#1 Edited by fatalsniper728 (498 posts) - - Show Bio

Arbiter is on a lone mission on an unknown planet, he almost reaches his next objective when Predator appears. The two go at it, who will win ?

Arbiter has a covenant carbine, energy sword, and 4 plasma grenades.

Predator has his whole weaponry.

#2 Posted by terry2012 (5278 posts) - - Show Bio

Arbiter for the win.

#3 Posted by fatalsniper728 (498 posts) - - Show Bio

this is a good fight in my opinion, its hard to choose, but i think arbiter would win due to the deadliness of the energy sword and how skillfull he is

#4 Posted by nick_hero22 (6896 posts) - - Show Bio

A more detailed OP would be helpful (What type of Predator are we using? What exactly does its arsenal consist of?)

#5 Posted by Madiris (7 posts) - - Show Bio

With a high ranking target like the Arbiter, an extremely experianced Predator will take the challenge of hunting the Arbiter. So the battle will tilt in the Predator's favor. Unless the Arbiter can survive long enough to discover the Predator's weakness (which might not be possible unless the Arbiter can receive reinforcements, he won't find the Predator's weakness).

To sum it all up Predator has the advantage.

#6 Posted by Bossmonster (2246 posts) - - Show Bio

This is completely in Predators favor just because of tech. The energy sword is awesome, but Predator doesn't normally more to melee combat off top. Second, I think everyone that has commets so far is thinking Arbiter is going to have stealth. He won't. Predator has a wide range of imaging and active camo doesn't mask heat emissions which is what Predator normally views even without his helmet. The Arbiter would be hunting with a stealth, super strong version of his self with cannons that lock on and track. I honestly think this is too far in Predators favor.

#7 Posted by MonsterStomp (18244 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going for the Predator. Arbiter is good but his camo is close to useless. The Chief spotted him moments after waking in Halo 3.

#8 Posted by dondave (37991 posts) - - Show Bio

Predator ftw

#9 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

predator collects a new head trophy.

#10 Posted by onilordasmodeus (2545 posts) - - Show Bio

Pred has advantage since he has his entire arsenal. That being said, this is still a pretty even fight, and I'd say it could go either way.

#11 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Arbiter, almost easily. He is on Chief's level.

#12 Posted by fatalsniper728 (498 posts) - - Show Bio

@onilordasmodeus: but then again arbiter has plasma grenades and his carbine

#13 Posted by RetardRobot (182 posts) - - Show Bio

Which

Predator?

#14 Posted by MonsterStomp (18244 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Arbiter, almost easily. He is on Chief's level.

Doubt it. Arbiter has lower showings than the Chief.

#15 Posted by onilordasmodeus (2545 posts) - - Show Bio

@fatalsniper728:

Thing is though, that Pred has counters to everything that Arby is packing, except maybe the sword. But Pred doesn't have to come in if he doesn't want to. In CQC though, I'd have to go with Arby; Elites aren't anything to play with.

Though I'm sure someone can post some serious feats for an Elder Pred, the Sangheili aren't called elites for nothing...

Let alone the arbiter.

#16 Posted by NeonGameWave (7794 posts) - - Show Bio

This would be an awesome fight to see, I say tie.

#17 Posted by fatalsniper728 (498 posts) - - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: so none would win ?

#18 Posted by NeonGameWave (7794 posts) - - Show Bio

@fatalsniper728: I think it could go either way but I see it ending as a tie.

#19 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

Arbiter easily.

#20 Edited by Redmonkeyssj4 (856 posts) - - Show Bio

If this is Ripa Moramee, It's a stump for him, even though it IS in the Predators favor. If Thel Vidam(ee) it could go either way, I'm leaning more towards arbiter. Arbiters do have energy shields, both creatures are stronger than humans but I'd say Sangheili are stronger, Sanghelios is said to have a stronger gravitational pull than earth and from Predators the movie, it seems as though the Yautja have the same gravity of earth. Honestly if the covenant wanted to invade Yautja Prime, it'd be a piece of cake for them. @ onilordasmodeus and after seeing that vid, I'd say an Arbiter wins this rather easily, unless someone else can come up with something to top that.

#21 Posted by onilordasmodeus (2545 posts) - - Show Bio

@Redmonkeyssj4:

Gotta agree.

#22 Posted by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

Arbiter with ease, not sure how Predator would even kill him, one shot of the plasma gun won't even pierce his armor and neither will his knives, Arbiter is also much bigger and stronger, only chance Predator has is with the nuke.

