@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
The Battle Royale: Episode - X Men
@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
@Son Of Storm said:She can only do that if she's actually conscious or in control of her actions. Emma is too powerful for Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
When has current Psylocke held off Shadow King?
Shaw was supercharged as well as being fueled by rage.
@EpitomeofCool said:shes not to powerful becuse psylocke can hold her off an tk win....shaw still had no psyic defences....op they are at there most powerful..@Son Of Storm said:She can only do that if she's actually conscious or in control of her actions. Emma is too powerful for Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
When has current Psylocke held off Shadow King?
Shaw was supercharged as well as being fueled by rage.
Team 1
Jean + Emma + Iceman + Magneto shall lead the team to victory
@Son Of Storm said:But that's what your not getting. She wont have a chance to use her TK becuase Emma would overpower her.@EpitomeofCool said:shes not to powerful becuse psylocke can hold her off an tk win....shaw still had no psyic defences....op they are at there most powerful..@Son Of Storm said:She can only do that if she's actually conscious or in control of her actions. Emma is too powerful for Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
When has current Psylocke held off Shadow King?
Shaw was supercharged as well as being fueled by rage.
Shaw's mind was like a shark according to Emma. Psylocke's mind would hardly compare to Shaw's.
@EpitomeofCool said:your not getting that she can hold her off, emma cant take her out in a sec.......she can utilize both abilites.....her mind wouldnt compare to shaws beucse it would be much greater...if these people with no psyic abilites can do it, that only make it easier for psylocke...she can tk bombard her forceing emma to take evasive action, breaking her concentration or forcing her into diamond form which would allow psylocke to get in close to her with a psyic sword or knife... psylocke is not weak in a mental battle, her tk gives her the upper hand...she may not be a superior telepath, but she is more than capable of defending her self long enough to take her out via tk......@Son Of Storm said:But that's what your not getting. She wont have a chance to use her TK becuase Emma would overpower her.@EpitomeofCool said:shes not to powerful becuse psylocke can hold her off an tk win....shaw still had no psyic defences....op they are at there most powerful..@Son Of Storm said:She can only do that if she's actually conscious or in control of her actions. Emma is too powerful for Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
When has current Psylocke held off Shadow King?
Shaw was supercharged as well as being fueled by rage.
Shaw's mind was like a shark according to Emma. Psylocke's mind would hardly compare to Shaw's.
@Son Of Storm said:And you do realize the second that Shaw gave Emma some space she completely tricked him and wiped his memory. The whole Shaw thing was actually stupid to begin with. Do you honestly believe Emma would transport what she considers to be one of the worlds most dangerous men without informing her team of what he can do? Psylocke would have to give her full concentration to have any chance to hold off Emma's attack. If she does this she won't have any power left to use her TK. Current Psylocke doesn't have the power to compete with Emma enough where she could hold her off and fight back.@EpitomeofCool said:your not getting that she can hold her off, emma cant take her out in a sec.......she can utilize both abilites.....her mind wouldnt compare to shaws beucse it would be much greater...if these people with no psyic abilites can do it, that only make it easier for psylocke...she can tk bombard her forceing emma to take evasive action, breaking her concentration or forcing her into diamond form which would allow psylocke to get in close to her with a psyic sword or knife... psylocke is not weak in a mental battle, her tk gives her the upper hand...she may not be a superior telepath, but she is more than capable of defending her self long enough to take her out via tk......@Son Of Storm said:But that's what your not getting. She wont have a chance to use her TK becuase Emma would overpower her.@EpitomeofCool said:shes not to powerful becuse psylocke can hold her off an tk win....shaw still had no psyic defences....op they are at there most powerful..@Son Of Storm said:She can only do that if she's actually conscious or in control of her actions. Emma is too powerful for Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
When has current Psylocke held off Shadow King?
Shaw was supercharged as well as being fueled by rage.
Shaw's mind was like a shark according to Emma. Psylocke's mind would hardly compare to Shaw's.
