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#1 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio


 

VS 
 
 
The Ghostbusters are bloodlusted because Mephisto has killed Dana Barret.  The Ghostbusters have 5 days prep and have access to all equipment from the game. The Rookie and Janine Melnitz are also included in the fight.  
The fight takes place in New York City. The winner is either when all The Ghostbusters have been killed or Mephisto has been either trapped or eliminated.
#2 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol, Mephisto easily. 5 new souls.

#3 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio
@jeanroygrant said:


                   

Lol, Mephisto easily. 5 new souls.



                   

               

Why? Could you elaborate please?
#4 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

Mephisto blinks them out of existence or calls the Ghost Rider.

#5 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio

You do realise that The Ghostbusters have taken out high level beings before, they also have prep. The Bogeyman, Cuthulu, Samhain, Gozer, Vigo, and Ivo Shandor are just a few. If Mephisto could just blink them out of existance why doesn't he do it more often? Why doesn't he do that to any threat that comes his way? The proton stream should handle him just like any other demon, and then they either trap him or cause total protonic reversal.
#6 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: The Ghostbusters deal with powerful ghost and spectral beings, have they ever taken on high level hell lords or demons? Mephisto could kill them in the blink of an eye if he really wanted to.

#7 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio

Gozer was a demi god and Hob Anagarak was a very powerful Demon who enslaves other demons and spirits to his will.
#8 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: Mephisto at full power can hold his own against Galactus and are those demons that you mentioned more cunning or deceitful than Mephisto?

#9 Posted by SlimJ87D (9913 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@DrEgonSpengler: Mephisto at full power can hold his own against Galactus and are those demons that you mentioned more cunning or as deceitful as Mephisto?

I thought he only holds off galactus in his own realm though? I'm sure this topic is Mephisto out of his realm and in ours.

#10 Edited by JakeN7 (12386 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: Don't bother. He's a Ghostbusters fanboy (which is a wierd thing to be a fanboy of.) Just look at his name, his avatar, his profile pic, his background, and the wiki edit he did. ROFLMAO

Yeah, Mephisto wouldn't even give them the time of day. He would stomp them if he did however.

#11 Posted by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@SlimJ87D: True, but I was only addressing Mephisto`s power and what he`s capable of. Mephisto would kill them regardless of location and whether he`s within his realm or outside of it. The Ghostbusters haven`t really fought anyone close to Mephisto in regards to power, cunning and etc.

#12 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard to say given Hob Anagarak was only in one episode. I never thought of Gozer as deceitful, just powerful. The Bogeyman was also a high reality warper and could create his own realm and cast illusions, and they were able to trap him within his own realm.  Regardless, the equipment The Ghostbusters use is specifically designed to negate supernatural energy. So four of them zap Mephisto with the Proton Stream, while one of them if locking Mephisto in place with the stasis stream, while Janine places the trap under him for containment.
#13 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: Mephisto instantly teleports away from their projectiles and traps as he vaporizes them. The Ghostbusters only have a chance if they get these guys to help them.

#14 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeonGameWave said:


                   

@DrEgonSpengler: Mephisto instantly teleports away from their projectiles and traps as he vaporizes them.



                   

               

Unlikley, anyhow how can he move away if they use the stasis beam on him which emits a high-capacity stream of order-reducing particles that hypo-bond to matter, effectively immobilizing whatever it hits?.
#15 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio
@SlimJ87D said:


                   

@NeonGameWave said:

@DrEgonSpengler: Mephisto at full power can hold his own against Galactus and are those demons that you mentioned more cunning or as deceitful as Mephisto?

I thought he only holds off galactus in his own realm though? I'm sure this topic is Mephisto out of his realm and in ours.



                   

               

That is correct, he is in our realm.
#16 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: Easy, he vanishes or teleports instantly and he is also a powerful reality warper how are the Ghostbusters supposed to counter that? He is pretty much unkillable as well as uncontainable (to a degree). The only way the Ghostbusters could win is if they call or get help from the following badass hunters of the supernatural/paranormal.

By Uwe de Witt
Ghost Rider by Mark Texeira and Javier Saltares
#17 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio


If Mephisto can be hit in the face and not teleport away, then he can certainly be hit with the proton streams. In our real Mephisto is not as powerful.
#18 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: That`s Thor the God of Thunder not the Ghostbusters a group of regular humans who fight and struggle against mediocre ghosts. Also even if Mephisto is outside of his realm the Ghostbusters have no counter to his physical attacks and maneuvers.