#23 Posted by fatalsniper728 (498 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh: so basically arbiter stomps lol

#24 Posted by nick_hero22 (6896 posts) - - Show Bio

@ComocYahweh said:

Arbiter with ease, not sure how Predator would even kill him, one shot of the plasma gun won't even pierce his armor and neither will his knives, Arbiter is also much bigger and stronger, only chance Predator has is with the nuke.

This is completely false, the Predators strength feats and speed feats are much superior to the Sanghelios; the Plasma Caster has been shown to one-shot space transporters and helicopters quite easily, so I don't see why there would be a major problem with the Plasma Caster dissipating the Arbiter energy shielding and then using superior physicality and a degree of skill to neutralize the Arbiter in close quarter combat.

#25 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22: Arbiter has reflexes 4x faster than a normal human.

Arbiter can just use his plasma rifle to melt Predators face off since predator has no shields and he is faster than him.

Show me some of the predators strength and speed feats than say he is above Arbiter.I recall a yakuza with a samurai sword killing a predator in the last movie something that could never happend to the Arbiter.

#26 Edited by ComocYahweh (661 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22 said:

@ComocYahweh said:

Arbiter with ease, not sure how Predator would even kill him, one shot of the plasma gun won't even pierce his armor and neither will his knives, Arbiter is also much bigger and stronger, only chance Predator has is with the nuke.

This is completely false, the Predators strength feats and speed feats are much superior to the Sanghelios; the Plasma Caster has been shown to one-shot space transporters and helicopters quite easily, so I don't see why there would be a major problem with the Plasma Caster dissipating the Arbiter energy shielding and then using superior physicality and a degree of skill to neutralize the Arbiter in close quarter combat.

Sure Predators plasma gun can destroy earthly material, however it wont even break through Arbiters shield, even if arbiter didn't have a shield on, it wouldn't pierce his armor. Not even an elder predator is as skilled as Arbiter, and they are slightly smaller and probably weaker.

#27 Posted by MisterGuyMan (2044 posts) - - Show Bio

There are a lot of Predators with a few being much stronger and impressive than the rest.

#28 Posted by AmazingScrewOnHead (712 posts) - - Show Bio

It depends on the rank of the predator, An Elder or Ancient would slaughterstomp and the likes of a unblooded wouldnt do so well, Predators have shown to be just as or far stronger than the elites

#29 Posted by onilordasmodeus (2545 posts) - - Show Bio

@AmazingScrewOnHead:

Is that true? Elites are as strong as armored Spartans, and armored Spartans can flip tanks.

#30 Posted by AmazingScrewOnHead (712 posts) - - Show Bio

@onilordasmodeus: And Predators can punch trucks into the air,throw buffalo around like they were ragdolls,rip through the doors on a spaceship,Kill Alien queens with there bare hands and rip a tank open...

#31 Edited by nick_hero22 (6896 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheTmac said:

@nick_hero22: Arbiter has reflexes 4x faster than a normal human.

Arbiter can just use his plasma rifle to melt Predators face off since predator has no shields and he is faster than him.

Show me some of the predators strength and speed feats than say he is above Arbiter.I recall a yakuza with a samurai sword killing a predator in the last movie something that could never happend to the Arbiter.

1) The Predator has been stated to have freakishly fast reflexes by a sniper who was doubtful if he could hit a unsuspecting Predator with an ArmaLite AR-50.

2) The Predator is fast enough to dodge projectiles from the Plasma Rifle along with having invisible which makes him a much more difficult target to see and hit; the Predator has very durable plate armor which has resisted explosions at extremely close range and is virtually bulletproof.

3) The Predators in the movie "Predators" are essentially a much different variation of the Original due to all of the alterations they perform on themselves to become better hunters, and based off their feats in the movie and the lore in the AVP Universe, these Predator are unblooded and were pretty poor hunters compared to their predecessors in the movies that came before them.

Physical Feats

PREDATOR: Cold War by Nathan Archer ISB 0-553-57493-0

Pages 208 - 209

For a moment the spear supported him; then the incredibly sharp spearhead cut through his spine and he slid down the shaft.

Blood ran down the shaft ahead of the dying Russian and he landed facedown in a pool of his own blood, cooling quickly on the ice.

The spear was snatched from his back by a shadow, indistinct figure and the second man down cut loose with his AK-100, spraying bullets at the barely glimpsed spear wielding killer.

