Ok, I know this has already been argued, and despite my love of Ben Grimm, I acknowledge all things being equal, Ben looses this fight. Hulk just keeps getting stronger and stronger. However, I'm curious what people think would be the outcome with an equalizer that gives Ben a better fighting chance, but does not completely tip the scales in his favor. So here is my list of the scenario, the equalizer. and assumptions I'm making based on what I've read in past comics. Feel free to debate any that you feel are inaccurate. I'm genuinely curious about people's opinion on this.
Scenario: Ben Grimm vs the Hulk in an abandoned construction site. Also it's raining just cause that makes it seem more dramatic.
Equalizer: A nifty little MacGuffin device that Reed made for Ben. A type of grenade that'll supress the Hulk's ability to get stronger as he gets angrier for approximately 8 hours.
Assumption 1.) Even at baseline, Hulk is stronger and more durable than Ben. Ben's beefed up considerable over the years and seems to slowly get stronger as time goes on. but he doesn't seem to make the massive leaps forward that other characters do. I'm guessing at this point he's a solid Class-90 strength and has pulled off the occasional Class-100 feat where as Hulk is easily Class-100 even baseline and probably higher. The question is is that Strength and Durability advantage something that Ben can over come and that brings me to assumption 2.
Assumption 2.) Ben is a better fighter than the Hulk. I feel like this has been pretty well established in comics that Ben is more skilled fighter of the two. He's been surpassed by more than just a few of Marvel's super strong characters in raw strength but I think it's fair to say that he's among the most capable fighters among Marvel's 'strong men' and is only significantly outclassed in this area by the Gods and Demigods like Thor or Hercules.
So what do you think? If Ben were able to neutralize the Hulk's ability to keep growing stronger does he have the skill to manage a victory or do you think Hulk's advantages even at Baseline are too much for the ever lovin' blue eyed, Thing to hand?
The Hulk vs. The Thing (with Stipulations)
"@Hellos said:"Hulk curbstomps. "Um No The thing has better fighting skills and Hulks rage can't help him here so.... "
I don't care about the Thing's fighting skills.
The Hulk still is vastly more powerful physically and so is his boy.
Even if you take away the ability to steadily increase their strength the Hulk and Skaar are well above Ben.
Ben would have turned into rubble tanking a 100 trillion ton punch like that.
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Finally!!! A Thing vs Hulk battle that the Thing wins! At last!!! Without his ace-in-the-hole power to increase his strength with his anger, the Hulk will get beat by Ben. Ben is the better fighter and he has the kind of heart/resolve that almost no one can match; certainly not the Hulk. "
Agreed - and well said.
Ben can win this. Take into consideration that Hulk is basically being knocked down to levels he was at in the past.
While Thing, on the other hand, has gotten stronger than he used to be ... back when he still showed heart and held his own with Hulk in their past battles.
Welcome to the Vine (scarbearer)
Curent Hulk stomps.
Hes tougher, stronger, smarter(access to banners intelect) and has access to bannertech (an old power tazer(attacks measure on richter scale 3.4was the most I saw), shield, teleporter and this wonderful invention that shuts down all electronics not shielded by banner)
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