#1 Posted by BarryWest (52 posts) - - Show Bio

In the swamps. with reptilian life for the Lizard's advantage.  
#2 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio

 

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

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#3 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
"  

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
Yeah it'd be great to watch, even though i hate Wolverine.
#4 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@Baldy said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"  

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
Yeah it'd be great to watch, even though i hate Wolverine. "
The last two threads against Kal-El and Diana would probably had something to do with it...
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#5 Posted by GhostPool (663 posts) - - Show Bio

I go with Wolvie he know how to get around Lizard
#6 Posted by Alberic (276 posts) - - Show Bio

wolverine

#7 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16629 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine.

#8 Posted by Arkayna (13 posts) - - Show Bio

Where does wolverine get the power to pierce something that is bullet proof? Adamantium may be very durable but that doesn't make wolverine strong enough to just pierce anything with it. I'll go with the lizard.

#9 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15258 posts) - - Show Bio

I am going with the Lizard

#10 Posted by mrwenpire (275 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"

This post is full of fail. 
 
Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine. 
 
Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin. 
 
Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.   
 
Lizard 9/ 10
#11 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrwenpire said:
"@Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "

logan has no issues with penetration of lizards's skin here, like morpheus said above it may take a while for logan to land a hit but once he does it's pretty much over instantly
#12 Posted by mrwenpire (275 posts) - - Show Bio
@capall said:
"@mrwenpire said:
"@Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "
logan has no issues with penetration of lizards's skin here, like morpheus said above it may take a while for logan to land a hit but once he does it's pretty much over instantly "

Then it shows me you don't know what you are talking about.  Before you make a post you need to read others post carefully. 
 
So I will state this again.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 TONS.  That is several times heavier then Wolverine has ever ever lifted.   
 
Lizard has been hit by machine guns, and was not hurt at all.   
 
In order for adamantium to work here, Wolverine needs to have the strength to DRIVE IT IN.  Unfortunately for Logan, he does not have that strength.
#13 Edited by chunjacktao (334 posts) - - Show Bio

Not to mention the fact that Lizard has lizard reflexes on par with Spiderman, which is  hundreds of times better than Wolverine. 
lizard also has a healing factor not much slower than wolverine.
#14 Posted by Ferro Vida (34227 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrwenpire said:
" @capall said:
"@mrwenpire said:
"@Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "
logan has no issues with penetration of lizards's skin here, like morpheus said above it may take a while for logan to land a hit but once he does it's pretty much over instantly "

Then it shows me you don't know what you are talking about.  Before you make a post you need to read others post carefully. 
 
So I will state this again.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 TONS.  That is several times heavier then Wolverine has ever ever lifted.   
 Lizard has been hit by machine guns, and was not hurt at all.    In order for adamantium to work here, Wolverine needs to have the strength to DRIVE IT IN.  Unfortunately for Logan, he does not have that strength. "
1) What does Lizard's lifting strength have to do with anything? When Spider-man was able to lift 25 tons (pre BND) he wasn't able to KO Logan.
2) Show the scan of Lizard taking machine gun fire without being hurt.
3) Yes he does.
#15 Edited by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrwenpire said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "
 
 

Shh. No one cares what you think. Also, don't reiterate everything I said and then try and sound as if you said something novel, simply because my verdict is different from what you'd like to hear.
 
The only thing worth addressing from this post full of gibberish and repetitiveness, is that the Lizard obviously can't lift 20 tons.

 

 
 Learn to read.
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#16 Posted by They Killed Cap! (2243 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the Lizard takes it on the chin and Wolverine owns him
#17 Posted by BarryWest (52 posts) - - Show Bio

The question is; can Wolverine land a hit on the Lizard? I mean, I'm basing my argument on the fact that the Lizard's agility and reflexes are on par with Spider-Man's, which is saying something in the comics universe. So, I'm sure that using his 12 ton strength level, he can deliver a few knock-out punches to Logan's face. That is, without being skewered by him.  
I just think Wolverine is overrated. Dont worry, I'm not a hater. 

