@enough_said said:
And this is why i let you name the names. Because Any who fan would laugh at you for thinking the daleks and the master beating the doctor makes him look bad. The master is and always has been portrayed as being as smart or smarter than the doctor. He has solved paradoxes the entire timelord race, including the doctor couldn't solve, in mere moments. Even when he turned himself human, the Doctor remarked about his brilliance.
All you're doing is making excuses and ignoring what happened. This type of thing isn't usually allowed but do you honestly believe that either the Daleks or the Master would prove to be a threat to Thanos or LT? If so I don't know what to ya. Neither the Doctor or the Master are nigh-omnipotence, even with prep they are not. They're simply out of their league here. That's not low-balling them. He continuously places himself in vulnerable positions and survives via plot or with help.
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The daleks defeated the most powerful race in the whoverse. They are the only race in existence that elicits homicidal rage in the doctor. They have created objects that could wipe out all life on a omniversal level. And a way to protect themselves from it. The daleks and the master both would clear this gauntlet. If you knew anything about the things the master and the daleks had survived by their brilliance alone you wouldn't have even bothered. They have survived PreRetcon Beyonder level threats. The daleks war against the time lords (doctor an master included) had Gods fleeing that plane of reality.
The Daleks would have no shot at clearing this, neither would the Master (probably would run away again). LT is an omniversal threat and would defeat both quite easily. I think you're overrating them.
@enough_said said:
If you consider being beaten by either a low showing, you just won this debate for me. But you are allowed to your opinions. But it's clear you know little about this universe. I never called you a troll now did i? You might want to re-read that. And how about you take it down a level or two before shouting about respect. You've been quite rude from the jump. It's not my fault you decided to debate against a character you are unfamiliar with. I'm not wrong. And neither are you. These are all just opinions. Calm it down a bit. But uhm, yeah. I think we should debate other people. It's not you. It's me.
Who said that was a low showing? And this debate isn't about winning or losing, might want to check that ego. It just goes to prove that the Doctor has been defeated before, outsmarted and needed others to help him (and in this gauntlet there's no companions). A lot of the best moments the Doctor has are random and occur when he needs them the most, in this gauntlet he's more than likely to make a mistake and pay for it. These are heavy hitters he's going against.
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@enough_said said:
Hypothetical debates about fictional characters don't really score high on my emotional reaction meter. Nor do the people who troll them.
@enough_said said:I never called you a troll now did i? You might want to re-read that.
Yeah, just sorta implied it, didn't you? Back track all you want though, you're clearly the victim.
@enough_said said:
And how about you take it down a level or two before shouting about respect. You've been quite rude from the jump. It's not my fault you decided to debate against a character you are unfamiliar with. I'm not wrong. And neither are you. These are all just opinions. Calm it down a bit. But uhm, yeah. I think we should debate other people. It's not you. It's me.
I've been rude? Go ahead and quote where that has been. I posted my thoughts and all you've done is act condescending and to be honest very immature. Rather than address my points you've chosen to insult and claim superiority. Perhaps battles involving the Doctor Who universe are too close to your heart to be reasonable about.
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