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Morals off for both

Wally can use all of his powers

Both are bloodlusted

Battle takes place in Keystone city

BFR is allowed.

The Void vs Wally West

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#2  Edited By Lone_Wolf_and_Cub

Void stomps

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Void in a Stomp

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Void destroys him.

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Void stomps

@bo88gdan said:

Void in a Stomp

Void destroys him.

Not that I'm arguing but how? I took the speed steal away so it wouldnt be a "Wally West stomps" or practically spite. I thought I made it fair, what makes it so easy for Void?

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#6  Edited By New_World_Order

Void obliterates any Flash like he did Loki.

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Molecular manip gives Void the win.

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Flash literally can't hurt the void. His only option is BFR and the Void could just teleport while Flash tries to carry him into the speed force. Speed Steal would've been his only chance, as he can use it to cause seizures and junk -- without that, Void's a molecular manipulator above Molecule Man, which is out of Wally's league.

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#9  Edited By ghostrider2

Void.

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The Flash lose this fight

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@xlr87t3: That's not even though, that's just making void a statue. I don't think there's a way for this fight to not be just a stomp.

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Exactly, I was thinking Wally having control over his molecules would be able to resist that and tear his brain out and or speed force dump. If I let Wally use his Speed steal the void would lose in a stomp.. It was the lesser of 2 evils

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Wally can speed force dump or whatever, doesn't matter. Even if he does manage to kill void (which I don't see happening) sentry can resurrect himself like when Morgan le fay "killed" him

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Void Decimates Flash ! Run run as fast as you can ! You're going to die little red man !

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#18  Edited By Cooldes

Guys can't void fly? can wally fly? no, therefore:

while in air and out of flash reach, he Alt+F4's wally from existence.

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Wally can simulate flying with speed and he's never had a problem before with people that fly.

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#20  Edited By SheenLantern

@cooldes said:

Guys can't void fly? can wally fly? no

He can, actually.

He still loses, though.

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Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

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Wally can simulate flying with speed and he's never had a problem before with people that fly.

Flash runs in space. Think about that....

Void Decimates Flash ! Run run as fast as you can ! You're going to die little red man !

Totally funny and true.

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@cadencev2: the Void was KOd by a hellicarrier, think about that.

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#24  Edited By Pokergeist

@cadencev2: the Void was KOd by a hellicarrier, think about that.

Actually that was Sentry who was Void, who was Sentry, who is Bob, who is the second half brother of the Greek God of Bipolar, and when he had power fluctuations on mental state that was never fully explored or explain by Bendis.

Think about that :)

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@cadencev2: since you said "Bendis" there's no thinking necessary.

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Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

I'd like to think that a guy who could overpower Molecule Man can overpower Flash's level of molecule manipulation.

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Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

Hmmm....Owen Reese coudn't disperse his molecules in Dark Avengers....I don't see how Flash could do it if the Molecule Man couldn't.

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@dredeuced: Sorry for be late, but when since could the Void teleport?

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@cadencev2: @supermanwithatan01: i think we're supposed to think the sentry wanted death, because we all know he is literally immortal.

cadence, you confused me there..

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@cooldes: he confused me too. Just tell him it's Thursday, or that the Flash wears a costume or something. He'll probably still win the state the obvious contest he's always playing at.

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@nickthedevil said:

Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

I'd like to think that a guy who could overpower Molecule Man can overpower Flash's level of molecule manipulation.

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Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

Hmmm....Owen Reese coudn't disperse his molecules in Dark Avengers....I don't see how Flash could do it if the Molecule Man couldn't.

also this

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@nickthedevil said:

Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

I'd like to think that a guy who could overpower Molecule Man can overpower Flash's level of molecule manipulation.

this

@nickthedevil said:

Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

Hmmm....Owen Reese coudn't disperse his molecules in Dark Avengers....I don't see how Flash could do it if the Molecule Man couldn't.

also this

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#35  Edited By Pokergeist

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@dredeuced: Sorry for be late, but when since could the Void teleport?

Actually he did this a few times, most notably in the cave scene in New Avengers when Cap and Iron Man showed Bob the comics of who he is, Sentry then Teleports out of the cave in a flash of light and was back home as Bob acting normal.

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@cadencev2: @supermanwithatan01: i think we're supposed to think the sentry wanted death, because we all know he is literally immortal.

cadence, you confused me there..

Then congrats, you are now as much as a expert on Sentry as his most notable creator the great Bendis.