#18 Posted by Mike10 (313 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine has no chance in hell. Lizard wins no matter what. Lizard's faster, stronger, and more agile. Not to mention. Very intelligent. Lizard can life 12 tons and Wolverine can only lift 800 lbs. Lizard was one of Spidey's strongest enemies to fight and had a hard time hitting him since Lizard is more or as fast and agile as Spider-Man. Wolverine really ain't that fast and agile enough get a direct hit on Lizard. He's too fast for Wolverine. Plus Wolverine also isn't anywhere near Spidey's strength. Wolverine can't beat Spider-Man and since Lizard was as strong or stronger than Spider-Man. Lizard also has a better healing factor. He can heal right away and also regrow limbs right away. Lizard takes this.
#19 Posted by The_Martian (36980 posts) - - Show Bio

Lizard should take this fight. He is much faster, stronger, and more durable than Wolverine. He also has an extra limb for fight. Wolverine's claws could cut through Lizard, but Lizard has a healing factor that is near Wolverine's level.

#20 Posted by Mike10 (313 posts) - - Show Bio

Lizard wins.

#21 Posted by chunjacktao (334 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_ said:
"@mrwenpire said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "
 
 

Shh. No one cares what you think. Also, don't reiterate everything I said and then try and sound as if you said something novel, simply because my verdict is different from what you'd like to hear.
 
The only thing worth addressing from this post full of gibberish and repetitiveness, is that the Lizard obviously can't lift 20 tons.

 

 
Learn to read.
"

WOW!  You just OWNED urself BAD right there.  This scan shows Lizard doing things that Wolverine would NEVER EVER be able to do. 
 Maybe YOU should learn how to read????? 
#22 Posted by mrwenpire (275 posts) - - Show Bio
@chunjacktao said:
"@Morpheus_ said:
"@mrwenpire said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "
 
 

Shh. No one cares what you think. Also, don't reiterate everything I said and then try and sound as if you said something novel, simply because my verdict is different from what you'd like to hear.
 
The only thing worth addressing from this post full of gibberish and repetitiveness, is that the Lizard obviously can't lift 20 tons.

 

 
Learn to read.
"

WOW!  You just OWNED urself BAD right there.  This scan shows Lizard doing things that Wolverine would NEVER EVER be able to do.  Maybe YOU should learn how to read?????  "

 This scan shows lots of things that Lizard can do that can potentially KO Wolverine immediately. 
@Ferro Vida said:
" @mrwenpire said:
" @capall said:
"@mrwenpire said:
"@Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "
logan has no issues with penetration of lizards's skin here, like morpheus said above it may take a while for logan to land a hit but once he does it's pretty much over instantly "

Then it shows me you don't know what you are talking about.  Before you make a post you need to read others post carefully. 
 
So I will state this again.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 TONS.  That is several times heavier then Wolverine has ever ever lifted.   
 Lizard has been hit by machine guns, and was not hurt at all.    In order for adamantium to work here, Wolverine needs to have the strength to DRIVE IT IN.  Unfortunately for Logan, he does not have that strength. "
1) What does Lizard's lifting strength have to do with anything? When Spider-man was able to lift 25 tons (pre BND) he wasn't able to KO Logan. 2) Show the scan of Lizard taking machine gun fire without being hurt. 3) Yes he does. "

Alright, pretty much everyone here agrees Lizard will PAWN Wolverine except for you.     
Spiderman and Wolverine fought, and Spiderman just hopped around and watched Wolverine fall again and again on his butt. 
 
 
 
Spiderman owning Wolverine above.
#23 Posted by Psyker star (3492 posts) - - Show Bio

Lizard wins he would drown Logan FTW 

#24 Edited by sirzang (4 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:
" @mrwenpire said:
" @capall said:
"@mrwenpire said:
"@Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "
logan has no issues with penetration of lizards's skin here, like morpheus said above it may take a while for logan to land a hit but once he does it's pretty much over instantly "

Then it shows me you don't know what you are talking about.  Before you make a post you need to read others post carefully. 
 
