vs
the fulcrum vs the presence
im not realy sure but i think the fulcrum wins. thats because the precence once said that he had creators (as he said: "i was shaped by forces external to me" maybe there are beings more powerfull then him more then one). and from what i know the fulcrum is only second to the one above all. he is suposed to be jack kirby. like toaa is stan lee.
i'll put scans of both of them.
@jigen879: you don't revive a banned thread.
@god_spawn@saren@vance_astro an omnipotent thread.
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