I understand that, it's fine man. I'm not super sensitive to that stuff. If someone believes in something different then me, it's their right and choice. I don't force my views onto anyone else but at the same time like you said yourself, just ask for others to respect what I believe in as well :)
On beyonder, there's really nothing to prove when he's a fictional character...fiction means not real dude lol. When someone imagines someone, they're making it up out of nowhere...it doesn't mean they really "exist"
Look at comics, games, movies in general. Just because Superman and Spiderman are popular "fictional characters" doesn't make them real...and I'm a huge Superman fan here so I assure you, I will show no bias either way.
Just trying to tell you that everything fiction=not real, thus there's obvious substantial proof right there telling so.
the beyonder vs old old testament god
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Fiction
–noun
1. | the class of literature comprising works of imaginative narration, esp. in prose form. |
Imagine
–verb (used with object)
1. to form a mental image of (something not actually present to the senses).
or
to envision; to fantasize; to visualize; to think; to assume
You can visualize something that does exist or you can visualize something that does not.
You can imagine things that exist or you can imagine things that do not.
imagine a jaguar that whose fur is black, this happens to exist
imagine horse with white fur and a horn growing out of it forehead, this happens to not exist.
I hope you I'm being clear. Maybe a real example is better. Scientist imagined subatomic particles called electrons, protons, and, neutrons but did not have the technology to observe them or prove they existed, they just imagined atoms to be composed of these particles because of the properties of the atoms. Now we have the technology to prove their existence. or early astronomers imagined that there were other solar systems with planets orbiting them, now we can see that they do in fact exist.
"@Cezar_TheScribe said:Though I personally do not believe in God, I still find it offensive, rude, presumptions and arrogant to question another man's faith and belief in his God. Edit: Correction, I'm agnostic "" @MKF30 said:
"You're correct, MKF30. King Saturn, if you believed in God you would have picked Him. "No, I mean real life God not fictional "gods" nothing is superior to real God. ;)
"
I have to judge righteous judgement. ;)
You're Agnostic? So, you don't know what to believe.
"@vuviper said:"@Cezar_TheScribe said:Though I personally do not believe in God, I still find it offensive, rude, presumptions and arrogant to question another man's faith and belief in his God. Edit: Correction, I'm agnostic "" @MKF30 said:
"You're correct, MKF30. King Saturn, if you believed in God you would have picked Him. "No, I mean real life God not fictional "gods" nothing is superior to real God. ;)
"
I have to judge righteous judgement. ;)
You're Agnostic? So, you don't know what to believe. "
lol ^ it's good to come on here and a see a sense of humor for once. I say the same to my friend all the time, but to each his own I suppose.
" @vuviper said:I don't know what to believe? close..."@Cezar_TheScribe said:Though I personally do not believe in God, I still find it offensive, rude, presumptions and arrogant to question another man's faith and belief in his God. Edit: Correction, I'm agnostic "" @MKF30 said:
"You're correct, MKF30. King Saturn, if you believed in God you would have picked Him. "No, I mean real life God not fictional "gods" nothing is superior to real God. ;)
"
I have to judge righteous judgement. ;)
You're Agnostic? So, you don't know what to believe. "
I believe that I don't know.
God beats comic book pre-recton "God".
@Cezar_TheScribe
said:Agnostic means that a person may or may not believe in a higher power, which doesn't necessarily mean God. In those cases, they usually choose their beliefs for a greater variety of reasons, as opposed to straight-out believing or not believing in God. Most commonly, it is because they do not totally accept theism or atheism, or simply feel it is impossible to truly know." @vuviper said:
"@Cezar_TheScribe said:
Though I personally do not believe in God, I still find it offensive, rude, presumptions and arrogant to question another man's faith and belief in his God. Edit: Correction, I'm agnostic "" @MKF30 said:
"You're correct, MKF30. King Saturn, if you believed in God you would have picked Him. "No, I mean real life God not fictional "gods" nothing is superior to real God. ;)
"
I have to judge righteous judgement. ;)
You're Agnostic? So, you don't know what to believe. "
" God = Extreme Massacre for the beyonder Moses could slaughter the beyonder "No to both
" @Lance Uppercut: God massacres the beyonder within a sec "
Beyonder has better feats then Old Testament god does.
" God has better feats a mere human can look at God or they will die Plenty of humans have seen the beyonder and lived God stomps "It took God seven days to create the earth. It took the Beyonder a snap of his fingers to destroy and then recreate the omniverse. God has no feats in comparison to this.
" @Lance Uppercut: God just said let their be light and the earth created its self and then he create humans and animals Feats You can look at God and live Plenty of People see The Beyonder and live God stomps "It took god seven days to create humans and animals? That's even worse. God has no omniversal feats.
