The Lizard vs Captain America
now they are place in front of each other to see who win and stand victorious.. both at a moderate distance.
both are Caucasian... both are over 6 ft.. one was a military soldier who fought in WW2 and help raise moral... the other was is a lab rat who became the lizard in order to regrow his arm.. transforming him into the savage primal lizard.
Awe inspiring, insightful and informative bio of the two fellows. But it doesn't help much.
now they are place in front of each other to see who win stand victories... both at a moderate distance.
Ahem. How about giving us a hint as to the nature of the location? Is it a city? A valley? A forest?
" The Lizard doesn't stand a chance against Captain America. "thats just being bias.... not a chance? seriously?
" @Vance Astro said:No,it's not just being biased.The Lizard is a terrible fighter in every appearance on any given day.Cap is not.Physical ability means jack sh#t." The Lizard doesn't stand a chance against Captain America. "thats just being bias.... not a chance? seriously?
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0,unless there is a plot device (terrain advantage,Cap is already hurt or not fighting to the best of his ability,he gets the drop on Cap etc.) A 100% Cap,fully aware of whom he's fighting is not losing to the Lizard.Ever.And the Lizard will never get wise to his battle strategy because with Cap's tactical ability and fighting skill his strategy could be something new every time." so how many wins can u see the lizard getting out of 10?
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the lizard could launch onto cap and his most likely response is to shield himself while the lizard is on top of him. how would he fight him off from this position while the lizard is clamping on to the shield?
" both are Caucasian... both are over 6 ft.. one was a military soldier who fought in WW2 and help raise moral... the other was is a lab rat who became the lizard in order to regrow his arm.. transforming him into the savage primal lizard.Smart ass.
Why would he keep his distance? He could easily take the Lizard close range." Depending on how Cpt America keeps his distance form The Liz, but for now i say Lizard "
" @DEADLEAF said:h2h? the lizard's hide is bullet proof it would be near impossible for cap to reach nerve clusters and lizard isnt exactly have a human physiology" Depending on how Cpt America keeps his distance form The Liz, but for now i say Lizard "Why would he keep his distance? He could easily take the Lizard h2h. "
"@castleking said:0,unless there is a plot device (terrain advantage,Cap is already hurt or not fighting to the best of his ability,he gets the drop on Cap etc.) A 100% Cap,fully aware of whom he's fighting is not losing to the Lizard.Ever.And the Lizard will never get wise to his battle strategy because with Cap's tactical ability and fighting skill his strategy could be something new every time. "" so how many wins can u see the lizard getting out of 10?
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actually thats a pretty good point, im a little stuck thu. gonna need more tim to think about this match
" how would cap deal with the dail and claws? lizard can manhandle spidey and he has spidey sense and superhuman reflexes above cap.1.Cap's shield is both offense and defense.He can easily block a claw swipe.
the lizard could launch onto cap and his most likely response is to shield himself while the lizard is on top of him. how owuld he fight him off from this position while the lizard is clamping on to the shield?
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2.The Lizard can manhandle Spidey because he's also a terrible fighter.Cap won't let him get the chance.
3.You're giving the Lizard to much credit in combat.Like most street levelers against someone physically beyond them,Cap is going to try and control the fight.I don't really see how the Lizard will grab his shield or get on top of him (no homo).
instead visualize Cap pushing off him with the shield instead of spidey.
being a terrible fighter doesnt mean it cant fight with the ferociousness of a savage beast.
and he also has a HF and durability way above caps
"kinda how the lizard tends to cling to his opponent like spidey...
instead visualize Cap pushing off him with the shield instead of spidey.
being a terrible fighter doesnt mean it cant fight with the ferociousness of a savage beast.
and he also has a HF and durability way above caps
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yeah caps not as fast a spidy even thu he packs more eqipment. Liz might have the upper hand (just the way i see it)
" I think it'd be a very close call to make, but I'd say that Lizard beats Cap just due to his higher agility, HF, durability and considerably good strength. "Higher agility? When has that ever helped the Lizard against anyone? And what is his durability going to do when he gets smacked in the face with that shield? Nothing,he's going to be unconscious.
@castleking said:
" kinda how the lizard tends to cling to his opponent like spidey...
instead visualize Cap pushing off him with the shield instead of spidey.
being a terrible fighter doesnt mean it cant fight with the ferociousness of a savage beast.
and he also has a HF and durability way above caps
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You keep using Spidey as a measuring stick as if....
A.The Lizard isn't one of HIS rouges
B.Spidey is anything like Captain America.
Why Spidey is even bothering to push off in the first place is beyond me.He's fast enough and a good enough acrobat to get out of the way.The fact Spider-Man has trouble with the Lizard at all is bullsh#t as far as i'm concerned.Being a terrible fighter means that the more feral and ferocious you try to be,the easier it becomes you to make mistakes.Yea,he has durability and healing factor way above Caps...everyone knows that.He doesn't have the durability and healing factor to keep from being knocked out with that shield.
yeah caps not as fast a spidy even thu he packs more eqipment. Liz might have the upper hand (just the way i see it) "Cap doesn't have to be as fast as Spidey to dodge the Lizard.
I'm going to give the majority to Lizard. Cap is going to find it hard to find any pressure points on Lizard's thick skin, which is going to be about the only way Cap can take him down.
" I'm going to give the majority to Lizard. Cap is going to find it hard to find any pressure points on Lizard's thick skin, which is going to be about the only way Cap can take him down. "Why does he need pressure points when hitting the Lizard with the shield will hurt him?
