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#1 Edited by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

 

  
 

prelude:

 
 
 

moments later:

 
 
 

and from there on:

 
 
 
 

the meet:

#2 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6023 posts) - - Show Bio

Shit , this would be probably the most brutal battle of all times . Doomsday can adapt , but Juggernaut can tap into more power by unleashing his rage and true evilness .
I would go with Juggernaut , since he can't really die , while Doomsday , how powerful and tough he is , still can be killed if you put enough effort to do it .
But if I remember well , Doomsday died too in that battle .

#3 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio

WOW!
Your setup is awesome
Juggernaut would lose though
 
Now here's how I think Juggernaut could win
If Cyttorak knew the power of Doomsday
He could give the Juggernaut the power to beat him from the start
But if he did like he did in WWHulk, Doomsday would be to powerful 
And Juggernaut would not have the time to gain enough power
 
This opinion is based off what has been shown in comics

#4 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@StrongestOneThereIs said:
" WOW!
Your setup is awesome
Juggernaut would lose though
 
Now here's how I think Juggernaut could win
If Cyttorak knew the power of Doomsday
He could give the Juggernaut the power to beat him from the start
But if he did like he did in WWHulk, Doomsday would be to powerful 
And Juggernaut would not have the time to gain enough power
 
This opinion is based off what has been shown in comics "
why wouldn't he have time?
#5 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" WOW!
Your setup is awesome
Juggernaut would lose though
 
Now here's how I think Juggernaut could win
If Cyttorak knew the power of Doomsday
He could give the Juggernaut the power to beat him from the start
But if he did like he did in WWHulk, Doomsday would be to powerful 
And Juggernaut would not have the time to gain enough power
 
This opinion is based off what has been shown in comics "
why wouldn't he have time? "
Has he been shown to instantly become strong?
Doomsday would be 100x stronger than him at the start
Unless Cyttorak is aware of DD's power and gives Juggs the power from the start
I see it going like the 1st battle with WWHulk before he received enough power to hang
#6 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio

except doomsday won't be able to hurt him, so again, why won't he have any time?

#7 Posted by Matezoide2 (15999 posts) - - Show Bio

stalemate

#8 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
" except doomsday won't be able to hurt him, so again, why won't he have any time? "
If you say so
But he's been hurt by greater power
Based on his level of power at the time
 
But there is no need to argue
I know you feel otherwise
 
Though I can't wait to see how this newest development with Cap Universe effects future statements

#9 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
" except doomsday won't be able to hurt him, so again, why won't he have any time? "
If you say so
But he's been hurt by greater power
Based on his level of power at the time
 
But there is no need to argue
I know you feel otherwise
 
Though I can't wait to see how this newest development with Cap Universe effects future statements "
it won't affect anything, since apparently he doesn't have a healing factor anymore either.
#10 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio

according to wiki, juggernaut will be on the new post siege thunderbolts team...interesting.

#11 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
" except doomsday won't be able to hurt him, so again, why won't he have any time? "
If you say so
But he's been hurt by greater power
Based on his level of power at the time
 
But there is no need to argue
I know you feel otherwise
 
Though I can't wait to see how this newest development with Cap Universe effects future statements "
it won't affect anything, since apparently he doesn't have a healing factor anymore either. "
It may show that he can be hurt like as always said
No matter that he heals from it

#12 Edited by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @the human Juggernaut said:

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
" except doomsday won't be able to hurt him, so again, why won't he have any time? "
If you say so
But he's been hurt by greater power
Based on his level of power at the time
 
But there is no need to argue
I know you feel otherwise
 
Though I can't wait to see how this newest development with Cap Universe effects future statements "
it won't affect anything, since apparently he doesn't have a healing factor anymore either. "
It may show that he can be hurt like as always said No matter that he heals from it "
...except he had a black eye and bloody nose hours after receiving it, even though he's been shown to heal from getting his eye cut out instantly
#13 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @the human Juggernaut said:

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
" except doomsday won't be able to hurt him, so again, why won't he have any time? "
If you say so
But he's been hurt by greater power
Based on his level of power at the time
 
But there is no need to argue
I know you feel otherwise
 
Though I can't wait to see how this newest development with Cap Universe effects future statements "
it won't affect anything, since apparently he doesn't have a healing factor anymore either. "
It may show that he can be hurt like as always said No matter that he heals from it "
...except he had a black eye and bloody nose hours after receiving it, even though he's been shown to heal from getting his eye cut out instantly "