" @nickj54 said:" God has better feats a mere human can look at God or they will die Plenty of humans have seen the beyonder and lived God stomps "It took God seven days to create the earth. It took the Beyonder a snap of his fingers to destroy and then recreate the omniverse. God has no feats in comparison to this."
no actually it took him six days, he "rested" the seventh day.(church, sabbeth day, if ur into that and all)
" @Lance Uppercut: it did take him seven days to create animals he did it piece by piece Im positive God could destroy and recreate the world in a blink of a eye "So could Beyonder, who snapped his fingers and recreated the omniverse.
" without the real god, beyonder wouldn't have existed. stan lee woun't have existed. "Proof?
@nickj54 said:
" God could blink him out of existence God kills the writers of the beyonder no more beyonder God stomps "
God can't do anything of those things.
" @Grand Ninja said:yes. stan lee is 86 years old now. he will be meeting his maker soon. =(" without the real god, beyonder wouldn't have existed. stan lee woun't have existed. "Proof?
@nickj54 said:" God could blink him out of existence God kills the writers of the beyonder no more beyonder God stomps "God can't do anything of those things. "
" God is real proof is my existence and God can destroy and recreate the world in a blink of a eye He spoke a created everything "No
you guys are playing with fire at a gas station....a gas station that should not have been built in the first place....might i suggest stopping it..before things start HEATING up....
and whoever said without God there wouldnt be a beyonder and stan lee........IS ABSOLUTLY RIGHT, amen.
"Give me a comic book with Beyonder on the cover and I can beat him. Simply rip the book up or set it on fire. Real life trumps fiction. God wins. Anyone saying other wise is just retarded. "
You know the exact same thing can be done with any religious piece of literachure or icons / artifacts all that jazz, given the appropriate tools are provided to destroy them, it doesn't at all take divine power to burn the bible, go crazy in a church with a chain saw or whatever else your feeling like destroying that involves some sort of god or gods.
@nickj54
said: Going by the same logic, the same god killed the writers of his book with old age, then those writers children, and their children's children." God could blink him out of existence God kills the writers of the beyonder no more beyonder God stomps "
Jeeze what a thank you from God.
@Grand Ninja:
Stan Lee's work has given him a sense of immortality as long as Marvel is around making comics based off his characters. Like many writers of various Novels or pieces of literature, poems all that pretty stuff giving their creater immortality to anyone that can read it. :P
All in all, I have no problem with saying I believe in God, I can't prove his existence and I am certaintly lacking in evidence.
I can't say he created the Universe, I like to believe he had some hand in it, but thats faith, thats all you can really bring into this debate and for many people OT is just as much as a piece of fiction as the Beyonder.
A non biased opinion gives this battle to the Beyonder, he has better on panel feats.
wft." @nickj54 said:
" God is real proof is my existence and God can destroy and recreate the world in a blink of a eye He spoke a created everything "No "
firstly he created the universe purposely in 7 days for a reason(if you ever went to a church)
secondly God Blinks beyonder out of existence :)
Excellent oration, and very true.@Grand Ninja:
Stan Lee's work has given him a sense of immortality as long as Marvel is around making comics based off his characters. Like many writers of various Novels or pieces of literature, poems all that pretty stuff giving their creater immortality to anyone that can read it. :P All in all, I have no problem with saying I believe in God, I can't prove his existence and I am certaintly lacking in evidence. I can't say he created the Universe, I like to believe he had some hand in it, but thats faith, thats all you can really bring into this debate and for many people OT is just as much as a piece of fiction as the Beyonder. A non biased opinion gives this battle to the Beyonder, he has better on panel feats. "
" @Lance Uppercut said:Yeah. because apparently he didn't have the balls to do it in sevenwft. firstly he created the universe purposely in 7 days for a reason(if you ever went to a church) secondly God Blinks beyonder out of existence :) "" @nickj54 said:
" God is real proof is my existence and God can destroy and recreate the world in a blink of a eye He spoke a created everything "No "
And how is he going to blink an omnipotent being out of existence? I mean, God has dominion over man. Beyonder has dominion over the omniverse.
" @Hellos said:feat wise yes.Excellent oration, and very true. "@Grand Ninja:
Stan Lee's work has given him a sense of immortality as long as Marvel is around making comics based off his characters. Like many writers of various Novels or pieces of literature, poems all that pretty stuff giving their creater immortality to anyone that can read it. :P All in all, I have no problem with saying I believe in God, I can't prove his existence and I am certaintly lacking in evidence. I can't say he created the Universe, I like to believe he had some hand in it, but thats faith, thats all you can really bring into this debate and for many people OT is just as much as a piece of fiction as the Beyonder. A non biased opinion gives this battle to the Beyonder, he has better on panel feats. "
but Omnipotent cannot kill omnipotent. so in that sence stalemate.
but beyonder is just a comic character compared to the god people believe in. so in that case GOD OWNS.
