The Juggernaut vs The Sentry

"the human Juggernaut said:

"i never said it was moving at light speed.   Juggernaut doesn't even need superhuman reflexes to use the forcefield.  Its on when he wants it to be on.  He doesn't have to push a button or anything."

The point of reflexes is being able to think and react accordingly to an attack. If he doesn't have quick reflexes, he cannot think fast enough to use his force field before Sentry blitzes him. Do you not know what it means to have superhuman reflexes? He has to think to use it. falls under the same category."

If Sentry can't hurt Juggernaut..nobody wins.

"the human Juggernaut said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Vendel said:

"Static Shock said:Static Shock said:

If the Hammer was moving at light speed, he wouldn't have been able to stop the Hammer with his force field. Plain and simple.

His forcefield would have stopped it. If your saying he wouldn't have it on. Why not? Juggernaut is just using the full extent of his powers etc etc etc blah blah blah.


Juggernatu wins."

Juggernaut doesn't win just because he has a forcefield.Sentry broke the bands of Cyttorak and Doom's Forcefield..a forcefield that people more powerful than Juggernaut failed to break."

...and the bands held galactus... you don't understand how the bands work."

F#ck the bands..the forcefield is what I am getting at."

"His forcefield would have stopped it. If your saying he wouldn't have it on. Why not? Juggernaut is just using the full extent of his powers etc etc etc blah blah blah.

"If Sentry can't hurt Juggernaut..nobody wins."

Juggernaut doesn't win just because he has a forcefield.Sentry broke the bands of Cyttorak and Doom's Forcefield..a forcefield that people more powerful than Juggernaut failed to break."

"Vance Astro said:

"the human Juggernaut said:

"Vance Astro said:

"Vendel said:

"Static Shock said:Static Shock said:

If the Hammer was moving at light speed, he wouldn't have been able to stop the Hammer with his force field. Plain and simple.

His forcefield would have stopped it. If your saying he wouldn't have it on. Why not? Juggernaut is just using the full extent of his powers etc etc etc blah blah blah.


Juggernatu wins."

Juggernaut doesn't win just because he has a forcefield.Sentry broke the bands of Cyttorak and Doom's Forcefield..a forcefield that people more powerful than Juggernaut failed to break."

...and the bands held galactus... you don't understand how the bands work."

F#ck the bands..the forcefield is what I am getting at."

sentry has zero ability in magic.  He can't break the forcefield."

"right, because he would be instantly in space....

seriously static, your just pulling at straws here."

"Unless Sentry can pull out a magic spell to break Juggernaut's defenses then he isn't getting though. It's as simple as that. The same force field which can sap him of any speed he may have. Thus you have a Sentry that can barely move and can't hit Juggernaut.

"Vance Astro said:

Juggernaut doesn't win just because he has a forcefield.Sentry broke the bands of Cyttorak and Doom's Forcefield..a forcefield that people more powerful than Juggernaut failed to break."

Unless Sentry can pull out a magic spell to break Juggernaut's defenses then he isn't getting though. It's as simple as that. The same force field which can sap him of any speed he may have. Thus you have a Sentry that can barely move and can't hit Juggernaut.


Juggernaut wins. Easily."

"Vendel said:

"Unless Sentry can pull out a magic spell to break Juggernaut's defenses then he isn't getting though. It's as simple as that. The same force field which can sap him of any speed he may have. Thus you have a Sentry that can barely move and can't hit Juggernaut.

Didn't I just get through saying he doesn't intially have the force field up?"

"Vendel said:

"Unless Sentry can pull out a magic spell to break Juggernaut's defenses then he isn't getting though. It's as simple as that. The same force field which can sap him of any speed he may have. Thus you have a Sentry that can barely move and can't hit Juggernaut.

Didn't I just get through saying he doesn't intially have the force field up?"

"and why woudn't it be up?  If sentry can just try to blitz-bfr him, then juggernaut can have his force field up at the start of the fight too."

"He doesn't intially have it up. He had to turn it on it battle against Thor, didn't he? And, Juggernaut wouldn't have been able to stop a Hammer moving at light speed (I guess Juggernaut has light-speed reflexes right? This argument sounds familiar). Thus, he would have gotten hit by it. And even with the Force Field, Sentry could still blitz him, but uproot the ground under him and toss him away"

"BFR would be a reasonable way of Sentry taking down Juggernaut down here...
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And Sentry doesn't use his super speed nearly as much as he does in these fights.

Either everybody's going all out and using their abilities in the best ways possible or both of them are acting like they are in the comics.

You can't say Juggernaut won't have his forcefield up but Sentry will immediately throw Juggernaut into the sun.  That's silly."

"Zoom said:

And Sentry doesn't use his super speed nearly as much as he does in these fights.

Either everybody's going all out and using their abilities in the best ways possible or both of them are acting like they are in the comics.

You can't say Juggernaut won't have his forcefield up but Sentry will immediately throw Juggernaut into the sun.  That's silly."

He can have the force field up and still be BFRed."

