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#1 Edited by Supermanwithatan01 (3679 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off for both

Wally can use all of his powers

Both are bloodlusted

Battle takes place in Keystone city

BFR is allowed.

The Void vs Wally West

vs

#2 Edited by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5052 posts) - - Show Bio

Void stomps

#3 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

Void in a Stomp

#4 Posted by BigCimmerian (8305 posts) - - Show Bio

Void destroys him.

#5 Edited by Supermanwithatan01 (3679 posts) - - Show Bio

Void stomps

@bo88gdan said:

Void in a Stomp

Void destroys him.

Not that I'm arguing but how? I took the speed steal away so it wouldnt be a "Wally West stomps" or practically spite. I thought I made it fair, what makes it so easy for Void?

#6 Edited by New_World_Order (13187 posts) - - Show Bio

Void obliterates any Flash like he did Loki.

#7 Posted by Sideslash (5907 posts) - - Show Bio

Molecular manip gives Void the win.

#8 Posted by Dredeuced (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash literally can't hurt the void. His only option is BFR and the Void could just teleport while Flash tries to carry him into the speed force. Speed Steal would've been his only chance, as he can use it to cause seizures and junk -- without that, Void's a molecular manipulator above Molecule Man, which is out of Wally's league.

#9 Edited by GhostRider2 (3295 posts) - - Show Bio

Void.

#10 Posted by dondave (37351 posts) - - Show Bio

Void

#11 Posted by homicidalmaniac (7588 posts) - - Show Bio

The Flash lose this fight

#12 Posted by XLR87T3 (2762 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by IRS (455 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: That's not even though, that's just making void a statue. I don't think there's a way for this fight to not be just a stomp.

#14 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3679 posts) - - Show Bio

Exactly, I was thinking Wally having control over his molecules would be able to resist that and tear his brain out and or speed force dump. If I let Wally use his Speed steal the void would lose in a stomp.. It was the lesser of 2 evils

#15 Posted by HyperViper97 (1342 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally can speed force dump or whatever, doesn't matter. Even if he does manage to kill void (which I don't see happening) sentry can resurrect himself like when Morgan le fay "killed" him

#17 Posted by ImNemotheGemini (845 posts) - - Show Bio

Void Decimates Flash ! Run run as fast as you can ! You're going to die little red man !

#18 Edited by Cooldes (4097 posts) - - Show Bio

Guys can't void fly? can wally fly? no, therefore:

while in air and out of flash reach, he Alt+F4's wally from existence.

#19 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3679 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally can simulate flying with speed and he's never had a problem before with people that fly.

#20 Edited by SheenLantern (6627 posts) - - Show Bio

@cooldes said:

Guys can't void fly? can wally fly? no

He can, actually.

He still loses, though.

#21 Posted by nickthedevil (12409 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

#22 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally can simulate flying with speed and he's never had a problem before with people that fly.

Flash runs in space. Think about that....

Void Decimates Flash ! Run run as fast as you can ! You're going to die little red man !

Totally funny and true.

#23 Edited by Supermanwithatan01 (3679 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: the Void was KOd by a hellicarrier, think about that.

#24 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: the Void was KOd by a hellicarrier, think about that.

Actually that was Sentry who was Void, who was Sentry, who is Bob, who is the second half brother of the Greek God of Bipolar, and when he had power fluctuations on mental state that was never fully explored or explain by Bendis.

Think about that :)

#25 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3679 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: since you said "Bendis" there's no thinking necessary.

#26 Posted by dondave (37351 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by Dredeuced (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

I'd like to think that a guy who could overpower Molecule Man can overpower Flash's level of molecule manipulation.

#28 Posted by CaptnMcDeadpool (960 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

Hmmm....Owen Reese coudn't disperse his molecules in Dark Avengers....I don't see how Flash could do it if the Molecule Man couldn't.

#29 Posted by New_World_Order (13187 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced: Sorry for be late, but when since could the Void teleport?

#30 Posted by Cooldes (4097 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: @supermanwithatan01: i think we're supposed to think the sentry wanted death, because we all know he is literally immortal.

cadence, you confused me there..

#31 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3679 posts) - - Show Bio

@cooldes: he confused me too. Just tell him it's Thursday, or that the Flash wears a costume or something. He'll probably still win the state the obvious contest he's always playing at.

#32 Posted by Cooldes (4097 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

I'd like to think that a guy who could overpower Molecule Man can overpower Flash's level of molecule manipulation.

this

@nickthedevil said:

Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

Hmmm....Owen Reese coudn't disperse his molecules in Dark Avengers....I don't see how Flash could do it if the Molecule Man couldn't.

also this

#33 Posted by Cooldes (4097 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickthedevil said:

Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

I'd like to think that a guy who could overpower Molecule Man can overpower Flash's level of molecule manipulation.

this

@nickthedevil said:

Flash also has total molecular manipulation. It's the entire reason Mirror Master can't simply turn him to glass, or Abra Kadabra can't turn Flash into a bunny.

Try again, fanboys.

Hmmm....Owen Reese coudn't disperse his molecules in Dark Avengers....I don't see how Flash could do it if the Molecule Man couldn't.

also this

#34 Posted by WillPayton (9443 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash

#35 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@thundergodswrath said:

@dredeuced: Sorry for be late, but when since could the Void teleport?

Actually he did this a few times, most notably in the cave scene in New Avengers when Cap and Iron Man showed Bob the comics of who he is, Sentry then Teleports out of the cave in a flash of light and was back home as Bob acting normal.

