Who wins?
The Living Tribunal Vs Elder God Demonbane
@mysticmedivh: Stomps figures of this level for a living. You could take Multi-Eternity, Death, White Crown Phoenix and LT in the same room, and EGD would mash them all into stew.
@mysticmedivh: Stomps figures of this level for a living. You could take Multi-Eternity, Death, White Crown Phoenix and LT in the same room, and EGD would mash them all into stew.
Sounds powerful, is there a respect thread for his feats though? I'm curious.
@mysticmedivh: Should be somewhere, or any of his major battle threads. EGD is a faint notch below Azathoth, who is TOAA of the Demonbane series. Everything that is and shall be, is just Azathoth's dream. Including Nyarlathotep, Yog-Sothoth and the entirety of the Court of Azathoth. Which manifests as all the Great Old Ones and Outer Gods and basically everything you can think of from the Lovecraftian series.
The likes of Nya are made out to be omniversal, and EGD defeated her 400million times with a glare. Lesser forms of Demonbane, like Mars Demonbane, were literally galloping across multiverses while fighting. Ultimately that meant little since he could become as large as the omniverse if he wanted. Which is still nothing since he exists outside of it from all Creation and Chaos.
One of EGD's most ludicrous attacks involves unlocking the Shining Trapezohedron, which had been used to imprison the Court of Azathoth. With it he can literally summon infinite incarnations of himself from all infinite realities and infinite times, from every infinite moment. So basically like an omniverse of Demonbane's being summoned all at once to converge on a single target.
Like this he uses an attack called Lemuria Impact Ain Soph Aur, in which case all of these infinite infinite EGD attack all at once with the Lemuria Impact. The Lemuria Impact was literally the 2nd ability Demonbane unlocked near the beginning and is an attack that traps the target in a field and annihilates them by limitless force of infinite heat, infinite gravity and infinite mass. Essentially it's an attack of total annihilation and is capable of destroying a universe. And this was at Demonbane's base levels, long before Elder God status.
So the variation with Ain Soph Aur is basically InfinityXInfinity of that, but leagues more powerful. It's almost silly really since the Shining Trapezohedron is already capable of wiping out multiverses with just a swing and can erase targets from existence on contact. When Demonbane and Therion clashed with each of theirs, infinite universes were created/destroyed as a side effect, which had no effect on Nyarlathotep who walked across it all unconcerned.
Of course that got turned around when Demonbane absorbed the power of both Shining Trapezohedra and spanked her with it. Demonbane is literally a walking plot-device of ridiculous proportions, which fits with the very title being "Deus Machina Demonbane"
@reikai: Wrong.....
Azathoth wasn't even omnipotent
Elder God Demonbane by fact is about what multiverse level?
Pretty sure the shining works in his verse
Living tribunal official databook puts him at a higher status then the entire demonbane verse Fully omnipresent+Nigh-Omniscient+Nigh-Omnipotent the only thing LT has to do is bust his entire verse as Lat held 2 Megaverse beings (Brothers yin-yang) and even shut down the IG which was universe level at best you seriously wank the demonbane verse....
@beyondergod: All is Azathoth's dream. Of course he's omniscient. He just doesn't care to involve himself. There's no reason for him to. You don't operate on facts, but your own delusional BS. These matters have already been decided and done dozens of times over. Why you continue the same line of crap as those who keep throwing teams of DC figures at Thanos is honestly just sad and pointless.
Others already agree Demonbane wins. As it is the same with all those Old threads you kept bumping for no reason whatsoever. Nothing has changed.
EGD has better feats.
@reikai: Living Tribunal Databook > your bs statements
Azatoth: "Also known as the stupid blind god." <= Implied it lacks omniscience.
EGD has better feats.
@reikai: Living Tribunal Databook > your bs statements
Azatoth: "Also known as the stupid blind god." <= Implied it lacks omniscience.
...no: implying nyarlthotep knows azathoth doesn't care about the existence or it's statements.
And azathoth is > nyarlthotep by an entire level. If hulk says living tribunal is stupid, it doesn't make him stupid.
@saint_sophie said:
EGD has better feats.
Both have really good feats.
Though Demonbane has more hex.
what company puts out this charahter,I know nothing about him.This Demonbane,is he the ruler of some multi-verse in an independent company,sorry I am a marvel zombie!
@princearagorn1: Demonbane still gets stomped....
@princearagorn1: Demonbane still gets stomped....
unless the thread added someone, no. He has far more impressive feats.
What feats does Demonbane even have?
Killing nyarlthotep and sealing the court of azathoth.
@princearagorn1: Yes, but I'd like more quantifiable explanations so that somebody who hasn't read Lovecraft's works might be able to understand the feats.
@princearagorn1: Yes, but I'd like more quantifiable explanations so that somebody who hasn't read Lovecraft's works might be able to understand the feats.