I always felt that he healed almost instantly
I never felt that he couldn't be hurt 
But we will see

#14 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @the human Juggernaut said:

" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @the human Juggernaut said:
" except doomsday won't be able to hurt him, so again, why won't he have any time? "
If you say so
But he's been hurt by greater power
Based on his level of power at the time
 
But there is no need to argue
I know you feel otherwise
 
Though I can't wait to see how this newest development with Cap Universe effects future statements "
it won't affect anything, since apparently he doesn't have a healing factor anymore either. "
It may show that he can be hurt like as always said No matter that he heals from it "
...except he had a black eye and bloody nose hours after receiving it, even though he's been shown to heal from getting his eye cut out instantly "

I always felt that he healed almost instantly
I never felt that he couldn't be hurt  But we will see "
its great that you feel that way, but he didn't heal from the black eye and the nose problem, so obviously something else is going on
#15 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut: 
Maybe Cap u power is greater than Cyttorak's outside his Cosmos : 0

#16 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @the human Juggernaut:  Maybe Cap u power is greater than Cyttorak's outside his Cosmos : 0 "
yea, i guess he is but thor and war hulk are not.
#17 Posted by StrongestOneThereIs (6490 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:
" @the human Juggernaut:  Maybe Cap u power is greater than Cyttorak's outside his Cosmos : 0 "
yea, i guess he is but thor and war hulk are not. "


Touche
#18 Posted by King Hercules (1149 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut: 
@StrongestOneThereIs:
 
OMG! You two are talking without insults or jokes. Will miracles ever cease. I have to agree with human_juggernaut. Something isn't right. Hurting him is one thing, but keeping him from healing says that Cap U has done something to negate his power.

#19 Posted by -Unseen- (1114 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
"according to wiki, juggernaut will be on the new post siege thunderbolts team...interesting. "


 

I believe IGN has already done an interview with some of the people involved about it.
#20 Posted by Danilo018 (848 posts) - - Show Bio
@StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @the human Juggernaut:  Maybe Cap u power is greater than Cyttorak's outside his Cosmos : 0"

Or maybe new Cap. Universe host is Cyttorak himself :-).    
#21 Posted by Ortsab Ecnal (192 posts) - - Show Bio

doomsday adapts to injury while juggernaut is invulnerable injury period. hmm.. this is really hard to fathom, but can juggernaut move as fast as doomsday even when he is powered by the new power?

#22 Posted by FLCL1 (9287 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said:
"stalemate "
#23 Posted by King Hercules (1149 posts) - - Show Bio
@Danilo018 said:
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:

" @the human Juggernaut:  Maybe Cap u power is greater than Cyttorak's outside his Cosmos : 0"

Or maybe new Cap. Universe host is Cyttorak himself :-).     "
LOL!

#24 Posted by Ortsab Ecnal (192 posts) - - Show Bio

this is a nice set up.

#25 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

thx for the post
#26 Edited by kenshiroo (920 posts) - - Show Bio

I like the presentation of your thread.

Juggernaut will realize how strong, aggressive and tough is DD during his initial confrontation, probably DD get good shots at first to connect Juggernaut, but Juggernaut is immune to physical damage (punches) no matter what magnitude are, will not be hurt by them. Juggernaut can only be hurt by magic forces and hyperspace energies of the highest level (Celestial and Uni-Power levels).

DD does like to melee fight, unlike Supes, DD can not fly and can not use super speed blitz and will be hit by Cain when approaching him, no matter DD has super speed in some of his moves, at some point will be severely punched by Cain. When Juggernaut would realize how strong is his enemy, the counterattack will be with greater force and his fury in his punches hitting in the face of DD will be fatal, to the point that could break his bones around his eye sockets, nose and jaw and make him suffer in pain, and then, killing him with the blow of grace (DD bones are connected to his nervous system, which is a weakness that Supes found when broke the bone of DD's knee). With a single thought Juggernaut easily can increase his level of strength by calling the powers of the Gem of Cyttorak when he require increasing his strength for a greater effort than that he is doing usually.

DD can win by BFR temporarily.  
but Battle to death definitely Juggernaut wins.
#27 Posted by Perfect Cell (3470 posts) - - Show Bio

WOW!
This is a nice thread. It will take me some time to come up with the conclusion.

