The Beyonders vs The Angels

Beyonders

VS

Rules

• Takes place in a neutral multiverse
• Victory by any means
• No prep

Beyonders.

The Beyonders look cool as hell.

I heard they defeated LT together or something? I would still put Lucifer and Michael together above LT but that is just me.

So I am going with DC Trio right now.

Tough one.

This comes down to Mike and Lucy vs. Beyonders. Spectre isn't up there.

I wasn't really impressed with the beyonders tbh.

Yes. They killed LT and all the other abstracts in the multiverse such as Eternity, Infinity, Chaos, Order, and all the Celestials. They've also destroyed virtually every universe in the multiverse.

Beyonders

@eisenfauste said:

You do realize the killed most of the Marvel Cosmic being including the likes of Eternity, Infinity, Lord Chaos & Master Order, The entire Celestial race and even The freaking Living Tribunal. Right?

Beyonders idk if micheal and lucifer can do it.

@jwwprod: Yeah I know. I still found them basic though.

Michael and Lucifer take this

Isn't Michael+Lucifer=The Presence lvl?

No. Nothing to prove that, or even suggest that. In fact, the Presence could erase the two together as easily as snapping his fingers.

@eisenfauste said:

What! You mean stomping the entire Celestial race (Which are billions mind you and 4 turned a universe into a multiverse)? Killing Eternity (Who has shown the power to recreate the entire multiverse) and of course stomping Living Tribunal (which I don't think I need to tell you how powerful he is) isn't impressive!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I think what Eisen is saying is that the whole event seemed rather lackluster. Yes, what they did was impressive featwise, but the way it was portrayed was meh.

I could be wrong though.

@jwwprod: On another note, when did they turn a universe into a multiverse?

@mysticmedivh said:

Here are the scans are from astonishing x-men #61

@jwwprod:Thought you were talking about the Beyonders. Misread. Yeah, I knew about the Celestial shaping universe thing.

@mysticmedivh said:

Yes I know were talking about the Beyonders here.

I'm just showing the scan of 4 Celestials creating the multiverse by splitting a universe into a multiverse.

No no.

Let's take a step back.

What! You mean stomping the entire Celestial race (Which are billions mind you and 4 turned a universe into a multiverse)? Killing Eternity (Who has shown the power to recreate the entire multiverse) and of course stomping Living Tribunal (which I don't think I need to tell you how powerful he is) isn't impressive!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

For a moment there I misread and thought you said that 4 Beyonders turned a universe into a mutltivere. Which is why I asked for a scan, but realized that I misread.

@mysticmedivh said:

LOL!

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@mysticmedivh said:

I was loling cause you made a mistake while reading :)

Doubt you were literally lolling.

Tough call. Very tough. Although I guess I'd lean toward the Beyonders for now... meh. It's a coin toss.

DC Trio

Lucy and Michael = LT. Beyonders got this.

Unproven.

I honestly don't know i mean three of these guys wiped out marvel creation and major cosmic entities. Then again michael by himself can also do that. I guess i shall go for DC since i don't know how smart the ivory kings are and lucy is really smart.

@mysticmedivh: I know, but I like to think so even if its not so accurate

DC Trio.

@primebonnick: Michael himself doing that. Ha!

Ivory Kings FTW. They didn't even look like they were trying while killing EVERYTHING. The sheer amount of power aligned against them in the Marvel Universe would seem to cumulatively dwarf the DC Trio.

killing him does do that so i don't see why can't he do that himself since he is in control of the unlimited power.

Lucifer and Michael are on The Tribunal's level individually - therefore it's going to take more than three Beyonders to win this fight.

There's also the fact that they become weaker and more vulnerable in a solid state, as proven by Ex Nihilo, who managed to transform a Beyonder and Starbrand killing one also. If these type of beings have the power to take Beyonders out, then the two Brothers who have the power to end all of creation in an instant or shape creation to their whim certainly have a chance.

Spectre could potentially be a slight help, nevertheless he's so far behind the Brothers that he probably won't register.

LT could beat this team, beyonders will have no trouble

Reading Time Runs Out, The Beyonders did a lot of impressive feats but it took an ARMY of them to kill The Living Tribunal. And I don't think four celestials actually created the multiverse. It shows four but it was just implying that Celestials as a whole created teh multiverse with their power.

The Beyonders are scientist types who created the Beyonder right? And how is it that they were able to destroy LT? We know they are powerful but I think in this recent run, Marvel deliberately made the other entities weaker. And I like how it's not a dick measuring contest. They had a plan and experiments to make sure that the multiverse would be destroyed. And let's not forget that The Beyonders lost to Doom. And Thor and Hyperion managed to kill one I think.

I know that The Beyonders are used as a literary device by the writers and all as a way to restart the Marvel Multiverse, but I think many of us fans wanna know just how concrete their powers are. And also how they relate to The Beyonder and to prev marvel history

• Three of them killed the Living Tribunal, and as far as armies go for the most part, three is hardly an army.
• The Celestials shaped the universe and with the power of their will they split that universe into the multiverse. It's not exactly the same as creating a multiverse as a whole, one action triggered a much larger action, the way I interpret it.
• Thor and Hyperion never actually killed one. Starbrand did, but the Beyonders that Thor, Hyperion, and Starbrand were facing were fodder and not on par with the Ivory Kings.
• I haven't been keeping up with the latest SW, what issue did Doom beat a Beyonder?

DC

Beyonders no question.

They are outside of the DC/Marvel Multiverse and are Gods of their own Multiverse.

The DC trio fighting the Beyonders is as fruitless as them fighting against the Prescence, which we already know they would lose against.

Ivory Kings.

They do ikr, ima make a pic where they have on sunglasses.

They are sooo raw

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At the end of Lucifer's series, he was outside of creation. He was also the God of his own multiverse. The Presence is omnipotent, the Beyonders are not.

Ivory Kings for me .

DC team god stomps . They can't kill Lucifer

The Beyonders win this

Except that's not true. The Prescence stated that he was only omnipotent in his own domain and also admitted to being created by even more powerful beings. Outside of his creation, he only knows randomness.

Lucifer was not omnipotent either, he was just given his own domain to rule. That doesn't mean he's capable of destroying other mutliverses, while the Beyonders are. They can lay waste to multiverses not native to them which makes them powerful among godly beings.