@EpitomeofCool said:she couldnt shut him down the first 2 times and was forced into diamond, the third time she got him..the thing is, shaws not a telepath..psylocke can do this w/out getting into an all out psy war..she puts up her psychic defenses while attacking her with tk and beats her..@Son Of Storm said:And you do realize the second that Shaw gave Emma some space she completely tricked him and wiped his memory. The whole Shaw thing was actually stupid to begin with. Do you honestly believe Emma would transport what she considers to be one of the worlds most dangerous men without informing her team of what he can do? Psylocke would have to give her full concentration to have any chance to hold off Emma's attack. If she does this she won't have any power left to use her TK. Current Psylocke doesn't have the power to compete with Emma enough where she could hold her off and fight back.@EpitomeofCool said:your not getting that she can hold her off, emma cant take her out in a sec.......she can utilize both abilites.....her mind wouldnt compare to shaws beucse it would be much greater...if these people with no psyic abilites can do it, that only make it easier for psylocke...she can tk bombard her forceing emma to take evasive action, breaking her concentration or forcing her into diamond form which would allow psylocke to get in close to her with a psyic sword or knife... psylocke is not weak in a mental battle, her tk gives her the upper hand...she may not be a superior telepath, but she is more than capable of defending her self long enough to take her out via tk......@Son Of Storm said:But that's what your not getting. She wont have a chance to use her TK becuase Emma would overpower her.@EpitomeofCool said:shes not to powerful becuse psylocke can hold her off an tk win....shaw still had no psyic defences....op they are at there most powerful..@Son Of Storm said:She can only do that if she's actually conscious or in control of her actions. Emma is too powerful for Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
When has current Psylocke held off Shadow King?
Shaw was supercharged as well as being fueled by rage.
Shaw's mind was like a shark according to Emma. Psylocke's mind would hardly compare to Shaw's.
..she does since they are at the highest potential.....she is physically above emma, and can mix her attacks..
@Son Of Storm said:Shaw's mind was full of rage. That's why she couldn't get through to him at first. Add that to him being supercharged by that fall and you the Shaw that gives Emma trouble. This wouldn't be the case with Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:she couldnt shut him down the first 2 times and was forced into diamond, the third time she got him..the thing is, shaws not a telepath..psylocke can do this w/out getting into an all out psy war..she puts up her psychic defenses while attacking her with tk and beats her.. ..she does since they are at the highest potential.....she is physically above emma, and can mix her attacks..@Son Of Storm said:And you do realize the second that Shaw gave Emma some space she completely tricked him and wiped his memory. The whole Shaw thing was actually stupid to begin with. Do you honestly believe Emma would transport what she considers to be one of the worlds most dangerous men without informing her team of what he can do? Psylocke would have to give her full concentration to have any chance to hold off Emma's attack. If she does this she won't have any power left to use her TK. Current Psylocke doesn't have the power to compete with Emma enough where she could hold her off and fight back.@EpitomeofCool said:your not getting that she can hold her off, emma cant take her out in a sec.......she can utilize both abilites.....her mind wouldnt compare to shaws beucse it would be much greater...if these people with no psyic abilites can do it, that only make it easier for psylocke...she can tk bombard her forceing emma to take evasive action, breaking her concentration or forcing her into diamond form which would allow psylocke to get in close to her with a psyic sword or knife... psylocke is not weak in a mental battle, her tk gives her the upper hand...she may not be a superior telepath, but she is more than capable of defending her self long enough to take her out via tk......@Son Of Storm said:But that's what your not getting. She wont have a chance to use her TK becuase Emma would overpower her.@EpitomeofCool said:shes not to powerful becuse psylocke can hold her off an tk win....shaw still had no psyic defences....op they are at there most powerful..@Son Of Storm said:She can only do that if she's actually conscious or in control of her actions. Emma is too powerful for Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
When has current Psylocke held off Shadow King?
Shaw was supercharged as well as being fueled by rage.
Shaw's mind was like a shark according to Emma. Psylocke's mind would hardly compare to Shaw's.
This is what you're not getting. Psylocke isn't strong enough to withstand an assault from Emma. She would have to put ALL her strength into her defenses. Which probably still wouldn't be enough. Psylocke doesn't have the raw power needed to keep out Emma and use TK.
Current Psylocke's highest potential is lower that Emma's norm. A bloodlusted Emma would tear her mind apart.Just because we're using highest potential doesn't mean we ignore character weakness.
Which would be an automatic death sentence for her because as stated by her if she uses both abilities at the same time both of them degrade in strength. So the second it would take for her to try and use her TK would be the second her TP slips and allows Emma to move in even more easily to kill or take over her.