@cooldes said:

@cadencev2: @supermanwithatan01: i think we're supposed to think the sentry wanted death, because we all know he is literally immortal.

cadence, you confused me there..

Then congrats, you are now as much as a expert on Sentry as his most notable creator the great Bendis.

The point is Sentry has INSANE inconsistent showings and powers that were never explain till the very end. Sentry powers are the same of Molecule Man. Thus whatever the hell Sentry or Void want, they get.

#36 Posted by New_World_Order (13187 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Posted by GhostRavage (8955 posts) - - Show Bio

Omg... Void voidstomps... All the people saying Flash has total control over his molecules is BS... Flash can make them move as fast as he wants... But he doesn't have matter manipulation... He can't reconfigure anything, he can alter anything... Just himself and only about speed of his molecules... Stop the wanking.

Void is an intangible being... What if flash is running on him and he doesn't even know? Maybe all shadow is Void's body and he would just play with Flash? You don't need speed reaction nor anything when you're such a powerful and intangible being... Gosh...

#38 Posted by Dredeuced (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

Omg... Void voidstomps... All the people saying Flash has total control over his molecules is BS... Flash can make them move as fast as he wants... But he doesn't have matter manipulation... He can't reconfigure anything, he can alter anything... Just himself and only about speed of his molecules... Stop the wanking.

Void is an intangible being... What if flash is running on him and he doesn't even know? Maybe all shadow is Void's body and he would just play with Flash? You don't need speed reaction nor anything when you're such a powerful and intangible being... Gosh...

I'm not disagreeing that Void wins, but Flash most certainly can affect the molecules of other things. It's how he phases other people through solid matter, lends speed, steals speed, or atomizes things.

#39 Posted by Cooldes (4097 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: lol i already knew that about his powers, and i think you meant "writer" bendis definitely didn't create sentry.

#40 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3679 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced: you'd have an easier time debating with Thanos, Hulk, Storm or Wolverine fanboys than Flash (speedforce) Haters...

#41 Posted by Cooldes (4097 posts) - - Show Bio

Omg... Void voidstomps... All the people saying Flash has total control over his molecules is BS... Flash can make them move as fast as he wants... But he doesn't have matter manipulation... He can't reconfigure anything, he can alter anything... Just himself and only about speed of his molecules... Stop the wanking.

Void is an intangible being... What if flash is running on him and he doesn't even know? Maybe all shadow is Void's body and he would just play with Flash? You don't need speed reaction nor anything when you're such a powerful and intangible being... Gosh...

this without the anger

#42 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@cooldes said:

@cadencev2: lol i already knew that about his powers, and i think you meant "writer" bendis definitely didn't create sentry.

Doh, I keep forgetting Bendis did not create him, Jenkins and Lee did. Bendis merely took said character that no one ever heard off and made him the center of every story in his New Avengers, Mighty Avengers, and Dark Avengers like the passed around whore character Sentry was.

My bad :).

#43 Edited by X_insignia1 (1393 posts) - - Show Bio

Void.

#44 Posted by Wardemon32 (4152 posts) - - Show Bio

This is hard because of the whole molecular control thing. But probably, just probably void.

#45 Posted by Cooldes (4097 posts) - - Show Bio
#46 Edited by GhostRavage (8955 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanwithatan01: Because people should just nod about every thing Flash might do with the speed force? Yeah, way to go...If Flash speedforce wankers weren't so short minded there wouldn't be any problem... My god... Awww Flash is a victim in the vine, god help him... NOT! Flash wins streak is over 9000, don't try to hide your whining making me look like im a Flash hater. Grow up.

@ghostravage said:

Omg... Void voidstomps... All the people saying Flash has total control over his molecules is BS... Flash can make them move as fast as he wants... But he doesn't have matter manipulation... He can't reconfigure anything, he can alter anything... Just himself and only about speed of his molecules... Stop the wanking.

Void is an intangible being... What if flash is running on him and he doesn't even know? Maybe all shadow is Void's body and he would just play with Flash? You don't need speed reaction nor anything when you're such a powerful and intangible being... Gosh...

I'm not disagreeing that Void wins, but Flash most certainly can affect the molecules of other things. It's how he phases other people through solid matter, lends speed, steals speed, or atomizes things.

Hmmm... Yeah, i meant he just can accelerate things, forgot about atomizing >.>... But can that be considered Matter Manipulation? I don't think so... Maybe 1/7 of all the stuff you can do with matter manipulation...

#47 Posted by WhiteLantern#1 (616 posts) - - Show Bio

@wardemon32: I would imagine it factors in. Since there is no way to harm the Void physically then it's a stalemate. Bob would never touch Wally. Morals off Wally heads into the speed force. If they fight idk what either could do to one another.

#48 Posted by HyperViper97 (1342 posts) - - Show Bio

Give flash speed stealing and void will still stomp

#49 Posted by WillPayton (9443 posts) - - Show Bio

While Void is certainly very powerful, he cant touch Flash or even react before Flash speed-steals him into a statue, or hits him with 1000 IMPs.

#50 Posted by GhostRavage (8955 posts) - - Show Bio

While Void is certainly very powerful, he cant touch Flash or even react before Flash speed-steals him into a statue, or hits him with 1000 IMPs.

How is void without PIS even able to be affected physically... Speed Steal darkness? Speedsteal intangibility? Nah... Flash dies...