" @Nobody said:Maybe, but probably not enough. Spider-Man was hurting his hand hitting Lizard. I doubt Steve could provide the force needed to cause real damage to him." I'm going to give the majority to Lizard. Cap is going to find it hard to find any pressure points on Lizard's thick skin, which is going to be about the only way Cap can take him down. "Why does he need pressure points when hitting the Lizard with the shield will hurt him? "
" @Vance Astro said:Spider-Man punching someone with his bare fist is different than Cap hitting someone with a vibranium shield.The Lizard isn't THAT durable." @Nobody said:Maybe, but probably not enough. Spider-Man was hurting his hand hitting Lizard. I doubt Steve could provide the force needed to cause real damage to him. "" I'm going to give the majority to Lizard. Cap is going to find it hard to find any pressure points on Lizard's thick skin, which is going to be about the only way Cap can take him down. "Why does he need pressure points when hitting the Lizard with the shield will hurt him? "
" @Nobody said:He is bulletproof though. This has been proven over and over again." @Vance Astro said:Spider-Man punching someone with his bare fist is different than Cap hitting someone with a vibranium shield.The Lizard isn't THAT durable. "" @Nobody said:Maybe, but probably not enough. Spider-Man was hurting his hand hitting Lizard. I doubt Steve could provide the force needed to cause real damage to him. "" I'm going to give the majority to Lizard. Cap is going to find it hard to find any pressure points on Lizard's thick skin, which is going to be about the only way Cap can take him down. "Why does he need pressure points when hitting the Lizard with the shield will hurt him? "
He is bulletproof though. This has been proven over and over again. "So is Iron Man.Did you see what Cap did to his helmet?
If Captain America has fought worse. He might win, but if not. Lizard wins.
Captain America I think is only capable of lifting 800 lbs but could bench press 1100 lbs. I don't think Captain America is fast enough to get a direct hit on Lizard. Lizard is pretty fast and could easily many attacks. Lizard most likely has more advantages in this fight. Strength, Speed, and Agility. Plus the fact Lizard heals very quick right away. So Lizard is likely to win. However either of them could win but the only way I can see Captain America winning is if he throws his shield and is it fast enough to hit Lizard because Lizard dodges very quick also if its strong enough to hurt Lizard. If so Captain America wins.
"Everyone knows their difference in physical ability.If Captain America has fought worse. He might win, but if not. Lizard wins.
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Captain America I think is only capable of lifting 800 lbs but could bench press 1100 lbs. I don't think Captain America is fast enough to get a direct hit on Lizard. Lizard is pretty fast and could easily many attacks. Lizard most likely has more advantages in this fight. Strength, Speed, and Agility. Plus the fact Lizard heals very quick right away. So Lizard is likely to win. However either of them could win but the only way I can see Captain America winning is if he throws his shield and is it fast enough to hit Lizard because Lizard dodges very quick also if its strong enough to hurt Lizard. If so Captain America wins.
" i could see cap giving a decent right hook with the shield and dislodging lizard's jaw for a few seconds but not enough to matter in this fight. since he will still have his clawsI think he can knock the Lizard out.
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I'm with vance here. +bulletproof does not mean invulnerable. Blunt force trauma could cause internal bleeding and broken bones and Cap is such a good fighter. Remember back to Civil war when spidey fought cap the first time. Spidey says that cap tagged him like 3 times in 10 seconds and cap wasnt even really fighting, just sizing spidey up.
Unless Lizard has his mind Cap takes him. Cap is to good of an ofensive/defensive fighter plus his agility and the shield. It won't be easy. But I think Cap takes him.
If Lizard has his mind then I think it is a toss up.
" Unless Lizard has his mind Cap takes him. Cap is to good of an ofensive/defensive fighter plus his agility and the shield. It won't be easy. But I think Cap takes him. If Lizard has his mind then I think it is a toss up. "Cap takes him either way.Conners is a scientist not a martial artist.Cap makes people who actually have martial arts knowledge look stupid.He'd embarrass the Lizard.
True true...but what I am saying is with his mind it's not mindless attacks. Also by no means does a toss up mean Cap has no chance. I am saying I think the speed the Lizard with rational mind might help but necssarily cause him to win.
" that b/c most are just human with olympic or peak human attributes just in one or two areas while cap is peak/superhuman all aroundThat has nothing to do with what I said.
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" @Nobody said:Iron man was screwed to PIS during that whole era. Spider-Man ripped his mask off like it was nothing too.He is bulletproof though. This has been proven over and over again. "So is Iron Man.Did you see what Cap did to his helmet? "
This is a serious question not a dig at your or you position. But even if it is PIS does it not count? It did happen.
" @Nobody: This is a serious question not a dig at your or you position. But even if it is PIS does it not count? It did happen. "Yes it happened. But that doesn't mean it should happen again.
Spider-Man ripped his mask off like it was nothing too. "Yea,but he hurt himself when he punched it.And he was "The Other" at the time.
Iron man was screwed to PIS during that whole era.No,he wasn't.Iron Man was at his best after Extremis.
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this isnt even a match. Steve has straight up humiliated Lizards equal+ endlessly
through his long history and in scores at a time.
" @Nobody said:I don't recall him beating him.Spider-Man ripped his mask off like it was nothing too. "Yea,but he hurt himself when he punched it.And he was "The Other" at the time. "
@Vance Astro said:
" @Nobody said:Iron man was screwed to PIS during that whole era.No,he wasn't.Iron Man was at his best after Extremis. "
Maybe in his own title. But he was punked in anything else.
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