#19 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeonGameWave said:


                   

@DrEgonSpengler: That`s Thor not the Ghostbusters. Also even if Mephisto is outside of his realm the Ghostbusters have no counter to his physical attacks and maneuvers.



                   

               
Yes that is Thor, Proton Stream>faster than Thors punch. Plus The Ghostbusters have prep remember.  Egon is like Reed Richards with prep, I'm sure he would come up with some kind of automated system in this case where by if Mephisto comes within a certain distance of them traps open up, containing him. It would only take Egon combining PKE Tech with the Trap Tech to make that work. Not only that but they could just freeze him with the stasis stream and then use positivley charged slime to mellow him out a bit. Also the Ectomobile has the superslammer now which is a massive ghost trap.
#20 Posted by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: Thor was in close contact with Mephisto and the Proton Stream is more of a projectile. Can you prove why they would be able to trap or contain him? Are their traps powerful enough? Ghost traps not demon hell lord traps.

#21 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeonGameWave said:


                   

@DrEgonSpengler: Thor was in close contact with Mephisto and the Proton Stream is more of a projectile. Can you prove why they would be able to trap or contain him? Are their traps powerful enough? Ghost traps not demon hell lord traps.



                   

               

With the modifications made in the game, quite possibly yes. Plus the superslammer should certainly have enough power to contain him. If not they can use the crossing of the streams again, that has worked twice on demi gods. 
#22 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: Has it worked on demons who rule over hellish dimensions and domains? Hell lords who have a degree of reality manipulation? Mephisto isn`t going to sit there and allow himself to get zapped. He might even allow it only to escape or reform seconds later and have the Ghostbusters vaporized in mere seconds.

#23 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeonGameWave said:


                   

@DrEgonSpengler: Has it worked on demons who rule over hellish dimensions and domains? Hell lords who have a degree of reality manipulation? Mephisto isn`t going to sit there and allow himself to get zapped. Heck he might even allow it only to escape or reform seconds later and have the Ghostbusters vaporized in mere seconds.



                   

               


I'm not seeing Mephisto as being so incredibly quick that he can get tagged by two opponets who hit much slower than light speed. Also like I said The Bogeyman was a high end reality warper and they managed to trap him within his own realm. Also they did beat Hob Anagarak who is a powerful demon that has control over other demons.
#24 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: Those two that you mentioned are not even close to Mephisto in reality and Mephisto is not a ghost but a demon making their methods less effective. Just because Hulk tagged him doesn`t mean the Ghostbusters can regardless of the tools. Mephisto won`t be playing around and like I said he might even allow it only to reform, and have them killed.

#25 Posted by ClarkJosephKent1938DC (682 posts) - - Show Bio

The Ghostbusters tools will work on mephisto, and with prep It gives them the edge they need!

#26 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeonGameWave said:


                   

@DrEgonSpengler: Those two that you mentioned are not even close to Mephisto in reality and Mephisto is not a ghost but a demon making their methods less effective. Just because Hulk tagged him doesn`t mean the Ghostbusters can regardless of the tools. Mephisto won`t be playing around and like I said he might even allow it only to reform, and have them killed.



                   

               

It kind of does mean they can tag him with their tools If Hulk can tag him like I said before Hulk hand speed <is slower than light speed and Mehpisto didn't avoid that. Plus there are up to six Ghostbusters firing at him at the same time.  Besides Mephisto is a jobber and you know it. 
#27 Posted by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: That was in a direct confrontation the fight could start from an considerable distance that`s my point. What are their tools going to do to him? Absolutely nothing. He is not even a ghost, he is a demon which is a clear difference.

#28 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeonGameWave said:


                   

@DrEgonSpengler: That was in a direct confrontation the fight could start from an considerable distance that`s my point. What are their tools going to do to him? Absolutely nothing. He is not even a ghost, he is a demon which is a clear difference.