So I will state this again.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 TONS.  That is several times heavier then Wolverine has ever ever lifted.   
 Lizard has been hit by machine guns, and was not hurt at all.    In order for adamantium to work here, Wolverine needs to have the strength to DRIVE IT IN.  Unfortunately for Logan, he does not have that strength. "
1) What does Lizard's lifting strength have to do with anything? When Spider-man was able to lift 25 tons (pre BND) he wasn't able to KO Logan. 2) Show the scan of Lizard taking machine gun fire without being hurt. 3) Yes he does. "
 
1).LOL????????????  Lizard's strength, as stated by Marvel Experts and numerous other people, is over 7 times greater than Wolverine's.  
2). Spiderman has OWNED Wolverine numerous times.  And thats a JOKING spiderman. 
3). Lizard has taken a lot more than a machine gun.   
4). No. 
 
You ignoring all the facts and evidences provided by people and ur making stupid assumptions.  I don't know if ur just too wet off with hugh jackman or wolverine or wat but wat saying that wolverine even has a slight chance here is ridiculous.
#25 Posted by ihatemymom (89 posts) - - Show Bio

Lizard is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wolverine in every single way imaginable.
#26 Posted by Incredible Hulk-Prime (1466 posts) - - Show Bio

The Lizard wins this and that is final.
#27 Posted by BarryWest (52 posts) - - Show Bio

But, we've failed to consider the fact that Wolverine has had a century's worth, if not more, of h2h combat. I mean, we all know that he's learned everything there is to know about hurting a guy, from doing it quietly to doing it with the most blood. He definitely knows how to fight. Add that to his experience as a fighter, which is most of his life, I'm sure he can take down the Lizard if he put his mind to it. 

#28 Posted by OmegaRed86 (504 posts) - - Show Bio
@BarryWest said:
" But, we've failed to consider the fact that Wolverine has had a century's worth, if not more, of h2h combat. I mean, we all know that he's learned everything there is to know about hurting a guy, from doing it quietly to doing it with the most blood. He definitely knows how to fight. Add that to his experience as a fighter, which is most of his life, I'm sure he can take down the Lizard if he put his mind to it.  "
But how often does Wolverine act like an idiot and simply jumps into a fight with his claws out and swings for the fences? 
 
He has the potential to be a smart and tactical fighter, but instead he relies on healing factor, adamantiium laced skeleton, and ad attitude.
#29 Posted by Valentino (342 posts) - - Show Bio
@sirzang said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @mrwenpire said:
" @capall said:
"@mrwenpire said:
"@Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "
logan has no issues with penetration of lizards's skin here, like morpheus said above it may take a while for logan to land a hit but once he does it's pretty much over instantly "

Then it shows me you don't know what you are talking about.  Before you make a post you need to read others post carefully. 
 
So I will state this again.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 TONS.  That is several times heavier then Wolverine has ever ever lifted.   
 Lizard has been hit by machine guns, and was not hurt at all.    In order for adamantium to work here, Wolverine needs to have the strength to DRIVE IT IN.  Unfortunately for Logan, he does not have that strength. "
1) What does Lizard's lifting strength have to do with anything? When Spider-man was able to lift 25 tons (pre BND) he wasn't able to KO Logan. 2) Show the scan of Lizard taking machine gun fire without being hurt. 3) Yes he does. "
 1).LOL????????????  Lizard's strength, as stated by Marvel Experts and numerous other people, is over 7 times greater than Wolverine's.  2). Spiderman has OWNED Wolverine numerous times.  And thats a JOKING spiderman. 3). Lizard has taken a lot more than a machine gun.   4). No.  You ignoring all the facts and evidences provided by people and ur making stupid assumptions.  I don't know if ur just too wet off with hugh jackman or wolverine or wat but wat saying that wolverine even has a slight chance here is ridiculous. "
What facts, exactly? You haven't posted any proof and you have ignored me asking you for it.
 
