@czarny_samael: Ugh. What exactly was so wrong with the Beyonder's initial origin that they had to keep screwing around with this? It's almost as ridiculous as Power Girl, except with much less reason.
Pre-Recton, 1st Post Retcon, 2nd Post Recton, and 3rd Post Retcon can beat any Phoenix.
The 4th Post Retcon Beyonder loses though.
Not true post recton Beyonder was told that he/she/it wasn't even more powerful than a Celestial, and was told about the Phoenix and basically how much more powerful Dark Phoenix as in comparision as she is just the power the fuels the stars on her period. But maybe that is what you meant, only 1st Beyonder is more powerful, the others are a joke, Mutant X Beyonder (even though Beyonder is supposed to a singular being) wasn't even as powerful as the Phoenixs shadow (Gobin Force)
Pre-Recton, 1st Post Retcon, 2nd Post Recton, and 3rd Post Retcon can beat any Phoenix.
The 4th Post Retcon Beyonder loses though.
Not true post recton Beyonder was told that he/she/it wasn't even more powerful than a Celestial, and was told about the Phoenix and basically how much more powerful Dark Phoenix as in comparision as she is just the power the fuels the stars on her period. But maybe that is what you meant, only 1st Beyonder is more powerful, the others are a joke, Mutant X Beyonder (even though Beyonder is supposed to a singular being) wasn't even as powerful as the Phoenixs shadow (Gobin Force)
But the 1st Post-Recton Beyonder is Secret War II. The 2nd Post fought Protege and the 3rd is the Cosmic Cube while the "current" one that the OP is taking about is the In-Human/Mutant Beyonder (the 4th Post).
1st & 2nd Post can certainly beat Phoenix.
3rd Post equal
4th Post seemed weaker than Stranger and well-fed Galactus.
Not true post recton Beyonder was told that he/she/it wasn't even more powerful than a Celestial
When did this happen? Arent you getting confused with Kubik's words vs Beyonder's? Also in line with Spiderman actually re-making entire reality with but a fraction of his powers for a nanosecond, or his fight with Molecule Man causing a trans-multiversal destruction, him being less powerful than Celestial sounds like a pure garbage whoever was the writer, biggest guess, likely Bendis :p
and was told about the Phoenix and basically how much more powerful Dark Phoenix as in comparision as she is just the power the fuels the stars on her period.
I am certainly lost to what you are trying to say here.
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning: This is stupid. I don't care which version Marvel decides Beyonder is but they should fracking stick with one.
There has actually realistically been 2 version of Beyonder. Firstly the one that appeared in Secret Wars 1 and 2, and there certainly isnt anything that would suggest the Beyonder who appared in Secret Wars 1 was any different from what appeared in Secret Wars 2. The second being a cosmic cube being. I dont see why people think GOTG beyonder was any different from his cosmic cube counterpart, apart from that being Beyonder in the future. Protege came in, copied his powers and left, certainly nothing to show it was a different Beyonder altogether unless i am missing something.
The statement as inhuman beyonder is but a one off statement made in comics, in fact every bio published on Beyonder, including the most recent Official Handbook of Marvel Universe A to Z #1 keeps him as a cosmic cube being (something which was recently pointed to be by Mr. Masters, who is generally accepted as cosmic expert in KMC).
So its only 2 version, pre-recton and post recton.
current version of Beyonder is Mutant Inhuman Beyonder, not Cosmic Cube version, with this current version, what happened in Secret Wars is canon, meaning Beyonder is above Galactus, he even created his own Galactus and superheroes, there's nothing in comics that specify a limit to his powers, he migh be even with equal powers to PR Beyonder, but we can't tell.
this version of Beyonder is defintely stronger than Phoenix, since he created duplicates of power and personalities of all peope he met in Secret Wars including Phoenix.
If some people have actually read story lines instead of looking at Wiki, they would know this and the fact that it is Beyonder who is the one that "rectons" himself each time.
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