The Flash(Wally West) vs. Silver Surfer

The rules of this race are simple: The first person to circle the entire globe 100 times wins. Now, personally, I think Flash takes this. Why? Because he has the ability to go at whatever speed he choses. There are no limits to his speed, but at the same time, I never underestimate Surfer's speed. I know that he is incredibly fast, can achieve speeds far beyond those of lightspeed in hyperspace, and is a good match for Flash, but in the end, I believe that Flash will be victorious in this race. I also want to add that, if you have any scans to support what you say, do show them. I would like this to be more of a discussion topic thread, rather than just a "Surfer wins, Flash wins" thread. Personally, I hate those. We are all comic fans here, and in being comic fans, we should have discussions with other comic fans with evidence to support our claims, not just give fanboy answers like "He wins" and not have any proof to support your claim. 

Well, you know Wally can absorb Surfers speed and stack it onto his own. So that wouldn't work too well for Surfer, would it?

" @victorymaker:  It's said that Flash can go 500x the speed of light easily. "

@FlashingxImpulse

" Well, you know Wally can absorb Surfers speed and stack it onto his own "

Wally for sure, I agree with the O.P. plus once he goes Speed Force nothing is faster then that(outside of Zoom I believe) 
 
My votes for Flash here.

Flash probably has faster reaction time, but in race Surfer wins. I don't think flash can move more then few hundred times faster then light.
Surfer can pass light years in second which means he is more then 30 million times faster then light.

Considering Flash has comeback from even other dimensions, Flash has surpassed the speed of time before. Its roots comes from the love he has for his wife, Linda. Considering Surfer doesn't have that in his life, he never has something that can push him hard enough. Another thing, get Surfer off his bored and see if he can run faster than Wally.

Wally taps into the speed force and wins

SS 

flash wins easy

Speed Force >>>>> All except Zoom, and even then, there have been occasions when a Speedster has caught up to Zoom. This isn't a matter of reaching the speed of light, its how many times faster than light he goes. SS gets beat, he can't beat Wally's speed.

" Speed Force >>>>> All except Zoom, and even then, there have been occasions when a Speedster has caught up to Zoom. This isn't a matter of reaching the speed of light, its how many times faster than light he goes. SS gets beat, he can't beat Wally's speed. "

Can I just say that Wally wins and I know from a previous debate that I've had?  That particular debate was SS vs Barry Allen though.  However, it's common knowledge that Wally is faster than Barry.  Seeing as at the end of it all Barry beat SS, Wally stomps SS.  Will post a link to that disscussion in a few. 

if surfer can go 30 million times faster then the speed of light and flash can only go 500 times the speed of light then the surfer wins but i would how people r coming up with this cuz im just reading the posts i have no real in out on this.

Surfer ftw. He's an all powerful cosmic entity y'all!

Norrin stomps.

...(Sigh)  Am I gunna have to get into this battle again? 

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...(Sigh)  Am I gunna have to get into this battle again? 

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Feel Free lol

Wally can win. He can enter the Speed Force, dish out an IMP, or Speed steal. I mean his IMP KO'd White Martian. And he has fast combo speed. I think Wally wins 7/10.

Batman and Chuck Norris team up and are already at the finish line by the time Flash and Surfer even have time to warm up.

Wally West has occasionally become one with the Speed Force. He wins.

Only way Surfer is winning is if he starts up high in the air. 

SS wins. he is faster than light so flash lose

SS wins. he is faster than light so flash lose

Flash is millions of times faster then light,

 the dude outran the big bang, 

Barry Allen outran death itself.  

both are faster then Surfer,  

the only way Surfer wins if he starts 1000 feet in the air, otherwise he loses. 

Isn't this Proof of the Surfer going FTL? Faster than the speed of light to be precise, Wally on the other hand hasn't shown any evidence of reaching that sort of speed however I would give it to Wally if there's some non cannon or at least evidence of him going faster than the speed of light.

Only way Surfer is winning is if he starts up high in the air. 

@Hohenheim_of_light said: 

Flash is millions of times faster then light,

 People have already indicated the Surfer should be 10s of millions of times faster than light.

 the dude outran the big bang, 

How? What was he standing on? How could he even be outside of it? The big bang wasn't an explosion in space, it was the creation of space.

Barry Allen outran death itself.  

So? How fast is the Black Racer (I assume that's who you're actually talking about)?

both are faster then Surfer,  

I always find it funny in battle forums when people try to work around flat out assuming one character is better than another by just comparing them to other characters they assume are better. 
 
Plus, in Final Crisis, Wally seemed to be keeping up with Barry pretty well, and they were really running about even with the Black Racer; he wasn't gaining on them, but they weren't really outdistancing him either. This would make them equal.
 

the only way Surfer wins if he starts 1000 feet in the air, otherwise he loses. 

This is a race, not a fight. And Surfer's speed has nothing to do with his altitude.

surfer blows him before he gets to pluto

surfer blows him before he gets to pluto

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

surfer blows him before he gets to pluto

Only if he starts high in the air out of Flashes reach. 

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

surfer blows him before he gets to pluto

Only if he starts high in the air out of Flashes reach. 

 what i ment was surfer will win before wally makes it to pluto. oh and if wally could even touch surfer he wouldnt be able to hurt him. 

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

surfer blows him before he gets to pluto

Only if he starts high in the air out of Flashes reach. 

 what i ment was surfer will win before wally makes it to pluto. oh and if wally could even touch surfer he wouldnt be able to hurt him. 

Really? Because Surfer has been harmed by physical strength before.  Flash's regular hits are about as hard as Superman's.  Imagine getting hit by 10000 of those in a picosecond....

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

surfer blows him before he gets to pluto

Only if he starts high in the air out of Flashes reach. 

 what i ment was surfer will win before wally makes it to pluto. oh and if wally could even touch surfer he wouldnt be able to hurt him. 

Really? Because Surfer has been harmed by physical strength before.  Flash's regular hits are about as hard as Superman's.  Imagine getting hit by 10000 of those in a picosecond....

really. i know flash hits hard but not that hard. Surfer is intangible though so flash wouldnt be able to hit him, and if he could it wouldnt hurt.

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@Hohenheim_of_light said:

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

surfer blows him before he gets to pluto

Only if he starts high in the air out of Flashes reach. 

 what i ment was surfer will win before wally makes it to pluto. oh and if wally could even touch surfer he wouldnt be able to hurt him. 

Really? Because Surfer has been harmed by physical strength before.  Flash's regular hits are about as hard as Superman's.  Imagine getting hit by 10000 of those in a picosecond....

really. i know flash hits hard but not that hard. Surfer is intangible though so flash wouldnt be able to hit him, and if he could it wouldnt hurt.

Flash hits as hard as Superman does if not harder, if Surfer gets hit by 100 of those punches in an instant then he won't get up. 

Hard choice to make, but I give my vote to Surfer.

@supermandefender: Can't Flash hit with the power of a white dwarf or something like that. And he has the IMP. Also to all of you this isn't a fight it's a race hence my vote goes to Wally. 

@supermandefender: Sorry, I don't have any troll food to give you, please go back under your bridge.

That and the Flash was NEVER EVER intended to be more powerful than Superman. Thats PIS in a comic that fans misinterupted the content of the feats being showed. Did the feat happen yes but is it a in general thing...no.

Flash does hit harder than Superman......... IMP........ 
 
 
Either way, Flash would still kill Superman. 
 
But that's not this thread. 
 
Flash wins.

Surfer ftw.