1) I didn't say Lizard wasn't stronger then him (though I want to see the source you are getting "seven times stronger" from), I said that opponents with superhuman greater than what you say the Lizard has have been unable to take down Logan.
2) Post a scan. Why not look up the Spider-man vs. Wolverine thread and see how no one could agree on an outcome?
3) Prove it. I'm freaking serious, prove it or shut up.
4) If I'm wet for Hugh Jackman then you must be wet for reptiles, based on the fact that your whole arguement is based on fanboyism and utter crap.
#30 Posted by OmegaRed86 (504 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valentino:  
 
But can you at least admit that Wolverine is completely outclassed in Strength, Speed, Stamina, and Toughness?  It would make sense that Wolverine would lose.
#31 Posted by BarryWest (52 posts) - - Show Bio

To be honest, Wolverine is more dangerous in his feral state. I wouldnt want to be around when Wolverine doesnt hold back. 

#32 Posted by Valentino (342 posts) - - Show Bio
@OmegaRed86 said:
" @Valentino:   But can you at least admit that Wolverine is completely outclassed in Strength, Speed, Stamina, and Toughness?  It would make sense that Wolverine would lose. "
Strength? Yes. Speed? Not as much as you might think, but yes. Stamina is a non-factor because they can both pretty much go indefinitely, and so is durability thanks to the adamantium and the healing factor.
 
Wolverine is outclassed in many aspects here, and the fact that the fight is set in a swamp will make it difficult for him to win. Logan is a lot smarter than Lizard is, though; he knows how to fight opponents who outclass him in different aspects (he knows how to fight period), and if anyone can track down Connors in a marshland it is him.
 
Show a durability feat of Lizard that would support the idea that he can't be cut by Wolverine's claws. I've seen him chew his own tail off before, which proves that he isn't as durable as certain people are claiming him to be. He's also been outsmarted by Spider-man. Peter might have a higher IQ than Wolverine, but his experience gives him a massive edge here.
#33 Posted by OmegaRed86 (504 posts) - - Show Bio
@BarryWest:  
 
I'd be more scared of Savage Hulk than Berserker Rage Wolverine. 
 
But I see your point.  
#34 Posted by OmegaRed86 (504 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valentino:  
 
I see your points and I'll wait for the other guy to reply. 
 
And hopefully we can have a discussion without name calling.  We leave that to the DC Fanboys.
#35 Posted by Valentino (342 posts) - - Show Bio
@OmegaRed86 said:
" @Valentino:   I see your points and I'll wait for the other guy to reply.  And hopefully we can have a discussion without name calling.  We leave that to the DC Fanboys. "
I don't do namecalling. Trash talk is another matter ;)
#36 Posted by BarryWest (52 posts) - - Show Bio

So, EVERYONE knows what Wolverine is capable of. Here's what The Lizard is capable of:  

  • Healing factor; able to regenerate lost limbs. 
  • Superhuman strength; able to bench press 12 tons.
  • Enhanced agility, stamina and reflexes; on par with Spider-Man. 
  • Powerful tail; able to whip at high speeds and cause major damage. 
  • Razor sharp teeth and muscular jaw; lethal bite. 
  • Telepathy; over all reptiles. 
  • Pheromone secretion. 
  • Durable skin; to a degree i.e low calibre bullets. 
 
Okay, from what I've given we can safely say that The Lizard's biggest advantages are his enhanced speed, stamina and reflexes, his super strength and also his telepathy.  
This might sound a tad far fetched, but bare with me here: Since they're in the swamp, there'll be alligators there, it's their natural habitat, right? So, The Lizard would definitely make full use of them by ordering them to attack Logan and pile-on him, distracting him from the real threat. Whilst Logan makes sushi out of the gators, The Lizard will come in at the right time and whip him right in the chest, that's gotta hurt even if you're Wolverine, right?. Then, the rest is up to the Lizard haha.   
What I'm saying is, the telepathy would be real useful in distracting Wolverine. 
#37 Posted by Valentino (342 posts) - - Show Bio
@BarryWest: He whips his tail at speeds reaching 90 mph, to be precise.
 