@EpitomeofCool said:and in the psylocke is bloodlusted w/ no morals, not that different.....what your not getting is that she is in fact...she can hold her own against shadowking, she can do it to emma and tk her at the same time.....emma is not tearing her mind apart she wont get the chance here...she dosnt need to use alot of tk, just a small push to the brian, she has enough strenght to do this...there is no indication to how fat apart they are, if they are close this will happen fast..@Son Of Storm said:Shaw's mind was full of rage. That's why she couldn't get through to him at first. Add that to him being supercharged by that fall and you the Shaw that gives Emma trouble. This wouldn't be the case with Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:she couldnt shut him down the first 2 times and was forced into diamond, the third time she got him..the thing is, shaws not a telepath..psylocke can do this w/out getting into an all out psy war..she puts up her psychic defenses while attacking her with tk and beats her.. ..she does since they are at the highest potential.....she is physically above emma, and can mix her attacks..@Son Of Storm said:And you do realize the second that Shaw gave Emma some space she completely tricked him and wiped his memory. The whole Shaw thing was actually stupid to begin with. Do you honestly believe Emma would transport what she considers to be one of the worlds most dangerous men without informing her team of what he can do? Psylocke would have to give her full concentration to have any chance to hold off Emma's attack. If she does this she won't have any power left to use her TK. Current Psylocke doesn't have the power to compete with Emma enough where she could hold her off and fight back.@EpitomeofCool said:your not getting that she can hold her off, emma cant take her out in a sec.......she can utilize both abilites.....her mind wouldnt compare to shaws beucse it would be much greater...if these people with no psyic abilites can do it, that only make it easier for psylocke...she can tk bombard her forceing emma to take evasive action, breaking her concentration or forcing her into diamond form which would allow psylocke to get in close to her with a psyic sword or knife... psylocke is not weak in a mental battle, her tk gives her the upper hand...she may not be a superior telepath, but she is more than capable of defending her self long enough to take her out via tk......@Son Of Storm said:But that's what your not getting. She wont have a chance to use her TK becuase Emma would overpower her.@EpitomeofCool said:shes not to powerful becuse psylocke can hold her off an tk win....shaw still had no psyic defences....op they are at there most powerful..@Son Of Storm said:She can only do that if she's actually conscious or in control of her actions. Emma is too powerful for Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
When has current Psylocke held off Shadow King?
Shaw was supercharged as well as being fueled by rage.
Shaw's mind was like a shark according to Emma. Psylocke's mind would hardly compare to Shaw's.
This is what you're not getting. Psylocke isn't strong enough to withstand an assault from Emma. She would have to put ALL her strength into her defenses. Which probably still wouldn't be enough. Psylocke doesn't have the raw power needed to keep out Emma and use TK.
Current Psylocke's highest potential is lower that Emma's norm. A bloodlusted Emma would tear her mind apart.Just because we're using highest potential doesn't mean we ignore character weakness.
Which would be an automatic death sentence for her because as stated by her if she uses both abilities at the same time both of them degrade in strength. So the second it would take for her to try and use her TK would be the second her TP slips and allows Emma to move in even more easily to kill or take over her.
@Son Of Storm said:This is the second time you've said this. And this is the second time I'm asking. When did CURRENT Psylocke hold off Shadow King?@EpitomeofCool said:and in the psylocke is bloodlusted w/ no morals, not that different.....what your not getting is that she is in fact...she can hold her own against shadowking, she can do it to emma and tk her at the same time.....emma is not tearing her mind apart she wont get the chance here...she dosnt need to use alot of tk, just a small push to the brian, she has enough strenght to do this...there is no indication to how fat apart they are, if they are close this will happen fast..@Son Of Storm said:Shaw's mind was full of rage. That's why she couldn't get through to him at first. Add that to him being supercharged by that fall and you the Shaw that gives Emma trouble. This wouldn't be the case with Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:she couldnt shut him down the first 2 times and was forced into diamond, the third time she got him..the thing is, shaws not a telepath..psylocke can do this w/out getting into an all out psy war..she puts up her psychic defenses while attacking her with tk and beats her.. ..she does since they are at the highest potential.....she is physically above emma, and can mix her attacks..@Son Of Storm said:And you do realize the second that Shaw gave Emma some space she completely tricked him and wiped his memory. The whole Shaw thing was actually stupid to begin with. Do you honestly believe Emma would transport what she considers to be one of the worlds most dangerous men without informing her team of what he can do? Psylocke would have to give her full concentration to have any chance to hold off Emma's attack. If she does this she won't have any power left to use her TK. Current Psylocke doesn't have the power to compete with Emma enough where she could hold her off and fight back.@EpitomeofCool said:your not getting that she can hold her off, emma cant take her out in a sec.......she can utilize both abilites.....her mind wouldnt compare to shaws beucse it would be much greater...if these people with no psyic abilites can do it, that only make it easier for psylocke...she can tk bombard her forceing emma to take evasive action, breaking her concentration or forcing her into diamond form which would allow psylocke to get in close to her with a psyic sword or knife... psylocke is not weak in a mental battle, her tk gives her the upper hand...she may not be a superior telepath, but she is more than capable of defending her self long enough to take her out via tk......@Son Of Storm said:But that's what your not getting. She wont have a chance to use her TK becuase Emma would overpower her.@EpitomeofCool said:shes not to powerful becuse psylocke can hold her off an tk win....shaw still had no psyic defences....op they are at there most powerful..@Son Of Storm said:She can only do that if she's actually conscious or in control of her actions. Emma is too powerful for Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
When has current Psylocke held off Shadow King?