                   

               
As I stated before their equipment can handle demons as well. They beat a demi god just using the streams. Plus these days Egon has ecto bombs with him. This destroys supernatural energy when it is set off, they act like a grenade.
#29 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: Demons like who? Also Mephisto can easily transmute their streams as he mocks their efforts like he always does. He can instantly teleport and I don`t see why he wouldn`t use it here. He could also probably summon or create minions for the Ghostbusters in which he would just have them easily distracted giving him enough time to remove them from existence with his mystical attacks. Like I said, even if it does work what`s stopping Mephisto from escaping or reforming from another plane of existence through the use of his astral like abilities?

#30 Posted by ClarkJosephKent1938DC (682 posts) - - Show Bio

He wont do a thing to their streams. They are designed specifically to fight against supernatural entities. So they hit him full stream with wide dispersion mode and bust him like any other supernatural threat they come up against. I do believe they even outsmarted the devil once. Futhermore with the preptime Ray owns an occult bookshop, they may find other ways to beat Mephisto without the packs.

#31 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

Mephisto wins easy

#32 Posted by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@ClarkJosephKent1938DC: They can`t put him down for good but he sure can.

#33 Posted by ClarkJosephKent1938DC (682 posts) - - Show Bio

They can put him down for good if they decide to cross the streams on him, he would be destroyed then.

#34 Posted by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@ClarkJosephKent1938DC: And then he would reform as he instantly has them vaporized. They won`t come back from that, now that`s a guarantee.

#35 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeonGameWave said:


                   

@DrEgonSpengler: That was in a direct confrontation the fight could start from an considerable distance that`s my point. What are their tools going to do to him? Absolutely nothing. He is not even a ghost, he is a demon which is a clear difference.



                    Still, if he is so powerful why couldn't he avoid the Hulks punches? Didn't he see the Hulk coming? Why didn't he teleport away? The same goes for Thor.  My scans have proven that Mephisto doesn't rely on teleportation all the time, and I don't see why the Ghostbusters wouldn't be able to hit him with their weapons, or other devices Egon has created for the encounter.

               

@NeonGameWave said:


                   

@ClarkJosephKent1938DC: And then he would reform as he instantly has them vaporized. They won`t come back from that, now that`s a guarantee.



                    How will he reform once he has been the victum of total protonic reversal? His supernatural energies would be destroyed, and he cant come back from that.

               

@NeonGameWave said:


                   

@DrEgonSpengler: Demons like who? Also Mephisto can easily transmute their streams as he mocks their efforts like he always does. He can instantly teleport and I don`t see why he wouldn`t use it here. He could also probably summon or create minions for the Ghostbusters in which he would just have them easily distracted giving him enough time to remove them from existence with his mystical attacks. Like I said, even if it does work what`s stopping Mephisto from escaping or reforming from another plane of existence through the use of his astral like abilities?



                   

               

Hob Anagarak was one powerful Demon they defeated there have been others.  I don't see him doing anythig to the streams, especially when they disrupt supernatural energy, which is what Mephisto uses. Also he's not going anywhere once the streams are on him, he won't be able to escape, as they will be draining him of his energy, or they could use a ghost bomb or stasis stream to slow him down.
#36 Posted by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: Is Hob even close to Mephisto? If Mephisto is destroyed he will reform like always and I don`t believe the streams are enough to keep him down. Ghost Rider and many others have had trouble dealing with Mephisto what makes you think the Ghostbusters could do any better regardless of the tools they use?

#37 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

@ClarkJosephKent1938DC said:

The Ghostbusters tools will work on mephisto, and with prep It gives them the edge they need!

this

#38 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio

Hob Anagarak has the ability to breathe and control fire, has incredible strength, and can teleport away from danger. It was said Hob Anagarak could have reduced whole cities to charcoal. He also has the power to enslave demons and spirits to his will. So yes I think he is a pretty powerful demon to compare to Mephisto!

#39 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (2638 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: Indeed.

#40 Posted by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: Mephisto is more cunning and is more powerful than Black Heart as he has fought Ghost Rider, he can summon demons, alter reality and can control mystical energy. Hob ain't anything special. The people Mephisto fought would annihilate him.

#41 Posted by mk111 (3140 posts) - - Show Bio

The Ghostbusters die.

#42 Posted by dondave (37404 posts) - - Show Bio

Mephisto ftw

Online
#43 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3497 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this thread serious??

#44 Posted by Alexman113 (487 posts) - - Show Bio

I am not taking one side or the other, but has anyone in this thread actually read the comic book or is this discussion based solely on cartoon, game, and movie feats?

