Location: A Japanese Temple
Both are Bloodlusted.
No prep-time.
Both are at their normal power levels. Standard weapons and equipment apply.
Both know what each other are capable of.
The Gorgon vs Iron Fist
idk there both top Beast imo....Iron fist should be able to counter Gorgons tp with his drunken style correct? hmm i'm not sure who will win i will wait and see some more opinions on this battle
" @PirateKing69 said:okk weird lol... i agree this is a good match" sorry bump has anybody else not been able to get on comic vine till now? "I have not be able to do it. Btw i could see this going either way. It depends on how Danny would use his chi and if he is aware of Gorgon's abilities. Good match though. =] "
" @spidey 15 said:These stuff happens." @PirateKing69 said:okk weird lol... i agree this is a good match "" sorry bump has anybody else not been able to get on comic vine till now? "I have not be able to do it. Btw i could see this going either way. It depends on how Danny would use his chi and if he is aware of Gorgon's abilities. Good match though. =] "
@The Dark Huntress said:
" There was a system malfunction of some sort. Nobody was able to access it. "I see.
@Nefarious said:
" @spidey 15: Thanks. :D "You are welcome.
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yeah i couldn't see anything either kept getting an error
anyway now that im back lets get to the fight
im kinda torn here both are peak top notch fighters, Iron fist has way more possibilities he can do, Gorgon did say "HAIL HYDRA" so IDK
I would have to go with Gorgon in this. He stronger, and way, way more durable. I believe he is faster as well, concidering all of his states are super human. He is also a genius and extremely skilled fighter. I would assume Iron Fist is the more skilled of the two when it come to fighting skill though. Also The Gorgon has his sight powers. Someone mentioned earlier that Iron Fist could counter his TP with a specific style of fighting. I'm not so sure that is the cause but even if it is that would limite IF to one style of fighting and would greatly hinder him. Also the op says nothing about them being aware of each others capablities. So if that is the case it should be an easy win with Gorgons stone stare.
Does Iron Fist really have anything that can truely put The Gorgon down. Well regardless his stare would give the Gorgon the win.
" Gorgon takes him out, Gorgon beat both Wolverine and Elektra, Ironfist is good, but Gorgon is another caliber. "A Weaker Iron Fist has KOed Colossus
" @Trackz said:" Gorgon takes him out, Gorgon beat both Wolverine and Elektra, Ironfist is good, but Gorgon is another caliber. "A Weaker Iron Fist has KOed Colossus "
Not nearly as impresive at man handling both Logan and Elektra.
" @hydrabob said:you know colossus should be more durable then logan and elektra put together....and that feat shows iron fist can hit harder then Gorgon unless you know a feat of Gorgon knocking someone out with that much durability" @Trackz said:Not nearly as impresive at man handling both Logan and Elektra. "" Gorgon takes him out, Gorgon beat both Wolverine and Elektra, Ironfist is good, but Gorgon is another caliber. "A Weaker Iron Fist has KOed Colossus "
Regardless what it shows it is still not as impressive as the feat of schooling both Logan and Electra. Not nearly as impressive. Wolverine is exceptionally skilled fighter has an adamantium skeleton and claws and damn near impossible to keep down. Elektra is only one of the most skilled fighter/assasins in marvel with her own list of abilities. He schooled both of them at the same time with out a problem.
Now lets go into his durability. The dude has taken enought punishment to kill a hundred people and just keeps coming. Taking 6 adamantium claws directely in the chest and never miss a beat. He has also shown the skill and reaction speed to not just block but redirect bullets back at the enemies shooting them.
Then for the kicker you can't even look at him while fighting or you lose!
Don't get me wrong I really like Iron Fist a lot but he is out of his league IMHO.
" @PirateKing69: Regardless what it shows it is still not as impressive as the feat of schooling both Logan and Electra. Not nearly as impressive. Wolverine is exceptionally skilled fighter has an adamantium skeleton and claws and damn near impossible to keep down. Elektra is only one of the most skilled fighter/assasins in marvel with her own list of abilities. He schooled both of them at the same time with out a problem. Now lets go into his durability. The dude has taken enought punishment to kill a hundred people and just keeps coming. Taking 6 adamantium claws directely in the chest and never miss a beat. He has also shown the skill and reaction speed to not just block but redirect bullets back at the enemies shooting them. Then for the kicker you can't even look at him while fighting or you lose! Don't get me wrong I really like Iron Fist a lot but he is out of his league IMHO. "You have good point but him taking his claws isn't durability its more of pain tolerance and blunt damage is different from stabs and slashes so iron fist should be able to ko him with his chi enhanced punches....I'm not saying Gorgon loses but from what i know of Iron Fist this fight is a lot closer imo.....And if i remember Iron Fist can amp up his physical abilities.....But Gorgon does have his stare which could give him a win
I see what you mean about the difference between the stabbing and blunt force trama. That may allow him to be ok'ed. I doubt it but it is at least possible. Also he as TP ( not tolit paper) ability....well like a precog ability. Good fight that could last a while but in the end I fear the evil samurai is going to prevail, lol.
