only some kind of avatar,then it mean's nothing." @czarny_samael said:
" TOAA,Classic Beyonder,LIving Tribunal, Pheonix Force, Multi-Abstracts,probably Abraxas or Hunger. There are only couple others who can do that.He has most definatly come into Conflict with Phoenix before, the fact that he is Stll existing says that he Won "
@Tevnoba
said:" Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death. "Current Molecule Man lose against him. "
" TOAA,Classic Beyonder,LIving Tribunal, Pheonix Force, Multi-Abstracts,probably Abraxas or Hunger. There are only couple others who can do that.No actually he would not. Current Molecule Man (with the 2nd retcon of the Beyonder as an inhuman mutant) validated the things that occurred in the Secret Wars I & II miniseries, including Molecule Man. The New Beyonder is nigh-omnipotent being and Molecule Man is just bellow him.
@Tevnoba said:" Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death. "Current Molecule Man lose against him. "
"@G-w-D said:How many Unverses has MoD destroy'd? Meaning He's faced Galactus and Phoenix plenty of timesWhen? And what Pheonix that was? If this was only some kind of avatar,then it mean's nothing. "" @czarny_samael said:
" TOAA,Classic Beyonder,LIving Tribunal, Pheonix Force, Multi-Abstracts,probably Abraxas or Hunger. There are only couple others who can do that.He has most definatly come into Conflict with Phoenix before, the fact that he is Stll existing says that he Won "
@Tevnoba
said:" Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death. "Current Molecule Man lose against him. "
"@Tevnoba said:alot of mere speculation in there. The Fourth Host would wipe himout. The LT could erase him with his fingers. The PF it'self, not it's avatars. Thanos w/IG or HOTU. RLT."Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death."
I'm not sure how powerfull Current Beyonder and MM are but LC&MO and Death are not stronger than MoD
@King Quisling said:"The Celestials. "nope
@ThanosIsMad said:" @zi721 said:MoD would kill both! MoD has spent years travelling the Multiverse exterminating each Universe,he has Undoubtedly faced Galactus and Phoenix countless times and killed them both "" Well The One Above-All and Living Tribunal are more or less a given, I meant besides. What about a full-fed Galactus? Or Phoenix? "Galactus, probably. Phoenix, definitely. "
" @czarny_samael said:Not necessarily. If the Phoenix Force has not chosen an avatar for a particular universe then he would not face the Phoenix at all."@G-w-D said:How many Unverses has MoD destroy'd? Meaning He's faced Galactus and Phoenix plenty of times "When? And what Pheonix that was? If this was only some kind of avatar,then it mean's nothing. "" @czarny_samael said:
" TOAA,Classic Beyonder,LIving Tribunal, Pheonix Force, Multi-Abstracts,probably Abraxas or Hunger. There are only couple others who can do that.He has most definatly come into Conflict with Phoenix before, the fact that he is Stll existing says that he Won "
@Tevnoba
said:" Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death. "Current Molecule Man lose against him. "
" @czarny_samael said:Not necessarily. If the Phoenix Force has not chosen an avatar for a particular universe then he would not face the Phoenix at all."@G-w-D said:How many Unverses has MoD destroy'd? Meaning He's faced Galactus and Phoenix plenty of times "When? And what Pheonix that was? If this was only some kind of avatar,then it mean's nothing. "" @czarny_samael said:
" TOAA,Classic Beyonder,LIving Tribunal, Pheonix Force, Multi-Abstracts,probably Abraxas or Hunger. There are only couple others who can do that.He has most definatly come into Conflict with Phoenix before, the fact that he is Stll existing says that he Won "
@Tevnoba
said:" Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death. "Current Molecule Man lose against him. "
"@G-w-D said:"@Tevnoba said:alot of mere speculation in there. The Fourth Host would wipe himout. The LT could erase him with his fingers. The PF it'self, not it's avatars. Thanos w/IG or HOTU. RLT. ""Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death."
I'm not sure how powerfull Current Beyonder and MM are but LC&MO and Death are not stronger than MoD
@King Quisling said:"The Celestials. "nope
@ThanosIsMad said:" @zi721 said:MoD would kill both! MoD has spent years travelling the Multiverse exterminating each Universe,he has Undoubtedly faced Galactus and Phoenix countless times and killed them both "" Well The One Above-All and Living Tribunal are more or less a given, I meant besides. What about a full-fed Galactus? Or Phoenix? "Galactus, probably. Phoenix, definitely. "
Its not mere speculation it's common sense, What doesn't make sense is why you're Trying to refute my claim that MoD can beat Galactus by stating the LT can beat him?
Look here:" @czarny_samael said:
" TOAA,Classic Beyonder,LIving Tribunal, Pheonix Force, Multi-Abstracts,probably Abraxas or Hunger. There are only couple others who can do that.No actually he would not. Current Molecule Man (with the 2nd retcon of the Beyonder as an inhuman mutant) validated the things that occurred in the Secret Wars I & II miniseries, including Molecule Man. The New Beyonder is nigh-omnipotent being and Molecule Man is just bellow him. "
@Tevnoba said:" Besides other stated: Current Beyonder and Molecule Man are probably stronger, Lord Chaos & Master Order, Death. "Current Molecule Man lose against him. "
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/the-marquis-of-death-vs-jamie-braddock/401933/
He did it. I belive that Molecule Man is nigh-omnipotent, but MoD is just more powerfull than him. He is one of the most powerfull beings in Marvel history.
@czarny_samael666: " TOAA,Classic Beyonder,LIving Tribunal, Pheonix Force, Multi-Abstracts,probably Abraxas or Hunger. There are only couple others who can do that."
Absolutely none of The people you mentioned could beat him besides Pre-Retcon Beyonder and TOAA. He's killed the Pheonix Force, He's created beings and constructs more powerful then the Abstracts. Not to mention he killed majority of the people on your list already wity no effort whatsoever.
He did kill Molecule Man so in theory right near the tippy top. With that being said not all authors treat MM the same, see the infamous Sentry incident.
LT, The Never Queen, Nemesis, Beyonder, Molecule Man, Beyonders, Life Bringer Galactus, Logos, Eternity(8th Cosmos), Thanos(HotU and Regulator).
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