The point is Sentry has INSANE inconsistent showings and powers that were never explain till the very end. Sentry powers are the same of Molecule Man. Thus whatever the hell Sentry or Void want, they get.

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Omg... Void voidstomps... All the people saying Flash has total control over his molecules is BS... Flash can make them move as fast as he wants... But he doesn't have matter manipulation... He can't reconfigure anything, he can alter anything... Just himself and only about speed of his molecules... Stop the wanking.

Void is an intangible being... What if flash is running on him and he doesn't even know? Maybe all shadow is Void's body and he would just play with Flash? You don't need speed reaction nor anything when you're such a powerful and intangible being... Gosh...

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Omg... Void voidstomps... All the people saying Flash has total control over his molecules is BS... Flash can make them move as fast as he wants... But he doesn't have matter manipulation... He can't reconfigure anything, he can alter anything... Just himself and only about speed of his molecules... Stop the wanking.

Void is an intangible being... What if flash is running on him and he doesn't even know? Maybe all shadow is Void's body and he would just play with Flash? You don't need speed reaction nor anything when you're such a powerful and intangible being... Gosh...

I'm not disagreeing that Void wins, but Flash most certainly can affect the molecules of other things. It's how he phases other people through solid matter, lends speed, steals speed, or atomizes things.

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@cadencev2: lol i already knew that about his powers, and i think you meant "writer" bendis definitely didn't create sentry.

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@dredeuced: you'd have an easier time debating with Thanos, Hulk, Storm or Wolverine fanboys than Flash (speedforce) Haters...

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Omg... Void voidstomps... All the people saying Flash has total control over his molecules is BS... Flash can make them move as fast as he wants... But he doesn't have matter manipulation... He can't reconfigure anything, he can alter anything... Just himself and only about speed of his molecules... Stop the wanking.

Void is an intangible being... What if flash is running on him and he doesn't even know? Maybe all shadow is Void's body and he would just play with Flash? You don't need speed reaction nor anything when you're such a powerful and intangible being... Gosh...

this without the anger

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@cooldes said:

@cadencev2: lol i already knew that about his powers, and i think you meant "writer" bendis definitely didn't create sentry.

Doh, I keep forgetting Bendis did not create him, Jenkins and Lee did. Bendis merely took said character that no one ever heard off and made him the center of every story in his New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, and Dark Avengers like the passed around whore character Sentry was.

My bad :).

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#43  Edited By X_insignia1

Void.

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#44  Edited By Wardemon32

This is hard because of the whole molecular control thing. But probably void.

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#46  Edited By GhostRavage

@supermanwithatan01: Because people should just nod about every thing Flash might do with the speed force? Yeah, way to go...If Flash speedforce wankers weren't so short minded there wouldn't be any problem... My god... Awww Flash is a victim in the vine, god help him... NOT! Flash wins streak is over 9000, don't try to hide your whining making me look like im a Flash hater. Grow up.

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Omg... Void voidstomps... All the people saying Flash has total control over his molecules is BS... Flash can make them move as fast as he wants... But he doesn't have matter manipulation... He can't reconfigure anything, he can alter anything... Just himself and only about speed of his molecules... Stop the wanking.

Void is an intangible being... What if flash is running on him and he doesn't even know? Maybe all shadow is Void's body and he would just play with Flash? You don't need speed reaction nor anything when you're such a powerful and intangible being... Gosh...

I'm not disagreeing that Void wins, but Flash most certainly can affect the molecules of other things. It's how he phases other people through solid matter, lends speed, steals speed, or atomizes things.

Hmmm... Yeah, i meant he just can accelerate things, forgot about atomizing >.>... But can that be considered Matter Manipulation? I don't think so... Maybe 1/7 of all the stuff you can do with matter manipulation...

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@wardemon32: I would imagine it factors in. Since there is no way to harm the Void physically then it's a stalemate. Bob would never touch Wally. Morals off Wally heads into the speed force. If they fight idk what either could do to one another.

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Give flash speed stealing and void will still stomp

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While Void is certainly very powerful, he cant touch Flash or even react before Flash speed-steals him into a statue, or hits him with 1000 IMPs.

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While Void is certainly very powerful, he cant touch Flash or even react before Flash speed-steals him into a statue, or hits him with 1000 IMPs.

How is void without PIS even able to be affected physically... Speed Steal darkness? Speedsteal intangibility? Nah... Flash dies...