The Istari vs Death eaters and Voldemort

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#51  Edited By Arathorn_II

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@thc said:

Where is this evidence that points to Istari stomping with ease?

Please, enlighten me. And don't say "Voldemort's magic wouldn't harm them." Feats > claims

When Maiar take physical form, their powers are overall severely crippled. In addition, when they die in physical form, their overall power in spiritual form permanently decreased, as evidenced after Sauron died during the fall of Numenor.

Voldemort isn't a Maiar in physical form, he's a human with insanely powerful capabilities. This is comparable to Fingolfin taking on Morgoth in single combat; only Voldemort is hundreds if not thousands of times more powerful than Fingolfin, and Gandalf is hundreds if not thousands of times less powerful than Morgoth.

Fighting the Balrog... yes... Gandalf had extreme difficulty with that. Voldemort, on the other hand, would be intent on twisting it to his will, making it his own weapon.

If Voldemort wanted to kill the beast, there's absolutelynothing indicating a simple Avada Kedavra would fail.

If, by chance, it somehow did fail, he could win with another single thought by apparating Durin's Bane say, to the bottom of the ocean, or miles into the air, letting it crash down to its death. Gandalf visibly effected Durin's Bane with simple lightning strikes and simple swings of his Elf-crafted sword; Voldemort would one-shot Durin's Bane.

The Istari better, stronger and wiser beings then simple wizards. Saruman for example created a new race. Gandalf killed a Balrog. Radagast can talk to animals (This is just a really small point, but Voldemort can only talk to snakes). They're Maiar. Angelic beings with immens power. There was a reason they were send to Middle-Earth instead of some other Maiar. And now you can come up with some reasons Voldemort and his Death-Eaters would beat the Istari.

You're right that their powers are crippled, but this doesn't mean he's weak. They're still strong enough to take out immense enemy's (like a Balrog).

Voldemort indeed isn't a Maiar which could exactly be his downfall. Gandalf can come back after his physical form is destroyed. If he doesn't he still exist. Voldemorts physical body can also be destroyed if he has his Horcroxus. After that he still has his spiritual body. The difference is that if the Horcroxus are destroyed Voldemort is permanently dead. Whereas Gandalf keeps living.

Why do you think Voldemort is able to twist the will of a Balrog? He's not just simple muggles or wizards. He's a Maia. I don't think Voldemort is able to bend the will of such a powerfull creature.

There's absolutely nothing that indicates a simple Avada Kedavra can kill shadow and fire.

Durin's Bane was visibly effected because he was fighting for days and I also don't recall Voldemort having Elf-crafted sword.