When Lizard fought the X-men in the Florida Everglades he did not exercise control over the local 'gators in combat. While in his unintelligent state, he is a wild animal; a creature who hunts for himself and himself alone.
 
Besides, I can see Logan making use of the trees here. He knows that fighting Connors in the water would be a stupid idea, so he would try to avoid that situation.
 
Logan has kept up with Spider-man, and even moved fast enough to avoid hits from him; so fast, in fact, the Peter was not able to follow him with his eye (on at least one occasion in an old Wolverine comic)
#38 Posted by mrwenpire (275 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valentino said:
" @OmegaRed86 said:
" @Valentino:   But can you at least admit that Wolverine is completely outclassed in Strength, Speed, Stamina, and Toughness?  It would make sense that Wolverine would lose. "
Strength? Yes. Speed? Not as much as you might think, but yes. Stamina is a non-factor because they can both pretty much go indefinitely, and so is durability thanks to the adamantium and the healing factor.  Wolverine is outclassed in many aspects here, and the fact that the fight is set in a swamp will make it difficult for him to win. Logan is a lot smarter than Lizard is, though; he knows how to fight opponents who outclass him in different aspects (he knows how to fight period), and if anyone can track down Connors in a marshland it is him.  Show a durability feat of Lizard that would support the idea that he can't be cut by Wolverine's claws. I've seen him chew his own tail off before, which proves that he isn't as durable as certain people are claiming him to be. He's also been outsmarted by Spider-man. Peter might have a higher IQ than Wolverine, but his experience gives him a massive edge here. "

Alright man, let me give u a heads up on what you just did to urself. 
 
1). You posted a scan that owned ur own ass 
2). You admitted u were wet for hugh jackman 
3). There was a scan of peter OWNING Wolverine here.  ( which proves to everyone that you can't read.................. ) 
 

 
 
Wolverine was owned in the above comic.  He was far too slow to catch Spiderman. 
 
#39 Posted by chunjacktao (334 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valentino said:
" @sirzang said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @mrwenpire said:
" @capall said:
"@mrwenpire said:
"@Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "
logan has no issues with penetration of lizards's skin here, like morpheus said above it may take a while for logan to land a hit but once he does it's pretty much over instantly "

Then it shows me you don't know what you are talking about.  Before you make a post you need to read others post carefully. 
 
So I will state this again.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 TONS.  That is several times heavier then Wolverine has ever ever lifted.   
 Lizard has been hit by machine guns, and was not hurt at all.    In order for adamantium to work here, Wolverine needs to have the strength to DRIVE IT IN.  Unfortunately for Logan, he does not have that strength. "
1) What does Lizard's lifting strength have to do with anything? When Spider-man was able to lift 25 tons (pre BND) he wasn't able to KO Logan. 2) Show the scan of Lizard taking machine gun fire without being hurt. 3) Yes he does. "
 1).LOL????????????  Lizard's strength, as stated by Marvel Experts and numerous other people, is over 7 times greater than Wolverine's.  2). Spiderman has OWNED Wolverine numerous times.  And thats a JOKING spiderman. 3). Lizard has taken a lot more than a machine gun.   4). No.  You ignoring all the facts and evidences provided by people and ur making stupid assumptions.  I don't know if ur just too wet off with hugh jackman or wolverine or wat but wat saying that wolverine even has a slight chance here is ridiculous. "
What facts, exactly? You haven't posted any proof and you have ignored me asking you for it.  1) I didn't say Lizard wasn't stronger then him (though I want to see the source you are getting "seven times stronger" from), I said that opponents with superhuman greater than what you say the Lizard has have been unable to take down Logan. 2) Post a scan. Why not look up the Spider-man vs. Wolverine thread and see how no one could agree on an outcome?3) Prove it. I'm freaking serious, prove it or shut up. 4) If I'm wet for Hugh Jackman then you must be wet for reptiles, based on the fact that your whole arguement is based on fanboyism and utter crap. "