The thing moved so fast it almost seemed to be dodging the bullets as it turned and ran back down the canyon. The Russian charged after it, bellowing.

Page 210

Someone, Pushkov or someone obeying Pushkov, fired; Gunin felt burning lines of pain as bullets tore through his right sleeve and through his arm but the pain was not bad, not enough to make him scream-- the spikes had already hurt him enough to deaden his sensitivity.

The creature holding the spear seemed to side-step the bullets easily.

Then it jabbed the spear forward, and Gunin no longer worried about spikes or bullets, or anything else as the thing cut his heart out with a single quick gesture.

After that, the alien disappeared, blurring into invisibility

Page 213

"I care about something," she told him, "I care about my men!"

"Yeah, I care about something," Schaefer said. "I care about the fact that when that thing's done with your friends, it'll probably find us. Do you have a knife?"

She blinked up at him. "A knife?"

"Those things are fast enough to dodge bullets, if they see them coming," Schaefer explained. "And even if you hit them, they're damn near bulletproof. Knives, well... they can dodge knives too, if they have a chance but I don't intend to give this one a chance."

Alien vs Predator War by S.D. Perry ISBN 0-553-57732-8

Page 172 to 173

The Queen continued in her bursts of screams, all but hidden by a mass of her minions, bugs jumping into the battle as more came out of the dark, running at the Hunters, the Hunters dancing and cutting like samurai-- both alien groups slowly, steadily gaining ground on the three humans.

Lara didn't think about it, couldn't, aiming and firing and aiming again, the bugs blasted into acid splash as the Hunters dodged and fought, and somehow managed not to die-- CLICK CLICK CLICK-- AND Lara heard Noguchi's weapon go dry, even over the screams and explosions, as chilling as terrible as the Queen's fury.

"The predator came out of the spaceship again, in full armour. Gustat had a clear shot, and the ArmaLite AR-50 wasn't a joke. He would probably make a dent in the Predator's armour, maybe even several dents. Possibly kill him, although the creatures reflexes were so freakishly fast that Gustat doubted it, not without a chance at a headshot sans helmet." - South China Sea

Catches a subway train on foot and kicks in the windows and kills everyone on-board after the train had been traveling for an extended period of time

Fast enough to evade gunfire and grab a scientist and manages to jump a gate that is several feet tall

Capable of keeping up with a speeding car on foot and causes the driver to have a head on collision with a brick wall

Dodges a Bazooka at close range

Dodges missiles from a Helicopter at close range and shoots it down with a blast from it's Plasm Caster

Predators are capable of performing acrobatic maneuvers off steep cliffs to get to the colony Ryushi

Strong enough to toss around a adult bison to which was described as "a cat with toying with a mouse"

Strong enough to tear open and bend a reinforced metal door in the medical bay of the colony Ryushi effortlessly

Strong enough to throw a decapitated head with enough force to shatter the windshield of a militarized jeep and knock it over in the process.

Strong enough to rip out a human's skull and spine, punch through a human and rip out their heart, rip off a human's head, and kill a man with casual backhand

Strong enough to walk right through a solid brick wall and destroy a scout helicopter with a couple of punches

Strong enough to punch a military truck through the air carrying five people and knock it off-road

They had careened through yet another curve in the road when Nikolai saw Marikova's eyes widen and she shouted at him, at them "There's something out there! Stop now!" Rath glanced back at her with an expression that Nikolai interpreted as pity or disgust--and gunned the engine. Something shimmering and heavy hit Nikolai's side of the truck with a force that cracked metal, and in that split-second before the truck overturned and they all went spilling out onto the ground, onto the road, Nikolai felt something right beside his head, something that made a growling-clicking sound that made him scream, and behind it the sensation of great weight and the smell like rotting meat so that he steeled himself for a blow, but no blow came, just the delicate scrape of a clawed hand across his face, receding as the changed momentum of the truck and his own inertia carried him away from the creature."

Skill Feats

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/challenge-a-viner-nickz-vs-nickd-s-just-got-real/709241/?page=2

#32 Posted by TheTmac (472 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22: Nice scans but the Arbiter could do all of those things.The Arbiter has a couple of key advantages over the Predator

1.Better armor/shields wich are able to tank hits from powerful alien weapons from the future.

2.Better reflexes.Normal elites have been shown to give spartans trouble in h2h and most of the spartan IIs are bullet timers.(Predator loses to yakuza)

3.Better skill with his weapons.The Arbiter gets to use a energy sword a weapon that can cut through a tank like butter and he has been training with it his whole life.And again The Predator lost to a tired beat up yakuza member armed with only a katana.