Shaw was supercharged as well as being fueled by rage.
Shaw's mind was like a shark according to Emma. Psylocke's mind would hardly compare to Shaw's.
This is what you're not getting. Psylocke isn't strong enough to withstand an assault from Emma. She would have to put ALL her strength into her defenses. Which probably still wouldn't be enough. Psylocke doesn't have the raw power needed to keep out Emma and use TK.
Current Psylocke's highest potential is lower that Emma's norm. A bloodlusted Emma would tear her mind apart.Just because we're using highest potential doesn't mean we ignore character weakness.
Which would be an automatic death sentence for her because as stated by her if she uses both abilities at the same time both of them degrade in strength. So the second it would take for her to try and use her TK would be the second her TP slips and allows Emma to move in even more easily to kill or take over her.
This is what your whole plan is riding on. You're using a Psylocke that doesn't exist anymore. Why do you think Psylocke runs around with actual katana instead of TP or TK ones? It's because she can't spare the power anymore. You know as well as I do that other than the butterfly that was her trademark. If she doesn't even want to risk using that little amount of power what makes you think she can block out Emma WHILE using TK? She can't.
Show me one feat of CURRENT Psylocke that shows she's in Emma's level? You can't because she's not. They've reduced Psylocke to this 2nd rate telepath.
can i just cut in and say that in my little scenario.. it is common for telepaths to link minds during battle; in saying that... Jean has always been over charles in sheer raw power. he only surpassed her in skill and experience... emma is said commonly to rival charles.. in this particular thread all of them are at their upmost skill, power,etc etc.. with this unlocked, jean is already a slightly more powerful than charles; emma is on par with him most of the time; she rivals him so with both Jean and Emma linked and working together trying to dispatched the other group; charles would be overwhelmed because psylocke is his weak link.. and jean and emma together far surpasses anything charles can hope to do.. pyslocke is simply not enough to save him; if that certain scenario played out... cykez telepaths would win in a good battle
the only thing that saved charles ass was his experience... he doesn't have that here because he is brainwashed and doesn't knnow much of anything accept to kill.. jean was always stronger than him power wise... and Emma's skill tactics is on par with him... psylocke would be his demise in this battle
Team 2 due to Vulcan IMO. His ability to shut down powers right form the start of the battle gives the team the edge.