Nyarlathotep is a being that creates multiverse(s), it's constantly surrounded by birth and death of infinite universes. Demonbane killed her - with a glare.
Nyarl is just a messenger for the old ones - that's how powerful they are. I'm not an expert on lovecraft either, so maybe someone else can clarify it better.
@princearagorn1: Not sure if that is necessarily well above the LT's class as is being implied here. Eternity is multiversal in power, and IG users could dismiss him and humiliate him with a click of their fingers. The Living Tribunal could negate the powers of the Infinity Gauntlet. The Tribunal should be at least comparable.
I am japanese and have played/read all series, even D.Y.N Freaks. but I must admit that Demonbane is highly overrated.
In D.Y.N Freaks,Avatar of nyarlathotep is very weak jobber, and It was implied that infinite universe (not megaverse,omniverse) and Outer Gods is destroyed by fallen Demonbane who is Antimonitor level.
Demonbaneverse is multiverse
@princearagorn1: Not sure if that is necessarily well above the LT's class as is being implied here. Eternity is multiversal in power, and IG users could dismiss him and humiliate him with a click of their fingers. The Living Tribunal could negate the powers of the Infinity Gauntlet. The Tribunal should be at least comparable.
Actually, living tribunal couldn't take away the IG without destroying the reality - if adam wanted to fight him.
@princearagorn1: That seemed more like PIS than anything else, to be honest. He was concerned about having to destroy reality in a battle with Adam, and he couldn't simply depower the the gauntlet itself, but the gems he could depower effortlessly.
@princearagorn1: That seemed more like PIS than anything else, to be honest. He was concerned about having to destroy reality in a battle with Adam, and he couldn't simply depower the the gauntlet itself, but the gems he could depower effortlessly.
why would it be PIS?
@princearagorn1: Pretty sure LT faced Protege and absorbed him and protege was above him and if protege faced elder god demonbane he would just copy his abilities.
@princearagorn1: Pretty sure LT faced Protege and absorbed him and protege was above him and if protege faced elder god demonbane he would just copy his abilities.
eh, protege failed to copy scathan.
@princearagorn1: Wasn't LT above scathan?......
@princearagorn1: Wasn't LT above scathan?......
And how do you get that?
Demonbaneverse is at best multiverse.
It was implied in D.Y.N Freakas that Demonbaneverse has infinite universe and is reduced to only one universe by fallen Demonbane aka God of voltex destruction in beterugius(ベテルギウスの渦動破壊神)
Writer of D.Y.N Freaks is Jin Haganeya aka Writer of Demonbane series.This is sequel to Demonbane.
PS: Why demonbane sealed all Evil God is only by PIS, power of plot. If Demonbane is stronger than Living Tribunal, Cosmic Armor Superman is far stronger than TOAA, because in Morrison's view, Story of Superman is far greater than Comic Book and even author.
@princearagorn1: @shootingnova: Let's look at another figure. We have Yog-Sothoth, the "All-In-One", the "One-In-All", the Gate and the Key, the Guardian of Time and Space. He exists everywhere at all times in every reality, and all are part of him. He appears as...well, whatever form he chooses, though his "true form" is that of an amorpheous mass of multicolored spheres.
Each of his molecules is an entire multiverse, and his body is infinite in size and scale. His domain connects to every moment in time and reality, to all actualities. Yet the very concepts of time, space and reality have no meaning to Outer Gods like himself, and he is equal in status to Nyarlathotep. Nya who creates infinite multiverses contained within Klein Bottles for her own playing and amusement.
One could mistakenly believe Yog-Sothoth to be TOAA if it weren't for the fact that he, Nya and the rest, are nothing more than part of Azathoth's dream. And while Nya may be sometimes referred to as a messenger for the Outer Gods, that doesn't make her lower on the totem pole. She just likes to be more active and direct, whereas Yog just doesn't seem to give a F**k. Maybe he picked that up from Azathoth.
@princearagorn1: Wasn't LT above scathan?......
And how do you get that?
I recall there being some context to the living tribunal and protegee thing. Maybe @killemall can clarify. He doesn't seem to be online these days though except for occasional visits.
Not saying living tribunal loses or wins here though.
@princearagorn1: Lt has Full omnipresence...nigh-omniscience/omnipotence so he is far above scathan.
@reikai: Noone mistakes yog for TOAA in any way no one in H.P lovecraft/Demonbane verse are omnipotent....low-mid nigh Omnis yes..omnis no....
@beyondergod: Aren't you being biased in your own thread?
Many call it PIS, but what happened was Protege copied LT's powers and summoned Scathan to defeat LT.
@johnfrank120: Biased=Bad Debater
I will I admit I hate kami tenchi fans because of a certain user.
@beyondergod: But you aren't really supposed to take sides in your own debate.
@johnfrank120: I know both sides.
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