Posted by Strider92 (16488 posts) - - Show Bio

Suggested by and this is thread is for 40k chars vs other 40k chars to save clogging up the forum with random threads. If any Mod feels this should be in Off-Topic or anywhere else for that matter feel free to move it.

Round 1:

Leman Russ

Vs

Konrad Curze:

  • Morals On
  • Standard Gear
  • No Prep

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Next round begins after a majority vote as been decided.

#1 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: feats for konrad?

#2 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

I do not know much about Konrad. But based on the way they each met the Emperor...i say Lemun Russ wins. Russ is a madman that would only bend the knee if The Emperor was able to beat him in 3 contests...eating, drinking and fighting. Konrad fell to his knees and tried to tear his eyes out at the sight of The Emperor.

Russ is also the only Primarch to literally punch The Emperor in the face during a congregation with the rest of his brothers. Of course, The Emperor lightly backhanded him and put him in a 30 day coma. Russ was also considered by Horus to be the greatest threat to his rebellion, and sent him on a witch hunt to Prospero.

I said Russ wins, but i honeslty dont know. Konrad was a hell of a hunter and Russ is a hell of a brawler (wherever he is). It would depend on the encounter.

#3 Posted by Strider92 (16488 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork said:

Of course, The Emperor lightly backhanded him and put him in a 30 day coma.

lol the Emperor cracks me up with his feats. He punched me........to I lightly tapped him and sent him into a coma for a couple of months......that'll teach him!

hows that? maybe the pm was bugged?

#4 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: Im in!

@Rumble Man said:

@Strider92: feats for konrad?

Holy Sh!zer you dont know Konrad 0_0

I will educate.

Konrad is considered the BEST H2H Fighter out of all the Primarchs. He easily out shone Corax in skill by so much the Corax fled rather than face him on Isvaan.

This is how awesome he is. Corax EASILY beats Logar and delivers the killing blow. Konrad blocks it, grab Corax arm, and then holds a Casual Conversation with Logar while Corax Struggles LOL.

Also Konrad fought the Lion. El Jhonson's sword play kicked Konrads' ass at first till Konrad (after getting his throat cut by the sword) rams the Lion to the gorund and nearly killed the Lion in a ground pound match.

Konrad also had a night terror (True Story, a vision) and beat Rogal Dorn down to a inch of his life. Rogal Dorn feared Konrad ever since.

Point is no Primarch was as good at Stealth and H2H fighting as Konrad.

@nerdork: Russ has brute strength and a Psychic shattering Scream power. Russ like Angron is very OP Stat wise for a Primarch and Russ is a Brawler at that. His H2H battle with Magnus was a good showing of Durability but terrible showing of skill as Magnu match Russ in H2H well enough before Russ broke his back.

Konrad base on feats vs other skill Primarchs should decimate him via H2H and Submission.

#5 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: Well, it is obvious that you know far more about Konrad than I do. I always felt like Russ was one of those 'against-the-odds' type of characters, but that is solely IMO. But, in an H2H fight, based on your scans, it looks like Konrad has the edge. But, this fight can still go either way, as no one has an edge in the environment or prep. However, I'll give it to Konrad 6/10.

#6 Posted by Chaos Prime (10842 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice job & wot a way to kick off this thread :)

Lets just hope these 2 are slugging it out on an unbreakable planet ;)

Imo Russ has wot it takes to bring the fight to Konrad but that may be his downful, if he can keep his emotions in check & play it smart he has the all round abilities to take the win here, but as already mentioned by CadenceV2 the major problem will be in trying to keep Konrad at bay, no easy task even for Russ.

Imo im giving the majority to Konrad 8/10

#7 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: Also I always hated that pic. this one by Slaan_69 is way better.

#8 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: I thought sanguinus is the fave

#9 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@Strider92: Also I always hated that pic. this one by Slaan_69 is way better.

Yeah, it depends on whom is drawing the character. Clint Langley is my favorite 2000AD, Warhammer Fantasy and 40K artist.

#10 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man said:

@CadenceV2: I thought sanguinus is the fave

Fave? Of the Emperor beside Horus?

#11 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: yep

#12 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man: Sanguinise is the Emperors favorite son beside Horus. Probaly equal intact. Magnus and Logar have good claim as favorites as both take the most after the Emperor in powers and Genetics.

#13 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: no love for mortarion :(

#14 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man: Mortarion ate it pretty hard on Istavan. That was a sad book.

#15 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: Damn you Kaldor Draigo

#16 Posted by Stompa (1278 posts) - - Show Bio

Hm i say 40k Batman takes this.

#17 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man: All my hate goes to Erebus. DAMN HIM!!!

I mean, most Chaplains have the bravado and ferver to troll all of Comic Vine into inexistence. Then there is Erebus, who makes them all look like humble monks. And, i hated the way he was always so arogant with the Primarchs...God, i wanted Mortarion to kill him.

#18 Edited by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: I like erebus

because no erebus = no typhus

@Stompa:

An ork killed his parents

#19 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man said:

@nerdork: I like erebus

because no erebus = no typhus

@Stompa:

An ork killed his parents

Love it. Love it alot.

#20 Posted by Stompa (1278 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn that thing looks awesome. :-)

#21 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man said:

@nerdork: I like erebus

because no erebus = no typhus

@Stompa:

An ork killed his parents

I like what how the plot thickened, basically because of Erebus, but he kind of ruined the greatness of the Imperium of Man with his trixiness. And, i am a big fan of Garro, Loken, Torgaddon..and they all hated him, so i take their side. lol

On a side note. Is that Damian Wayne?...I think Bruce is too old for recruitment. :P

#22 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: Its the new Insider suit.