#28 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ortsab Ecnal said:
" doomsday adapts to injury while juggernaut is invulnerable injury period. hmm.. this is really hard to fathom, but can juggernaut move as fast as doomsday even when he is powered by the new power? "
his power will grant it to him if necessary. he can also steal momentum from objects and people too, and last time i check, is that doomsday has to move to kill. i just wonder if he can somehow adapt to that though.
 
 
 
 
 @kenshiroo said:
" I like the presentation of your thread.

Juggernaut will realize how strong, aggressive and tough is DD during his initial confrontation, probably DD get good shots at first to connect Juggernaut, but Juggernaut is immune to physical damage (punches) no matter what magnitude are, will not be hurt by them. Juggernaut can only be hurt by magic forces and hyperspace energies of the highest level (Celestial and Uni-Power levels).

DD does like to melee fight, unlike Supes, DD can not fly and can not use super speed blitz and will be hit by Cain when approaching him, no matter DD has super speed in some of his moves, at some point will be severely punched by Cain. When Juggernaut would realize how strong is his enemy, the counterattack will be with greater force and his fury in his punches hitting in the face of DD will be fatal, to the point that could break his bones around his eye sockets, nose and jaw and make him suffer in pain, and then, killing him with the blow of grace (DD bones are connected to his nervous system, which is a weakness that Supes found when broke the bone of DD's knee). With a single thought Juggernaut easily can increase his level of strength by calling the powers of the Gem of Cyttorak when he require increasing his strength for a greater effort than that he is doing usually.

DD can win by BFR temporarily.   but Battle to death definitely Juggernaut wins. "

ah man, thanks for the great evaluation. i had no idea that doomsday even had nerves to feel. then again, would he just adapt to the pain and be even more immune to juggernauts attacks? i already know that doomsday can move at ridiculous speeds, but like i mentioned up above, juggernaut can match it with his other power. i guess it just comes down to who has the higher stamina and durability which is juggernaut of course, i even if he does take doomsday out, how can he permanently kill him?
 
 
 
thanks for your post guys. i appreciate it.
#29 Posted by spidey 15 (17693 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice thread.... hhmmm..... this would be maybe a draw or Jugg should win since he can't really die....=]
#30 Posted by Doc X (575 posts) - - Show Bio

 I applaud your creativity,Take a Bow..........  However it will end in 3 moves,First: Doomsday uses his speed to get behind Jugg, Two: Doomsday rips off Jugg helmet , The third and final move:Protrudeing Razor sharp bone through Juggs Skull...Instant Death!!!

#31 Posted by Ortsab Ecnal (192 posts) - - Show Bio
doomsday adapts to injury while juggernaut is invulnerable injury period. hmm.. this is really hard to fathom, but can juggernaut move as fast as doomsday even when he is powered by the new power? 
#32 Edited by Ortsab Ecnal (192 posts) - - Show Bio

i will have to take doomsday in this fight because he has more speed.

#33 Posted by Sherlock (7181 posts) - - Show Bio
@Doc X said:
"  I applaud your creativity,Take a Bow..........  However it will end in 3 moves,First: Doomsday uses his speed to get behind Jugg, Two: Doomsday rips off Jugg helmet , The third and final move:Protrudeing Razor sharp bone through Juggs Skull...Instant Death!!!
"
Juggernaut is immune to physical injury......thats physical it wouldnt work 
 
 
                                Winner

#34 Posted by Doc X (575 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sherlock said:
" @Doc X said:
"  I applaud your creativity,Take a Bow..........  However it will end in 3 moves,First: Doomsday uses his speed to get behind Jugg, Two: Doomsday rips off Jugg helmet , The third and final move:Protrudeing Razor sharp bone through Juggs Skull...Instant Death!!!
"
Juggernaut is immune to physical injury......thats physical it wouldnt work 
 
 
                                Winner

"
Juggernaut is built for show ,  Doomsday is built to go
#35 Posted by Hebatary (99 posts) - - Show Bio
@Doc X said:
" @Sherlock said:
" @Doc X said:
"  I applaud your creativity,Take a Bow..........  However it will end in 3 moves,First: Doomsday uses his speed to get behind Jugg, Two: Doomsday rips off Jugg helmet , The third and final move:Protrudeing Razor sharp bone through Juggs Skull...Instant Death!!!
"
Juggernaut is immune to physical injury......thats physical it wouldnt work 
 
 
                                Winner

"
Juggernaut is built for show ,  Doomsday is built to go "Juggernaut is built to move. Doomsday is build to groove.
#36 Posted by jacobyLIVE (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

You have the most amazing threads, bro. LOL. Gotta go with DD here, though. As much as I love Juggernaut.