@EpitomeofCool said:@Son Of Storm said:This is the second time you've said this. And this is the second time I'm asking. When did CURRENT Psylocke hold off Shadow King?@EpitomeofCool said:and in the psylocke is bloodlusted w/ no morals, not that different.....what your not getting is that she is in fact...she can hold her own against shadowking, she can do it to emma and tk her at the same time.....emma is not tearing her mind apart she wont get the chance here...she dosnt need to use alot of tk, just a small push to the brian, she has enough strenght to do this...there is no indication to how fat apart they are, if they are close this will happen fast..@Son Of Storm said:Shaw's mind was full of rage. That's why she couldn't get through to him at first. Add that to him being supercharged by that fall and you the Shaw that gives Emma trouble. This wouldn't be the case with Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:she couldnt shut him down the first 2 times and was forced into diamond, the third time she got him..the thing is, shaws not a telepath..psylocke can do this w/out getting into an all out psy war..she puts up her psychic defenses while attacking her with tk and beats her.. ..she does since they are at the highest potential.....she is physically above emma, and can mix her attacks..@Son Of Storm said:And you do realize the second that Shaw gave Emma some space she completely tricked him and wiped his memory. The whole Shaw thing was actually stupid to begin with. Do you honestly believe Emma would transport what she considers to be one of the worlds most dangerous men without informing her team of what he can do? Psylocke would have to give her full concentration to have any chance to hold off Emma's attack. If she does this she won't have any power left to use her TK. Current Psylocke doesn't have the power to compete with Emma enough where she could hold her off and fight back.@EpitomeofCool said:your not getting that she can hold her off, emma cant take her out in a sec.......she can utilize both abilites.....her mind wouldnt compare to shaws beucse it would be much greater...if these people with no psyic abilites can do it, that only make it easier for psylocke...she can tk bombard her forceing emma to take evasive action, breaking her concentration or forcing her into diamond form which would allow psylocke to get in close to her with a psyic sword or knife... psylocke is not weak in a mental battle, her tk gives her the upper hand...she may not be a superior telepath, but she is more than capable of defending her self long enough to take her out via tk......@Son Of Storm said:But that's what your not getting. She wont have a chance to use her TK becuase Emma would overpower her.@EpitomeofCool said:shes not to powerful becuse psylocke can hold her off an tk win....shaw still had no psyic defences....op they are at there most powerful..@Son Of Storm said:She can only do that if she's actually conscious or in control of her actions. Emma is too powerful for Psylocke.@EpitomeofCool said:wont have time? yes she will...she dosnt need to use much tk...one push to the brain & emmas down easy..she can hold off the shadow king she can do it to emma...shaw could w/ out any psyic powers...@Son Of Storm said:Psylocke doesn't have the power to keep Emma out. She has also stated that if she splits her abilities they both gets weakened. But if she's facing off against a bloodlusted Emma she won't have time to use her tk because Emma would have her a drooling idiot. Past Psylocke was good. Current Psylocke is a complete joke.@EpitomeofCool said:psylocke can hold up a defence against emmas tp while gettting her with her tk she can use both at once...emma cant use her tp and diamond at the same time...@blacharrt:How?you could have it emma vs psylocke..pylocke wins and jean vs charles - jean.telepathic battle
jean & emma vs. Charles & Psylocke
When has current Psylocke held off Shadow King?
Shaw was supercharged as well as being fueled by rage.
Shaw's mind was like a shark according to Emma. Psylocke's mind would hardly compare to Shaw's.
This is what you're not getting. Psylocke isn't strong enough to withstand an assault from Emma. She would have to put ALL her strength into her defenses. Which probably still wouldn't be enough. Psylocke doesn't have the raw power needed to keep out Emma and use TK.
Current Psylocke's highest potential is lower that Emma's norm. A bloodlusted Emma would tear her mind apart.Just because we're using highest potential doesn't mean we ignore character weakness.
Which would be an automatic death sentence for her because as stated by her if she uses both abilities at the same time both of them degrade in strength. So the second it would take for her to try and use her TK would be the second her TP slips and allows Emma to move in even more easily to kill or take over her.
This is what your whole plan is riding on. You're using a Psylocke that doesn't exist anymore. Why do you think Psylocke runs around with actual katana instead of TP or TK ones? It's because she can't spare the power anymore. You know as well as I do that other than the butterfly that was her trademark. If she doesn't even want to risk using that little amount of power what makes you think she can block out Emma WHILE using TK? She can't.
Show me one feat of CURRENT Psylocke that shows she's in Emma's level? You can't because she's not. They've reduced Psylocke to this 2nd rate telepath.
your whole thing is that emma will overpower her...but w/ what Ive said that wont work w/ what we have from the op...they're true mutant potential are realeased.. meaning, they are fighting to their upmost potential, skill, and power. both teams are bloodlusted with no morals.
