The Gorgon vs The Midnighter

Could this mutant beat the Midnighter without using his powers to turn people to stone?

Gorgon:

Ability to turn humans to stone. Superhuman strength, speed, stamina, agility, and reflexes. Regenerative healing factor, telepathy, teleportation.

Genius level intellect in multiple areas

Midnighter:

Enhanced physical attributes such as strength, speed, stamina, agility and reflexes. Able to anticipate the moves of his opponents. Healing factor witht he ability to turn off pain receptors.

Good 'fight' was thinking of posting myself. Gorgon would merc the hell out of Midnighter. He would know his movements before he does and Gorgon moves at the speed of thought, so he can cope if not outclass Midnighter there.

Logic Mark III says:

"Good 'fight' was thinking of posting myself. Gorgon would merc the hell out of Midnighter. He would know his movements before he does and Gorgon moves at the speed of thought, so he can cope if not outclass Midnighter there."

Don't forget, the Midnighter can move at superspeeds fro brief moments.

But gorgon can read M's predictions and get a fair ground in the battle

"But gorgon can read M's predictions and get a fair ground in the battle"

"Nerx said:

"But gorgon can read M's predictions and get a fair ground in the battle"

They would be on even ground. "

"Alpha said:

"Nerx said:

"But gorgon can read M's predictions and get a fair ground in the battle"

They would be on even ground. "

In the Authority comic, Regis beat Midnighter and he had enahnced stats but also telepthy.As long as Gorgon's telepathy is advanaced enough to fully read a person's mind, then he un theory overcome the Midnighter's tactical computer and plan his attack based on the information he is getting from Midnighters head."

He actually could. I do have some questions though. His telepathy seems undefined. If he could read the minds of his enemies, how was Wolverine able to trick him into turning himself to stone? Wouldn't he have seen that coming since Wolverine was planning on doing it, or am I missing something? Why wouldn't Midnighter's ability be able to anticipate Gorgon's psychic abilities and make plans on that? (Regis beat him with the help of TP, but Regis was also way out of his league and I don't think someone on Wolverine's level is, but then again, I don't know the Gorgon.) What is the extent of his teleportation? I see it listed on a few sources but not described. (I don't think it would matter too much if Midnighter can predict where he reappears, but I still would like to know.) I kind of think Midnighter could turn him to stone too with any of the metal weapons he carries on himself. 

"He actually could. I do have some questions though. His telepathy seems undefined. If he could read the minds of his enemies, how was Wolverine able to trick him into turning himself to stone? Wouldn't he have seen that coming since Wolverine was planning on doing it, or am I missing something? Why wouldn't Midnighter's ability be able to anticipate Gorgon's psychic abilities and make plans on that? (Regis beat him with the help of TP, but Regis was also way out of his league and I don't think someone on Wolverine's level is, but then again, I don't know the Gorgon.) What is the extent of his teleportation? I see it listed on a few sources but not described. (I don't think it would matter too much if Midnighter can predict where he reappears, but I still would like to know.) I kind of think Midnighter could turn him to stone too with any of the metal weapons he carries on himself. 

Unrelated: I always think of Gorgon and Morlun together (or against each other?). Maybe it's the skin tone, nice clothes and long black hair.

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The Beserker rage thing/Weapon X training/Living in a house of telepaths might be the reason Wolverine managed to give Gorgon the alley oop.

This is a damn good fight.

"This is a damn good fight. "

" @StrongestOneThereIs: Seeing as nobody said that MN packs reflective goods then it goes to Gorgon"

I kind of think Midnighter could turn him to stone too with any of the metal weapons he carries on himself. 

 

If he can't fool Gorgon into looking into his own reflection how does he achieve this? Also who says he will be that close? He doesn't even need to use his stoney stare, he is perfectly capable of battering Midnighter.

50-50 , MN's pole staff could reflect and the surface is wider that Wolvie's Claw

Gorgon has this one in the bag, His combat abilities are enough to take down Midnighter, his ability to turn ppl into stone wouldn't even come into play.  As far as MN tricking him into seeing his own reflection, thats abit difficult when Gorgon wears a blindfold.

The Gorgon. Slaughterhouse.

"a billion scenarios wont help you when you have to settle on a single attack to execute........ a mind reader like gorgon can still attack and counter... this BS ability has gotten out of hand.  their are numerous beings with a similar ability with on board computer tech with probable attacks  counter adaptive upgrade attacks, files that have recorded every style on the planet and ppl... is is just as pointless as midnighter its BS and blown out of proportion... com systems that regulate the most efficient and optimal attack angle and response... midnighters ability is nothing special and ppl need to stop over exaggerating it... i blame one main person of this on this board for what he has ppl thinking about midnighter."