" @PirateKing69: I see what you mean about the difference between the stabbing and blunt force trama. That may allow him to be ok'ed. I doubt it but it is at least possible. Also he as TP ( not tolit paper) ability....well like a precog ability. Good fight that could last a while but in the end I fear the evil samurai is going to prevail, lol. "yea his tp will be a problem dont know enough about Iron Fist if he can counter that....but i guess we will see if anybody else makes a case for Iron Fist...I'm leaning towards Gorgon a little bit
" @PirateKing69: I see what you mean about the difference between the stabbing and blunt force trama. That may allow him to be ok'ed. I doubt it but it is at least possible. Also he as TP ( not tolit paper) ability....well like a precog ability. Good fight that could last a while but in the end I fear the evil samurai is going to prevail, lol. "Iron Fist has his drunken fist techniquewhich even Mr. X couldn't predict his moves. Also he has fought Sabretooth when he was completely blinded by the sun, and it showed how he trained fighting blindfolded, seeing in a fight is more of a bonus for him than a necessity
Problem is Iron fist does not know his opponent in this situation. He has no idea that he has TP or the danger of his stare,
Weellll....."whistling", ok I missed that part. Lol. I still don't think it changes the out come but It does take away the chance for a super easy win, lol.
" @spidey 15: Weellll....."whistling", ok I missed that part. Lol. I still don't think it changes the out come but It does take away the chance for a super easy win, lol. "I don't see why Danny could not win. If he is aware of the stone stare, he can close his eyes and fight like that. He has fight while blinded before so he can do it again.
Also since he is bloodlsuted, i could see him using methods like shattering the ground with his fist or staff like that.
I'm not saying that he gets the majority or anything but this a possibility that i can see it happening.
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I may be willing to conceed that. maybe at 10/2 in favor of the Gorgon. Like I said I like Iron Fist its just they made the Gorgon ridiculous.
" @spidey 15: I may be willing to conceed that. maybe at 10/2 in favor of the Gorgon. Like I said I like Iron Fist its just they made the Gorgon ridiculous. "I know how ridiculous Gorgon is. But Iron Fist is not so much less ridiculous. Being one of the best fighters, one shotting hellicariers, catching or deflecting bullets with his hands and stuff like that are pretty ridiculous. Also i recall a bloodlsuted Danny soloing the Avengers. That's pretty impressive IMO.
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I it truly amazing how far some of these characters have come considering their humble beginnings, lol.
" @vcreed2002 said:you have to hit someone in order to KO him, again Gorgon slices bullets out of the air and took out both Wolverine and Elektra. He recently killed Ares' son Phobos, and on top of that he has his healing which is better than Wolverines." @hydrabob said:you know colossus should be more durable then logan and elektra put together....and that feat shows iron fist can hit harder then Gorgon unless you know a feat of Gorgon knocking someone out with that much durability "" @Trackz said:Not nearly as impresive at man handling both Logan and Elektra. "" Gorgon takes him out, Gorgon beat both Wolverine and Elektra, Ironfist is good, but Gorgon is another caliber. "A Weaker Iron Fist has KOed Colossus "
" @Trackz: and Iron Fist has caught or deflected bullets before with his hands...so i don't see Gorgons speed or reflexes being a major deciding factor "Except for the fact, once again, he was too fast for both elektra and wolverine. Also Gorgon was deflecting bullets from an entire squad of shield agents not deflecting one or two bullets, he was doing this while casually holding a conversation with Elektra.
" There is no way this hasnt been done yet no way in hell a battle this epic hasnt been thought of yet "yea it is... forgot i debated a little in this thread...i dont think anybody came to a agreement whats your view on this battle
Good fight but one on one I see Gorgon taking t after Danny puts up a hell of a fight. Danny could certainly counter the stone stare by fighting blind, though against such an elite opponent it puts hi at somewhat of a disadvantage; it's not his normal state. The blocking of Gorgon's telepathy is iffy, since Danny's done this all of once to my knowledge, and Gorgon seems to be a much more powerful telepath than X. But overall Gorgon seems to have better combat speed, and his durability is insane. I don't see him letting Danny get off a full-blast Iron Fist strike a majority of the time.
Great, great fight though.
" @Sherlock said:I really cant decide sorry i cant be of more help" There is no way this hasnt been done yet no way in hell a battle this epic hasnt been thought of yet "yea it is... forgot i debated a little in this thread...i dont think anybody came to a agreement whats your view on this battle "
" @PirateKing69 said:I understand this battle is really close imo" @Sherlock said:I really cant decide sorry i cant be of more help "" There is no way this hasnt been done yet no way in hell a battle this epic hasnt been thought of yet "yea it is... forgot i debated a little in this thread...i dont think anybody came to a agreement whats your view on this battle "
" Good fight but one on one I see Gorgon taking t after Danny puts up a hell of a fight. Danny could certainly counter the stone stare by fighting blind, though against such an elite opponent it puts hi at somewhat of a disadvantage; it's not his normal state. The blocking of Gorgon's telepathy is iffy, since Danny's done this all of once to my knowledge, and Gorgon seems to be a much more powerful telepath than X. But overall Gorgon seems to have better combat speed, and his durability is insane. I don't see him letting Danny get off a full-blast Iron Fist strike a majority of the time. Great, great fight though. "Can you prove that Gorgon's TP is greater than X's, or that it will even make an impact on the fight if it is? If Danny's drunken style doesn't have any tells than that means no matter how strong the telepathy is he will still be able to get around that. Gorgon rarely uses his stone stare in combat, and even if he did Danny is perfectly capable of fighting blind, though not to the extent of someone like Daredevil. Wolverine was able to tag Gorgon without much trouble, and Danny's speed and strength are superior to Logan's (he is also a better fighter and more powerful to begin with). I see no reason why he can't win.
Hmmm...based on recent showings of power, I'd have to go with Iron Fist on this one...Busting up both a helicarrier and that runaway train makes me believe he has the power, and being able to tie with Shang-Chi and The Cat shows that he has the skill...Iron Fist for the close win.
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