"King Saturn said:

"BFR would be a reasonable way of Sentry taking down Juggernaut down here...
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we've demonstrated that he would be unable to do it..."

Is this regular juggs or trion juggs?

"Is this regular juggs or trion juggs?"

"no, as soon as sentry gets close, he gets his momentum taken away."

"the human Juggernaut said:

"no, as soon as sentry gets close, he gets his momentum taken away."

The force field only extends a foot in diameter. Sentry doesn't have to get too close to him. He could uproot the ground under Juggs several feet in diameter and toss him away still."

"and he can just jump off it.  He could also just smash it once he sees sentry go under ground.  Keep pulling at straws."

"the human Juggernaut said:

"and he can just jump off it.  He could also just smash it once he sees sentry go under ground.  Keep pulling at straws."

I'm not. You're being ridiculous."

"yea, when things don't go your way, say the person you are debating is being ridiculous.  Great tactic."

He's gotta point. Juggs would be way too slow to avoid anything. Sentry beats him. 

"He's gotta point. Juggs would be way too slow to avoid anything. Sentry beats him. "

"He's gotta point. Juggs would be way too slow to avoid anything. Sentry beats him. "

"the human Juggernaut said:

"yea, when things don't go your way, say the person you are debating is being ridiculous.  Great tactic."

Yeah, and you told me I was pulling straws when I wasn't. To each his own, I guess. Hypocrisy at it's finest. And, besides, every body else seems to agree with me. You and Vendel don't. Majority rules, so it's almost like saying things have already gone my way. LOL."

"you're kidding, right?"

"the human Juggernaut said:

"you're kidding, right?"

I'm not. Unless you wanna sit here and tell me you and Vendel weren't the only ones backing Juggernaut."

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When has Juggernaut ever shown the ability to freeze an opponent in place? I saw the scan of Mjolnir, but has he ever used it on a person?

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Well, you'd think he would have demonstrated this ability before. It sure would have come in handy in his fight against... well, anyone he's ever fought. Certainly Hulk, for instance. I've never seen him slow an opponent down. Never seen him lessen the blows an adversary has hit him with by stealing momentum or anything like that. If that was the case, people would never get his helmet off.

"Well, you'd think he would have demonstrated this ability before. It sure would have come in handy in his fight against... well, anyone he's ever fought. Certainly Hulk, for instance. I've never seen him slow an opponent down. Never seen him lessen the blows an adversary has hit him with by stealing momentum or anything like that. If that was the case, people would never get his helmet off."

Yes, but it's well within the scope of his powers to do so. We know he can fly at much greater than escape velocity, and he certainly has the strength to lift a huge portion of earth. I don't think it is within Juggernaut's scope of power to freeze an opponent in place, since he has never displayed any such ability.

"Yes, but it's well within the scope of his powers to do so. We know he can fly at much greater than escape velocity, and he certainly has the strength to lift a huge portion of earth. I don't think it is within Juggernaut's scope of power to freeze an opponent in place, since he has never displayed any such ability."

No, it doesn't, since the hammer hits him/his forcefield, then returns to Thor. It was not frozen in place. All this proves is that the forcefield blocks/repels things, which is the whole point of a forcefield.

"Is this regular juggs or trion juggs?"

"No, it doesn't, since the hammer hits him/his forcefield, then returns to Thor. It was not frozen in place. All this proves is that the forcefield blocks/repels things, which is the whole point of a forcefield

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<<<read the dialogue there.  A forcefield wouldn't slowly slow something down, it would just stop mjolnir upon impact.

Tell me again what is going to stop Sentry, who can fly much faster than the speed of light, from grabbing Juggernaut before he can even think and tossing him into space?

"Tell me again what is going to stop Sentry, who can fly much faster than the speed of light, from grabbing Juggernaut before he can even think and tossing him into space?"

Even in the Earths atmosphere Sentry can travelfast enough that within the battlefield he could attack Juggs before Juggs neural impulses could tell him somehting was going on. This forcefield didnt stop Hulk from grabbing him? Didnt leave Hulk frozen?

"Even in the Earths atmosphere Sentry can travelfast enough that within the battlefield he could attack Juggs before Juggs neural impulses could tell him somehting was going on. This forcefield didnt stop Hulk from grabbing him? Didnt leave Hulk frozen?"

"so you admit that you can't say how sentry would win, he just would because more people on this thread said "sentry wins"?  nice."

"Even in the Earths atmosphere Sentry can travelfast enough that within the battlefield he could attack Juggs before Juggs neural impulses could tell him somehting was going on. This forcefield didnt stop Hulk from grabbing him? Didnt leave Hulk frozen?"

There are some major holes in your argument Juggernaut

"There are some major holes in your argument Juggernaut"

"Lunacyde said:

"Even in the Earths atmosphere Sentry can travelfast enough that within the battlefield he could attack Juggs before Juggs neural impulses could tell him somehting was going on. This forcefield didnt stop Hulk from grabbing him? Didnt leave Hulk frozen?"

I don't even recall him using it against the Hulk, but I do remember Hulk picking him up by his helmet and tossing him away."