And The Arbiter also has invisibility.

Since 99% of the feats wich show how strong and durable elites are are in books and I dont feel like going through them and picking out quotes this video should give you an idea of what the Predator is up against:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=URWdgsBqfsQ

#33 Posted by RobocopSlayerT800 (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

Predator would win easily. Predators are good at hunting and tracking down their prey. Predator can go invisible and Arbiter would never know where the pred is. The Predator could unexpectivly attack with shoulder canon weaponary or wrist blades.

Predators should have this 8/10

#34 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Smiley kills the Arbiter.

@TheTmac said:

@nick_hero22: Nice scans but the Arbiter could do all of those things.The Arbiter has a couple of key advantages over the Predator

1.Better armor/shields wich are able to tank hits from powerful alien weapons from the future.

2.Better reflexes.Normal elites have been shown to give spartans trouble in h2h and most of the spartan IIs are bullet timers.(Predator loses to yakuza)

3.Better skill with his weapons.The Arbiter gets to use a energy sword a weapon that can cut through a tank like butter and he has been training with it his whole life.And again The Predator lost to a tired beat up yakuza member armed with only a katana.

And The Arbiter also has invisibility.

Since 99% of the feats wich show how strong and durable elites are are in books and I dont feel like going through them and picking out quotes this video should give you an idea of what the Predator is up against:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=URWdgsBqfsQ

I debate against Halo alot (being a 40K fan) and I seen the book passages that have a Plasma Gun one shoting the superior Master Chief Shields. Plasma Catser of the Pred will do the same. Arbiter Shields are not superior to the Plasma Caster nor had they ever shown superiority in Games or Books.

Arbiter is max 3-5 ton range. Predator is 1-3 range.

Pred also has way better gear to use here to win and has UNEARTHLY Materials itself that cut thru Titanium like butter.

#35 Posted by fatalsniper728 (498 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: i didnt even know predator had all that, he's only using the weapons i meant for him to have haha

#36 Posted by fatalsniper728 (498 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheTmac: i agree with you, and arbiter is supposed to be like 8 feet tall, the energy sword will slice through predator

#37 Posted by theDCkid (889 posts) - - Show Bio

Arbiter, predators are good but not at elite standards.

#38 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7035 posts) - - Show Bio

So many users who posted in this thread clearly have no knowledge of a yautja at all.

#39 Posted by nick_hero22 (6896 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick_hero22 said:

A more detailed OP would be helpful (What type of Predator are we using? What exactly does its arsenal consist of?)

#40 Posted by Inphase (329 posts) - - Show Bio

Just a normal Pred? Its Arbiter ftw.

#41 Posted by ToO_RaW (1116 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Arbiter, almost easily. He is on Chief's level.
#42 Posted by fatalsniper728 (498 posts) - - Show Bio

@too_raw: wouldn't arbiter be taller then predator ?

#43 Posted by fatalsniper728 (498 posts) - - Show Bio

i think up close arbiter would win, and long range predator

#45 Posted by Jezzza (1 posts) - - Show Bio

@bossmonster: "Given their predatory nature, a Sangheili's sense of smell is likely very developed.". "Their legs are digitigrade, with short upper and lower legs, and elongated tarsals, using the distal and intermediate phalanges to support their weight when walking. This arrangement possibly allows them to run very quickly and jump large distances". Also on, another note, while not proven Sangheilis (Elites) Have been suggested to be reptilian or scaly along with slitted eyes, if they are cold blooded then a predators heat seeking camo would be useless. Also, elites are marksmans with weapons such as the beamrifle they can shoot up to 1.5 kilometers and due to this range their speed is probably not far behind. Also someones argument that covenant gins are so slow and that a predator could dodge easily, this is not true, weapons for the covenant were slowed down for gameplay purposes regarding campaign. I think they are evenly matched with advantages over eachother, although personally i think arbiter would win due to his similarities to a spartan, wise elite (some are rageful) and to predator.

#46 Edited by BadVoodoo (381 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm

#47 Posted by Funsiized (3716 posts) - - Show Bio

Im leanign towards Arbiter, OP didn't specify, so we cna assume that its a standard Pred, which is not an ancient, and if we compare the races, Then a standard Pred is like a standard elite, Except this is the best of the best elites. So i feel as if he is more skilled.

in the end Arbiter Takes this 8/10 times

and if ancient then probably stalemate.