#37 Edited by kenshiroo (920 posts) - - Show Bio
@Lance Bastro said:

"ah man, thanks for the great evaluation. i had no idea that doomsday even had nerves to feel. then again, would he just adapt to the pain and be even more immune to juggernauts attacks? i already know that doomsday can move at ridiculous speeds, but like i mentioned up above, juggernaut can match it with his other power. i guess it just comes down to who has the higher stamina and durability which is juggernaut of course, i even if he does take doomsday out, how can he permanently kill him?    thanks for your post guys. i appreciate it. "

Good questions Lance_ Bastro, DD can certainly adapt gradually during the fight to resist blows and increase his strength and speed but to a limited extent because of his genes (his final evolutionary process begins with his regeneration and then ends with his resurrection), the difference is highlighted and will be marked as in which Cain soon will realize that DD is a adaptive fighting machine, able to withstand his blows at the beginning of the fight. This will encourage that Cain thinks an attack sharply faster and more powerful than the previous attack that prevents DD continue further progressively adapting against his strokes and thus Juggernaut can neutralize him.

Juggernaut will have an advantage in this because his strength is not determined by his genes but by the limitless magic of Cyttorak channeled through his gem. In this sense, Juggernaut can increase his strength with his single thought to exceed the strength of his adversary in this case DD and get to attack him with a mortal blow to annihilate him. 
 
I must include mention again that the strength of DD is limited during his struggle for his own genes. DD showed to be vulnerable to the latest punches of Supes and he died by the impact of these, which caused him a sort of dislocation of his neck (see the scan). His neck is very vulnerable, reason that Juggernaut can kill him by a similar way as Supes did, or a choke hold (arm lock). So, I reiterate the tactics will consist always that Juggernaut realizes as soon as possible about the adaptive nature of his adversary during his struggle, and then rapidly counter-attack him with a more deadly power.
 









 
Juggernaut can do DD mourn of pain by punching him hard and break or crush the bones of his face. If Doomsday dies with sprained neck as happened above in Death of Supes, this could take months or even years to resurrect him; therefore, this can entail a clear victory for Juggernaut.

 
I reiterate Juggernaut Wins.

#38 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

thx for posting guys. anymore thoughts regarding the fight?

#39 Posted by The White Lantern (170 posts) - - Show Bio

wow
i would like to see a movie about this epic fight
 
 Juggernaut will win no question about it

#40 Posted by rbysjti (10690 posts) - - Show Bio

Great soundtrack from Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go On!",)
 
Hmmmmm.... Juggy got scared at Onslaught. So I guess Doomsday would still win. BUt if Juggy will continue to fight even though he always gets the beating, Doomsday might get tired before Juggy's ruby power will tire out. Then Juggy has the edge.

#41 Posted by Cypher's Gambit (2098 posts) - - Show Bio

1st this:
 
 


 
then this:
 
 


Any questions?
#42 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio

 @Cypher's Gambit said:

" 1st this:
 
 


 
then this:
 
 

Any questions? "
nice scan. but i'm sure juggernaut will get up again for more fun. 
#43 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio

yea, if you read spiderman 628 you can see that cap universe isn't really capable of physically overpowering juggernaut

#44 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
" yea, if you read spiderman 628 you can see that cap universe isn't really capable of physically overpowering juggernaut "
i'm having a hard time looking for this comic. they're probably recalling it. lol
#45 Posted by Danilo018 (848 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut:
man what happened in that issue ? Who is new Cap Universe ? How did he manage to knock Juggy  ?
#46 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio
@Danilo018 said:
" @the human Juggernaut: man what happened in that issue ? Who is new Cap Universe ? How did he manage to knock Juggy  ? "
its someone whos life juggernaut ruined, and he also has telepathy which he used on spiderman.
#47 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut said:
" @Danilo018 said:
" @the human Juggernaut: man what happened in that issue ? Who is new Cap Universe ? How did he manage to knock Juggy  ? "
its someone whos life juggernaut ruined, and he also has telepathy which he used on spiderman. "
sounds like charlse xavier.
#48 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio







#49 Posted by Lance Bastro (4744 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut: 
 
thx human juggernaut! wow, it looks like juggeranut was trying to shield spiderman or something.
#50 Posted by Danilo018 (848 posts) - - Show Bio
@the human Juggernaut: 

haha so mutch for the DEATH OF CAIN. But anyway how relly CU manage to hurt Cain ?    And thanks for the scans