How fast is the gorgon?

" How fast is the gorgon? "

"i dont want to say i feel like i'll be banned if i say the name....  :("

" @castleking said:

"i dont want to say i feel like i'll be banned if i say the name....  :("

so you want to say buckshot? "

Gorgon

"@the human Juggernaut said:

" @castleking said:

"i dont want to say i feel like i'll be banned if i say the name....  :("

so you want to say buckshot? "

i didnt say that"

Gorgon is good but his only edge is limited, Telepath and Stone stare... he should do it and kill MN quick (no fooling around with MN unless you are invulnerable)

I wouldn't say that. He has a healthy degree of invulnerability/immortality, super strength, incredible speed and martial arts prowess that overhwelmed Wolverine and Elektra.

Midnighter gouges out his eyes breaks his neck

I mean MN vs Gorgon is good but what about The Gorgon vs Mr.X?

link:
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/mister-x-vs-gorgon-tomi-shishido/391395/

Curious what more people think on this matchup.

Assume Midnighter can use door, couldn't he just cut the guy in half with it or teleport him into outerspace? Against a dangerous opponent, I don't think Midnighter would be playing around like with his usual opponents.

CB wins either way.
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Better call CB

CB wins either way.
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@Vance Astro said:

@Billy Batson said:

CB wins either way.
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Chris Brown?

CitizenBane.
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CitizenBane.

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@Vance Astro:

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Was a thread not long ago that saw CB arguing Midnighter could beat both the Gorgon and Deathstroke at once if memory serves. Don't think the argument would change drastically much in a one on one.

That, and Gorgon was polluted by the whole Dark Avengers fiasco. Took some shine off his polish.

@Super_SoldierXII said:

Was a thread not long ago that saw CB arguing Midnighter could beat both the Gorgon and Deathstroke at once if memory serves. Don't think the argument would change drastically much in a one on one.

That, and Gorgon was polluted by the whole Dark Avengers fiasco. Took some shine off his polish.

I think Citizenbane almost had a heart attack when he saw Daredevil KO Gorgon.

@castleking said:

a billion scenarios wont help you when you have to settle on a single attack to execute........ a mind reader like gorgon can still attack and counter... this BS ability has gotten out of hand.their are numerous beings with a similar ability with on board computer tech with probable attacks counter adaptive upgrade attacks, files that have recorded every style on the planet and ppl... is is just as pointless as midnighter its BS and blown out of proportion... com systems that regulate the most efficient and optimal attack angle and response... midnighters ability is nothing special and ppl need to stop over exaggerating it... i blame one main person of this on this board for what he has ppl thinking about midnighter.

@FourthDeity said:

@castleking said:

a billion scenarios wont help you when you have to settle on a single attack to execute........ a mind reader like gorgon can still attack and counter... this BS ability has gotten out of hand.their are numerous beings with a similar ability with on board computer tech with probable attacks counter adaptive upgrade attacks, files that have recorded every style on the planet and ppl... is is just as pointless as midnighter its BS and blown out of proportion... com systems that regulate the most efficient and optimal attack angle and response... midnighters ability is nothing special and ppl need to stop over exaggerating it... i blame one main person of this on this board for what he has ppl thinking about midnighter.

So...what exactly are you getting out of quoting a year old post from someone who not only is wrong, not only hasn't posted on this site in a year [thank god] but is also a notorious Marvel fanboy who simply hates Midnighter and knows little about the character?

On top of that I'm willing to bet anything that you've never read a comic with Midnighter or Gorgon in it.

@Vance Astro said:

@Billy Batson said:

CitizenBane.

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Same person.

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@Super_SoldierXII said:

Was a thread not long ago that saw CB arguing Midnighter could beat both the Gorgon and Deathstroke at once if memory serves. Don't think the argument would change drastically much in a one on one.

That, and Gorgon was polluted by the whole Dark Avengers fiasco. Took some shine off his polish.

That was Buckshot's gig. The walls of text were enormous.

I think Gorgon would do better against Midnighter than people like Wolverine or Deathstroke, but the more showings a character gets the easier it becomes to argue against them. I could have argued that Nemesis would beat Midnighter after her introductory series, since she could react to and one-shot a rushing Majestic among other things, but then she gets feats against other people that slowly move her down a notch or two. Gorgon's the same case, and I'm not even talking about that Daredevil kick, his fight with Phobos, though awesome, does work against him: Phobos is a godly kid, but I can't really argue that he's on Midnighter's level.

@CitizenBane said:

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