" @"Colossus" said:QFT." @Lance Uppercut said:Yeah. because apparently he didn't have the balls to do it in seven And how is he going to blink an omnipotent being out of existence? I mean, God has dominion over man. Beyonder has dominion over the omniverse. "wft. firstly he created the universe purposely in 7 days for a reason(if you ever went to a church) secondly God Blinks beyonder out of existence :) "" @nickj54 said:
" God is real proof is my existence and God can destroy and recreate the world in a blink of a eye He spoke a created everything "No "
" @Tevnoba said:God has yet to prove him omnipotence. What omniversal feats does he have? Mephisto has been described as Omnipotent in his own realm, and yet Galactus nearly devoured it." @Hellos said:feat wise yes. but Omnipotent cannot kill omnipotent. so in that sence stalemate. but beyonder is just a comic character compared to the god people believe in. so in that case GOD OWNS. "Excellent oration, and very true. "@Grand Ninja:
Stan Lee's work has given him a sense of immortality as long as Marvel is around making comics based off his characters. Like many writers of various Novels or pieces of literature, poems all that pretty stuff giving their creater immortality to anyone that can read it. :P All in all, I have no problem with saying I believe in God, I can't prove his existence and I am certaintly lacking in evidence. I can't say he created the Universe, I like to believe he had some hand in it, but thats faith, thats all you can really bring into this debate and for many people OT is just as much as a piece of fiction as the Beyonder. A non biased opinion gives this battle to the Beyonder, he has better on panel feats. "
I believe in Beyonder. I am now choosing him as my personal deity. Therefore, seeing as how someone now believes in him, he owns.
*SIgh*" @Lance Uppercut said:
QFT. "" @"Colossus" said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:Yeah. because apparently he didn't have the balls to do it in seven And how is he going to blink an omnipotent being out of existence? I mean, God has dominion over man. Beyonder has dominion over the omniverse. "wft. firstly he created the universe purposely in 7 days for a reason(if you ever went to a church) secondly God Blinks beyonder out of existence :) "" @nickj54 said:
" God is real proof is my existence and God can destroy and recreate the world in a blink of a eye He spoke a created everything "No "
he did it in seven days to symbolize a "week" .................
Toaa in comics has no feats and uses LT to run the multiverse, does that mean he cant? does that mean hes not omnipotent????
" @Baldy said:According to who?" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @"Colossus" said:" @Lance Uppercut said:" @nickj54 said:Acor
" @"Colossus" said:If I renounce Xenu can i join your new religion? All the cool kids are doin it." @Tevnoba said:God has yet to prove him omnipotence. What omniversal feats does he have? Mephisto has been described as Omnipotent in his own realm, and yet Galactus nearly devoured it. I believe in Beyonder. I am now choosing him as my personal deity. Therefore, seeing as how someone now believes in him, he owns. "" @Hellos said:feat wise yes. but Omnipotent cannot kill omnipotent. so in that sence stalemate. but beyonder is just a comic character compared to the god people believe in. so in that case GOD OWNS. "Excellent oration, and very true. "@Grand Ninja:
Stan Lee's work has given him a sense of immortality as long as Marvel is around making comics based off his characters. Like many writers of various Novels or pieces of literature, poems all that pretty stuff giving their creater immortality to anyone that can read it. :P All in all, I have no problem with saying I believe in God, I can't prove his existence and I am certaintly lacking in evidence. I can't say he created the Universe, I like to believe he had some hand in it, but thats faith, thats all you can really bring into this debate and for many people OT is just as much as a piece of fiction as the Beyonder. A non biased opinion gives this battle to the Beyonder, he has better on panel feats. "
Toaa in comics has no feats to prove his omnipotence and uses LT to run the multiverse, does that mean he cant? does that mean hes not omnipotent????
so saying God has no feats meaning hes not omnipotent would be the same as saying Toaa in comics is not omnipotent because he has no feats......
" @Lance Uppercut said:Sure. We're simply waiting for the return of the Prophet Tupac Shakur" @"Colossus" said:If I renounce Xenu can i join your new religion? All the cool kids are doin it. "" @Tevnoba said:God has yet to prove him omnipotence. What omniversal feats does he have? Mephisto has been described as Omnipotent in his own realm, and yet Galactus nearly devoured it. I believe in Beyonder. I am now choosing him as my personal deity. Therefore, seeing as how someone now believes in him, he owns. "" @Hellos said:feat wise yes. but Omnipotent cannot kill omnipotent. so in that sence stalemate. but beyonder is just a comic character compared to the god people believe in. so in that case GOD OWNS. "Excellent oration, and very true. "@Grand Ninja:
Stan Lee's work has given him a sense of immortality as long as Marvel is around making comics based off his characters. Like many writers of various Novels or pieces of literature, poems all that pretty stuff giving their creater immortality to anyone that can read it. :P All in all, I have no problem with saying I believe in God, I can't prove his existence and I am certaintly lacking in evidence. I can't say he created the Universe, I like to believe he had some hand in it, but thats faith, thats all you can really bring into this debate and for many people OT is just as much as a piece of fiction as the Beyonder. A non biased opinion gives this battle to the Beyonder, he has better on panel feats. "
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