The Jedi God vs ROTS Sidious and Yoda

You know who I am talking about right?

Morals off. Geonosis Battle Arena

Can he solo?!

I am not too knowledgeable tbh on how Luke would fare against these two. I mean, he could overpower them easily if they were alone, but let's see him take on the two best Jedi/Sith of the Clone Wars..

I will try to edit and make it more fair if it's too one-sided.

You can use EU feats.

Movie picture = Movie Luke.

Caedus doesn't exist because he's non-canon. Plagueis was only mentioned so he's featless.

Palps already roasted Luke so he solos.

Luke gets stomped.

Am I doing it right?

@i_like_swords: Thank you for your wisdom!

There is no way Luke is winning this.

All 4 of these guys would given him a decent challenge alone, together he's not taking them. I would say, Caedus and Palpatine by themselves could be enough, the rest is just icing on the cake.

@dccomicsrule2011: Hmm. Alright I'll take Caedus and Plagueis out.

Luke still loses. Palpatine alone is a competitor with Luke, being in the same tier in virtually every single category except for raw power and telekinesis, but Luke is not ragdolling him. Adding Yoda only adds to Luke's trouble. Yoda is on a similar tier regarding speed, strength and skill, and his power showings are equivalent to Palpatine's as per Mysteries of the Jedi.

Luke would lose every time.

@dccomicsrule2011: @shootingnova: If Luke could go into oneness and he faces the original four I had in my OP, would this be spite in the other direction or would he still have no chance?

@spartankobe: You're essentially asking if the original four could beat the Force. That's really what Oneness is.

Luke would already barely win over sidious, and with yoda added them it'd tip the scales in their favor, it mite be a decent fight, but in the end sidious and yoda should come out on top every time, and if they didn't then it'd be like 1 time they didnt, and that'd be because got over confident ( some how ). Anyway that is my opinion, of course things can change it depending on the evidence that is shown.

If this was EU Luke, it would be different. Movie Luke doesn't stand a chance.

@mrunsmiley: You can use EU feats if you want.

Then Luke stomps. EU Luke was capable of insane feats that ROTS Sidious and Yoda haven't been shown to be capable of, such as creating physical copies of objects using the Force, and Electric Judgment.

@mrunsmiley: I was actually thinking he could take on those original four I had but nova and dc said that they would wreck him. >.>

I thought GM Luke could easily overpower one.

Now I'm confused as to how powerful he is. lol

GM Luke, compared to the movies, might as well be Silver-Age Superman.

EU Luke would not stomp both Palpatine and Yoda from the EU at once. Luke has plenty of powers they haven't displayed (I could bring up more as well, such as utilizing Fold Space and Mnemotherapy), but not only does that not warrant a victory in of itself, but Palpatine has powers Luke has never shown, such as utilizing Drain on twenty billion beings at once, or utilizing Wormholes to annihilate fleets and tear off the surface of planets.

Luke would beat either individually, but he would not beat both at once. For Palpatine, Luke is only slightly more skilful, roughly equal in speed, and superior in raw power (especially in areas such as telekinesis, which are pertinent to a fight). For Yoda, Luke is, again, only slightly more skilful, but is slightly superior in speed and again, superior in raw power, and this time by an even greater degree. He would have moderate to high levels of difficulty with Yoda, and a considerable amount of difficulty with Palpatine. Both of them would beat him every single time.

Am i missing something by the fact GM Luke would lose a battle from rots Sidious and Yoda ?

Luke , the guy that undirectly said to be twice as powerfull as Sidious ?

Numbers don't matter in a jedi-fight, as seen in dozens of Star Wars fights ...

Examples :

Anakin and Kenobi would beat Dooku faster then anakin on his own ...

Savage and Maul would defeat Kenobi faster then Maul alone, but Maul did it better alone .Windu, tin, fit and that other dude calculated toghetter are a bigger power force than Sidious but Sidious still old his own and even killed 3 of them .

Anakin and Kenobi fighting Ventress and barely managing to defeat her while Kenobi or Anakin on their own can .

I am not an expert on GM Luke but i don't think numbers matter that much meaning GM Luke would easily win this .

Luke Skywalker sense a conflict and disturbance of the Force! Even in you!

No seriously I dont think he can 1v2 such strong opponents.

@shootingnova: Woh woh wait. This is ROTS Sidious isn't it?

Didn't he do that stuff AFTER ROTJ?

If this was Grand Master Luke he would probably stomp :P

@spartankobe: I was using an example. DE Palpatine is still inferior to Luke, but he has displayed powers Luke hasn't.

That aside, I still view my assessment of the fight the same way.

Team 9-10/10

Nobody who claimed Luke would stomp has provided any evidence or even reasoning to suggest he would. He might be able to win, at best, but not stomp.

Yoda and Sidious fought near even. Luke was fried by Sidious one time and many years later said it still affected him and crippled him somehow. Anyone fighting both alone would be suicide.

If he had even a small amount of backup it would help, but none... that's a 0% chance of him surviving, 10% chance of him escaping, and a 30% chance of him not crapping his pants. Those 2 could probably take down abeloth.