IIRC pylocke was immune to telepathy..meaning emma wont be an issue
gotta say team two
@THUNDERBOLT30: soo emma and jean doesn't have the ability to do this either?? (especially since everyone is at their upmost skill and power)
I haven't seen them use this tactic to my knowledge. Shutting down minds I've seen them do, but not blocking access or shut down powers (i.e. - like Magneto in Fatal Attractions). And not to say they couldn't, just haven't seen it to say that it would be an attack they'd use (in character) at least.
which is why in the op i said that they are brainwashed, bloodlusted with no morals at their upmost level of skill and power, just itching to kill each other.. this isn't in character at all... the whole thread is hypothetical... the skill that telepaths use to do this is called diluting power; psi inhibitors are instantly placed in the advarsaries mind to block access to powers. it's an instant it's not something that's really seen for the fact that it's only used to get nasty and play dirty.. truly no morals..the perfect tactic for this battle :)
jean showed this ability once...
your whole thing is that emma will overpower her...but w/ what Ive said that wont work w/ what we have from the op... IIRC pylocke was immune to telepathy..meaning emma wont be an issueWhen was the last time you've read anything with Psylocke? She hasn't been immune to telepathy for YEARS. Meaning that Psylocke would be dominated. You keep using feats that Psylocke can't do anymore which makes it moot and ignoring what's been established for some time now.
sure@Matezoide: care to play out a scenario for me??... amuse me :)
Emma and Jean keep Chavier and Psylock busy for a second and Quicksilver speedblitzes then
Iceman fights (and eventualy kills) Vulcan
Quicksilver then aids his father against the entire team 2 (with the exception of team 1),taking down the ones with lower durability
Jean attacks Rogue's mind
the rest of team 1 then gangs on Storm
Jean engages Professor X in mental combat which taxes both of them to the limit. But at the last second Jean uses TK to snap his neck. Magneto and Storm have at it but like always Magneto comes out on top by using her own power against her. Darwin keeps Vulcan busy with his new powers. Emma uses her telepathy to control Rogue and Blink to do some serious damage to Wolverine and Beast. Then finally melts their minds. And Quicksilver speed punches Polaris. Colossus goes after Bishop rendering his energy absorbing abilities useless. Then Psylocke is taken out by Havok or Emma. And Kitty is taken out by Kurt via BFR.
Oh yea.TEAM CYKEZ wins.
Professor X makes everyone one on the opposing team go brain dead. Team 2 wins. Game over.Not likely.
@EpitomeofCool said:how many times do I need to repet? read the op..the points are vaild because of the senerio..there is not need to get so hostile..shame..your whole thing is that emma will overpower her...but w/ what Ive said that wont work w/ what we have from the op... IIRC pylocke was immune to telepathy..meaning emma wont be an issueWhen was the last time you've read anything with Psylocke? She hasn't been immune to telepathy for YEARS. Meaning that Psylocke would be dominated. You keep using feats that Psylocke can't do anymore which makes it moot and ignoring what's been established for some time now.
@Son Of Storm said:You don't need to repeat anything.@EpitomeofCool said:how many times do I need to repet? read the op..the points are vaild because of the senerio..there is not need to get so hostile..shame..your whole thing is that emma will overpower her...but w/ what Ive said that wont work w/ what we have from the op... IIRC pylocke was immune to telepathy..meaning emma wont be an issueWhen was the last time you've read anything with Psylocke? She hasn't been immune to telepathy for YEARS. Meaning that Psylocke would be dominated. You keep using feats that Psylocke can't do anymore which makes it moot and ignoring what's been established for some time now.
I did read the OP. And its states THEIR utmost potential. Her immunity to telepathy was due to her brother. Not her own power.
Also I hardly think the OP means that we can pull abilities that characters had in the past.
LOL that you think that was hostile.
@EpitomeofCool said:ya thats hilarious sos.....>_> you interpreted the op differently...@Son Of Storm said:You don't need to repeat anything.@EpitomeofCool said:how many times do I need to repet? read the op..the points are vaild because of the senerio..there is not need to get so hostile..shame..your whole thing is that emma will overpower her...but w/ what Ive said that wont work w/ what we have from the op... IIRC pylocke was immune to telepathy..meaning emma wont be an issueWhen was the last time you've read anything with Psylocke? She hasn't been immune to telepathy for YEARS. Meaning that Psylocke would be dominated. You keep using feats that Psylocke can't do anymore which makes it moot and ignoring what's been established for some time now.
I did read the OP. And its states THEIR utmost potential. Her immunity to telepathy was due to her brother. Not her own power.
Also I hardly think the OP means that we can pull abilities that characters had in the past.
LOL that you think that was hostile.