#40 Posted by Valentino (342 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrwenpire said:
" @Valentino said:
" @OmegaRed86 said:
" @Valentino:   But can you at least admit that Wolverine is completely outclassed in Strength, Speed, Stamina, and Toughness?  It would make sense that Wolverine would lose. "
Strength? Yes. Speed? Not as much as you might think, but yes. Stamina is a non-factor because they can both pretty much go indefinitely, and so is durability thanks to the adamantium and the healing factor.  Wolverine is outclassed in many aspects here, and the fact that the fight is set in a swamp will make it difficult for him to win. Logan is a lot smarter than Lizard is, though; he knows how to fight opponents who outclass him in different aspects (he knows how to fight period), and if anyone can track down Connors in a marshland it is him.  Show a durability feat of Lizard that would support the idea that he can't be cut by Wolverine's claws. I've seen him chew his own tail off before, which proves that he isn't as durable as certain people are claiming him to be. He's also been outsmarted by Spider-man. Peter might have a higher IQ than Wolverine, but his experience gives him a massive edge here. "

Alright man, let me give u a heads up on what you just did to urself. 
 
1). You posted a scan that owned ur own ass 
2). You admitted u were wet for hugh jackman 
3). There was a scan of peter OWNING Wolverine here.  ( which proves to everyone that you can't read.................. ) 
 

 
 
Wolverine was owned in the above comic.  He was far too slow to catch Spiderman. 
 
"
1) I haven't posted a single scan in this thread. Way to pay attention though.
 
2) No, actually I didn't. I can see how, since you learned to read from a cereal box, you would think that, though.
 
3) There really isn't.
 
Congrats on posting Cover Art and Fan Art as an arguement. I have an issue of New Avengers with the Hood standing over the fallen team on the cover. The Hood doesn't even appear in the issue.
 
What does that cover art prove, anyway? That Spider-man can avoid one hit barely?
#42 Posted by ihatemymom (89 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valentino said:
" @OmegaRed86 said:
" @Valentino:   But can you at least admit that Wolverine is completely outclassed in Strength, Speed, Stamina, and Toughness?  It would make sense that Wolverine would lose. "
Strength? Yes. Speed? Not as much as you might think, but yes. Stamina is a non-factor because they can both pretty much go indefinitely, and so is durability thanks to the adamantium and the healing factor.  Wolverine is outclassed in many aspects here, and the fact that the fight is set in a swamp will make it difficult for him to win. Logan is a lot smarter than Lizard is, though; he knows how to fight opponents who outclass him in different aspects (he knows how to fight period), and if anyone can track down Connors in a marshland it is him.  Show a durability feat of Lizard that would support the idea that he can't be cut by Wolverine's claws. I've seen him chew his own tail off before, which proves that he isn't as durable as certain people are claiming him to be. He's also been outsmarted by Spider-man. Peter might have a higher IQ than Wolverine, but his experience gives him a massive edge here. "

You've already lost big boy!!!  Just Accept defeat and stop acting like a loser!!!!!!! If you wanna be treated with respect then at least treat other guys with respect!!!!!!   
 
Every scan that chunjacktao and mrwenpire have showed trumphs ur claim that Wolverine will have any chance at all. 
You wanted scans.  There are PLENTY here.  You just don't look cauz ur so clouded by ur love for wolverine!!!!   
When ur wrong just admit ur wrong.  It takes an immature boy to be obstinent but it takes a real man to admit defeat with a big heart!!!!!!! 
 