#45 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeonGameWave said:


                   

@DrEgonSpengler: Mephisto is more cunning and is more powerful than Black Heart as he has fought Ghost Rider, he can summon demons, alter reality and can control mystical energy. Hob ain't anything special. The people Mephisto fought would annihilate him.



                   

               

Hob is only one Demon they have defeated. There are other powerful foes they have overcome before. Cuthulu, Bogeyman, Samhain and others. These guys had high power levels, Bogeyman especially could, create his own reality, cast illusions, and fed off people's fear. He could cross into other dimensions through doorways he himself created, he is a transdimensional being. 
 
Samhain could control other spirits and had the ability to control time.   
 
Cuthulu is a very powerful foe that was so powerful, according to Egon, made Gozer look like "little mary sunshine!" 
 
With prep, The Ghostbusters have enough time to come up with new equipment to take this fight, not that I think they need, but they could if they had to.  You have to remember that three of the Ghostbusters have PHD's, so they are very clever people, plus they specialise in the field in which this topic relates to. Also If Mephisto was so cunning, how does he get beaten up by the most simple minded opponent, being The Hulk? 
 
The Ghostbusters take this fight. 
#46 Posted by Setherial (210 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting thread... Mephisto has the feats to be in a different ballpark than the entities the Ghostbusters have bested, however.

#47 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: You bring up some really awesome points but the problem is that Mephisto is capable of doing the same and above, that`s the thing. Another problem is that they do not possess the necessary equipment or firepower to put him down permanently. Hulk beating Mephisto is because of his arrogance and being caught off guard in a direct confrontation. These are mere mortals, he will waste no time in getting rid of them. Mephisto can also summon demons.

#48 Posted by DrEgonSpengler (542 posts) - - Show Bio

Despite his immense power, Mephisto does have several significant limitations. He is unable to force the subjugation of any sentient being's will to his own without that being's deliberate submission. He is also incapable of reading the thoughts of any sentient being. Mephisto's powers are linked with his extradimensional realm and his powers rapidly decrease the longer he is away from his realm. As a result, he typically uses or manipulates others into performing whatever plan he has in mind. Also, despite continuously trying to get any noble soul to his realm and possesion, he must need to corrupt them first, or otherwise, he himself will be, ironically, injuried in the process. This has been proved to be the case of Thor and Cynthia in the past. Indeed, the reason of why Mephisto undone Peter Parker's marriage with Mary Jane Watson rather than taking their souls was because, in his own words, their willingness to sacrifice temselves for another person would automatically redeem them.

My apologies for using the cut and paste job, but this information shows that The Ghostbusters have a good chance here. First thing is that Mephisto is conciderably weaker outside of his own realm, which he is with the fight being in New York City. Secondly he can't read their thoughts, meaning he won't know what is coming or know about the gear The Ghostbusters will be using. He can't force their subjucation and if he tries he will be injured because he cant break their will.

It also appears that Mephisto is a jobber and wouldn't attempt to destroy The Ghostbusters straight away anyway. So The Ghostbusters hit him with a couple of stasis streams a ghost bomb (which destroys all supernatural energies within a 50mile radius) and then hit him full stream using protonic reversal for good measure. He can't come back if his energy is completly destroyed. That is of corse if Egon doesn't come up with better tech to elminate him. Don't forget the positivley charged slime could even possibly alter his personality.

#49 Edited by NeonGameWave (7783 posts) - - Show Bio

@DrEgonSpengler: Mephisto will still reform and once he realizes what has happened. will instantly kill them and like I said he can create minions for the Ghost Busters to fight as he can also distract them. I agree, he is more of a manipulator but his cunning is what makes him very dangerous and my point is that the Ghost Busters tools won`t be enough regardless of negation, canceling or limitations. Ghost Rider had problems dealing with Mephisto in general whether it was outside or inside his realm, that alone proves my point on why the Ghost Busters don`t stand a chance. Mephisto might not even bother with them and might have someone else intervene so that he could spend more time in his realm.

#50 Posted by kingsloth (249 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@DrEgonSpengler: Mephisto at full power can hold his own against Galactus and are those demons that you mentioned more cunning or deceitful than Mephisto?

only in his own realm.