@Son Of Storm said:Well then please tell me why my interpretation of it is wrong.@EpitomeofCool said:ya thats hilarious sos.....>_> you interpreted the op differently...@Son Of Storm said:You don't need to repeat anything.@EpitomeofCool said:how many times do I need to repet? read the op..the points are vaild because of the senerio..there is not need to get so hostile..shame..your whole thing is that emma will overpower her...but w/ what Ive said that wont work w/ what we have from the op... IIRC pylocke was immune to telepathy..meaning emma wont be an issueWhen was the last time you've read anything with Psylocke? She hasn't been immune to telepathy for YEARS. Meaning that Psylocke would be dominated. You keep using feats that Psylocke can't do anymore which makes it moot and ignoring what's been established for some time now.
I did read the OP. And its states THEIR utmost potential. Her immunity to telepathy was due to her brother. Not her own power.
Also I hardly think the OP means that we can pull abilities that characters had in the past.
LOL that you think that was hostile.
@EpitomeofCool said:not wrong, just differently....under your assumption of the meaning of the op youre correst, under mine, I am.. its up to the op to tell us the rest..until then there is not much else to discuss between the two....@Son Of Storm said:Well then please tell me why my interpretation of it is wrong.@EpitomeofCool said:ya thats hilarious sos.....>_> you interpreted the op differently...@Son Of Storm said:You don't need to repeat anything.@EpitomeofCool said:how many times do I need to repet? read the op..the points are vaild because of the senerio..there is not need to get so hostile..shame..your whole thing is that emma will overpower her...but w/ what Ive said that wont work w/ what we have from the op... IIRC pylocke was immune to telepathy..meaning emma wont be an issueWhen was the last time you've read anything with Psylocke? She hasn't been immune to telepathy for YEARS. Meaning that Psylocke would be dominated. You keep using feats that Psylocke can't do anymore which makes it moot and ignoring what's been established for some time now.
I did read the OP. And its states THEIR utmost potential. Her immunity to telepathy was due to her brother. Not her own power.
Also I hardly think the OP means that we can pull abilities that characters had in the past.
LOL that you think that was hostile.
..which team did you say?
@Son Of Storm said:Alright then. I guess we'll wait and see.@EpitomeofCool said:not wrong, just differently....under your assumption of the meaning of the op youre correst, under mine, I am.. its up to the op to tell us the rest..until then there is not much else to discuss between the two.... ..which team did you say?@Son Of Storm said:Well then please tell me why my interpretation of it is wrong.@EpitomeofCool said:ya thats hilarious sos.....>_> you interpreted the op differently...@Son Of Storm said:You don't need to repeat anything.@EpitomeofCool said:how many times do I need to repet? read the op..the points are vaild because of the senerio..there is not need to get so hostile..shame..your whole thing is that emma will overpower her...but w/ what Ive said that wont work w/ what we have from the op... IIRC pylocke was immune to telepathy..meaning emma wont be an issueWhen was the last time you've read anything with Psylocke? She hasn't been immune to telepathy for YEARS. Meaning that Psylocke would be dominated. You keep using feats that Psylocke can't do anymore which makes it moot and ignoring what's been established for some time now.
I did read the OP. And its states THEIR utmost potential. Her immunity to telepathy was due to her brother. Not her own power.
Also I hardly think the OP means that we can pull abilities that characters had in the past.
LOL that you think that was hostile.
Team Cyclops aka Team 1.
@Jake454: jean was always more poweful than charles; the only thing he had on her was experience; at her upmost skill and power.. she takes him by herself (charles is brainwashed and doesn't know anything accept that he has to kill team 2) he has no experience in this battleSo Jean can have her skill and power but Charles isn"t allowed in to use his experience in this fight?
i say team 2
none of them have experience in this battle... they are brainwashed and programmed to kill the opposing team.. period.. previous experience is irrelevant in this particular battle.. charles can only depend on his actual potential power unleashed by the brain alteration. nothing else... they are basically relying on instinct... and the level of power that they can potentially possess.. UPMOST is the word i think i used :)
i understand... in this particular thread; ; they are all brainwashed... they know nothing of their past and are doing what the were programmed to do... defeat the opposing team. you can't rely on what you knew and learned from passed knowledge and/or experience if you are brainwashed... this is where basic human instinct kicks in...in the mean time; their brain is altered to where their maximum potential is released... upmost level of power is what they are fighting with... jean has a much high peak than charles... there is no experienced involved p.s ok i get you with the defenses thing.. "if they all have enough power to put the other down, then your job is to tell which side would accomplish this first
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