Hope that helps!!!!  
and by the way, Lizard is 30 times stronger than Wolverine.  ( checked with Marvel last night )
#43 Posted by Valentino (342 posts) - - Show Bio
@mrwenpire said:
" @chunjacktao said:
"@Valentino said:
" @sirzang said:
" @Ferro Vida said:
" @mrwenpire said:
" @capall said:
"@mrwenpire said:
"@Morpheus_ said:

While the set up does give Connors a much needed advantage, Wolverine could potentially locate the Lizard before he managed to get the drop on him. Even if he doesn't, Connors' animalistic nature prevents him from devising and executing well thought out plans. And while the Lizard is physically superior to Wolverine, has greater reach and an extra limb, is durable enough to take the hits for long enough, until he manages to connect. Which, considering the Lizard's usual brawling approach is very likely. And, despite the Lizard's skin being bullet proof, adamantium will have no trouble penetrating it, at all. All in all, Curtis will have Wolverine work for it for a while, he will even corner/overwhelm him for a while with some swift, powerful blows, but Wolverine takes this after a brutal fight.

"
This post is full of fail.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 tons, which makes him 6 times stronger than Wolverine.  Adamantium is sharp alright, but in order to hurt Lizard, you need to DRIVE IT IN.  And unfortunately for poor old wolvy, he does not have the strength to drive adamantium into lizard's skin.  Lizard is also faster, and has far better reflexes.  Wolverine has been annihilated and knocked out by the likes of sabretooth.    Lizard 9/ 10 "
logan has no issues with penetration of lizards's skin here, like morpheus said above it may take a while for logan to land a hit but once he does it's pretty much over instantly "

Then it shows me you don't know what you are talking about.  Before you make a post you need to read others post carefully. 
 
So I will state this again.  Lizard can lift in access of 20 TONS.  That is several times heavier then Wolverine has ever ever lifted.   
 Lizard has been hit by machine guns, and was not hurt at all.    In order for adamantium to work here, Wolverine needs to have the strength to DRIVE IT IN.  Unfortunately for Logan, he does not have that strength. "
1) What does Lizard's lifting strength have to do with anything? When Spider-man was able to lift 25 tons (pre BND) he wasn't able to KO Logan. 2) Show the scan of Lizard taking machine gun fire without being hurt. 3) Yes he does. "
 1).LOL????????????  Lizard's strength, as stated by Marvel Experts and numerous other people, is over 7 times greater than Wolverine's.  2). Spiderman has OWNED Wolverine numerous times.  And thats a JOKING spiderman. 3). Lizard has taken a lot more than a machine gun.   4). No.  You ignoring all the facts and evidences provided by people and ur making stupid assumptions.  I don't know if ur just too wet off with hugh jackman or wolverine or wat but wat saying that wolverine even has a slight chance here is ridiculous. "
What facts, exactly? You haven't posted any proof and you have ignored me asking you for it.  1) I didn't say Lizard wasn't stronger then him (though I want to see the source you are getting "seven times stronger" from), I said that opponents with superhuman greater than what you say the Lizard has have been unable to take down Logan. 2) Post a scan. Why not look up the Spider-man vs. Wolverine thread and see how no one could agree on an outcome?3) Prove it. I'm freaking serious, prove it or shut up. 4) If I'm wet for Hugh Jackman then you must be wet for reptiles, based on the fact that your whole arguement is based on fanboyism and utter crap. "

"


Alright, Valentino, take a GOOD LOOK at that scan/picture. ( wolverine is TOASTED here).  You just got OWNED BAD right here.

You wanted proof huh????????  here ya have it loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OWNED baby. 
 
I checked again last night.  Wolverine can lift 800 lbs.  Spiderman and Lizard can lift 25 tons.  Even COMPARING Lizard and Wolverine here is just stupid.


 

"
Congrats. You editted a scan that has nothing to do with this fight at all into my post and obviously think I'm stupid enough to fall for it
 
Yes, I want proof.
 
Which still proves nothing. Spider-man has been totally unable to beat Logan despite being able to life/press 25 tons. He is smarter and more agile then the Lizard, too. Not to mention the fact that Wolverine would never try to kill Peter, while Connors would be fair game. I admitted Lizard is stronger. That doesn't mean he will win. Way to show a basic understanding of the English language, though.
#44 Posted by Valentino (342 posts) - - Show Bio
@ihatemymom said:
" @Valentino said:
" @OmegaRed86 said:
" @Valentino:   But can you at least admit that Wolverine is completely outclassed in Strength, Speed, Stamina, and Toughness?  It would make sense that Wolverine would lose. "
Strength? Yes. Speed? Not as much as you might think, but yes. Stamina is a non-factor because they can both pretty much go indefinitely, and so is durability thanks to the adamantium and the healing factor.  Wolverine is outclassed in many aspects here, and the fact that the fight is set in a swamp will make it difficult for him to win. Logan is a lot smarter than Lizard is, though; he knows how to fight opponents who outclass him in different aspects (he knows how to fight period), and if anyone can track down Connors in a marshland it is him.  Show a durability feat of Lizard that would support the idea that he can't be cut by Wolverine's claws. I've seen him chew his own tail off before, which proves that he isn't as durable as certain people are claiming him to be. He's also been outsmarted by Spider-man. Peter might have a higher IQ than Wolverine, but his experience gives him a massive edge here. "
You've already lost big boy!!!  Just Accept defeat and stop acting like a loser!!!!!!! If you wanna be treated with respect then at least treat other guys with respect!!!!!!    Every scan that chunjacktao and mrwenpire have showed trumphs ur claim that Wolverine will have any chance at all. You wanted scans.  There are PLENTY here.  You just don't look cauz ur so clouded by ur love for wolverine!!!!   When ur wrong just admit ur wrong.  It takes an immature boy to be obstinent but it takes a real man to admit defeat with a big heart!!!!!!!  Hope that helps!!!!  and by the way, Lizard is 30 times stronger than Wolverine.  ( checked with Marvel last night ) "
Wow, you went out a made another account just to make it look like people were agreeing with you? Now that is some capital effort!
 
Unless you truly another person, in which case that little display there makes me weep for the future of society.
#45 Posted by Precise (22883 posts) - - Show Bio

And lizard doesn't have webbing so that scan is pretty much useless anyway xP

#46 Posted by Valentino (342 posts) - - Show Bio
@Precise: Oh good, someone who actually knows about these characters. I was getting lonely
#47 Posted by Precise (22883 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valentino: Well i'm not saying it would be easy for Wolverine to beat Lizard. But the arguments that are being made by others are not making much sense..
#48 Posted by Valentino (342 posts) - - Show Bio
@Precise said:
" @Valentino: Well i'm not saying it would be easy for Wolverine to beat Lizard. But the arguments that are being made by others are not making much sense.. "
I'm not either, but I've seen him win tougher fights.
 
You mean the arguements that are supported by insulting me, cover art, and fan art? I wonder why
#49 Posted by Precise (22883 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valentino said:
" @Precise said:
" @Valentino: Well i'm not saying it would be easy for Wolverine to beat Lizard. But the arguments that are being made by others are not making much sense.. "
I'm not either, but I've seen him win tougher fights.  You mean the arguements that are supported by insulting me, cover art, and fan art? I wonder why "
Yup, those are the ones. I haven't really found a valid counter argument.. and it's becoming more like spidey vs wolvie..
#50 Posted by Valentino (342 posts) - - Show Bio
@Precise said:
" @Valentino said:
" @Precise said:
" @Valentino: Well i'm not saying it would be easy for Wolverine to beat Lizard. But the arguments that are being made by others are not making much sense.. "
I'm not either, but I've seen him win tougher fights.  You mean the arguements that are supported by insulting me, cover art, and fan art? I wonder why "
Yup, those are the ones. I haven't really found a valid counter argument.. and it's becoming more like spidey vs wolvie.. "
I remember seeing the actual thread for that. They didn't reach an outcome. Spidey's side posted impressive strength and speed feats, but then Wolverine's side posts scans of him moving faster than bullets and taking on Colossus and the Thing. Not to mention tagging Northstar.