#23 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: Ginnis ;)

#24 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: I meant that the gene seed doesn’t completely affect and alter people over a certain age…sorry, poor attempt at humor. wa wa wa

#25 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork said:

@CadenceV2: I meant that the gene seed doesn’t completely affect and alter people over a certain age…sorry, poor attempt at humor. wa wa wa

I know what you mean. However some Space Marines were transform in there 20s. They are low survival rate cases. Also Kor Pharion and .. Maltador (ithink that was the guys name, Horus gene therapy and half ass Marine him too in the third HH book.) were given Space Marine Organs and Gene Therapy to be near equals.

#26 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33447 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a hard battle, it's like cosmic Batman Vs Cosmic Wolverine

#27 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: I always figure Leman Russ more like Thor in Fight style and dress style lol.

#28 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: And Batman would definitely be one of those exceptions for gene therapy.

#29 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33447 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous: I always figure Leman Russ more like Thor in Fight style and dress style lol.

Sure but Thor would eat Batman for lunch, maybe Batman/Conan?

#30 Posted by Strider92 (16488 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork said:

@CadenceV2: And Batman would definitely be one of those exceptions for gene therapy.

To be honest Batman would be considered a Heretic for his morals and most likely be put to death lol.

#31 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@nerdork said:

@CadenceV2: And Batman would definitely be one of those exceptions for gene therapy.

To be honest Batman would be considered a Heretic for his morals and most likely be put to death lol.

Unfortunately, you are probably right. Horus would have to Illuminate him.

#32 Posted by Strider92 (16488 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerdork: Pretty much. People like Moon Knight or Punisher would be more acceptable candidates. People with any kind of moral compass get executed so fast its hilarious.

#33 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92: Lol, but no joke, they always kill the peaceful people with their own beliefs, no matter how great their alliance would be to the Imperium; however, i think an un-Nurgle-tainted Horus would have recruited Bruce Wayne. He made Loken one of his personal councilors (whatever the name of that group of 4 was), and Loken was nothing if not moral.

#34 Posted by Rumble Man (11119 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@nerdork said:

@CadenceV2: And Batman would definitely be one of those exceptions for gene therapy.

To be honest Batman would be considered a Heretic for his morals and most likely be put to death lol.

he could always join with the 'Greater Good'

#35 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rumble Man said:

@Strider92 said:

@nerdork said:

@CadenceV2: And Batman would definitely be one of those exceptions for gene therapy.

To be honest Batman would be considered a Heretic for his morals and most likely be put to death lol.

he could always join with the 'Greater Good'

Greater Good. LOL, the Tau always make laugh.

#36 Posted by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, I'd say that Konrad won the first round. Whose next? :P

#37 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

DO ANGRON! Angron needs a match!

#38 Posted by Strider92 (16488 posts) - - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

DO ANGRON! Angron needs a match!

Round 2:

Angron (Pre-Demonhood):

Vs

Horus (Pre-Chaos Possession):

  • Morals On
  • No Prep
  • Standard Gear
#39 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33447 posts) - - Show Bio

Do some non-Space Marines

#40 Posted by Strider92 (16488 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: thats next :)

#41 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33447 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@Jonny_Anonymous: thats next :)

Nice :)

#42 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Do some non-Space Marines

Yeah we can get to that next.

For this one I am going with Angron. Horus is said to be the best all round average in stats and skill. However his gear load out (Talon of Horus and Power weapon) is not standing up to Gore Child and Gore Father wielding Angron.

Horus has shown great strategy but no specialise combat style to use against Angron strength, which is arguably the highest strength, and Angron's Gladiator style training and combat style.

Horus best Feats I seen was fighting a Demon Prince Temba and he was hard press against that Nurgle Demon Prince.

And Horus survived a top half crashing cruiser.

However Angron's Durability was a bit more impressive as was his strength.

As well his laying waste to all with smooth chops of his twin weapons.

#43 Edited by nerdork (4038 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree that in an all-out, no holds barred H2H fight Angron would pull the ‘W’ here, as he has the strength and durability over Horus. But, Horus will not let it get to the point where it is a rage v rage match. His extremely intelligent, calm and collective mind will allow him to be an effective tactician against Angron. Where Angron will ‘bull’ his way into the fight, Horus will be the ‘matador’. He knows that he cant trade blows with Angron for very long without it taking a toll on his body, and thus slowly lose the fight.

IMO, Horus would be able to capitalize on whatever missteps, openings and opportunities that Angron would provide with his wild fighting style. Yes, Angron is an amazingly insane H2H, gladiator style, fighter, but he has shown to have less patience, less discipline and more anger than Leman Russ, making him prone to mistakes (especially considering the opponent). And against Horus, that could prove to be a big disadvantage.

Horus’ edge would be his patience here, as he has the ability to nimbly stay away from the worst of the attacks, suffer glancing blows, and parry the rest. Horus will be able to get inside Angron’s head and aggravate him into error, as he has previously shown to be sensitive, and will lashout towards criticism (imagine him being intentionally provoked and prodded). It would take a long time, and Horus will leave the fight badly injured, but not before putting Angron to submission or death.

Horus FTW!!! 7-8/10

#44 Posted by Chaos Prime (10842 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Do some non-Space Marines

Agreed :) Imo the Eversor Assassin needs a good match up against a non-space Marine :)

Back to the battle at hand.

Another close call imo with Angron taking the majority just 6/10

#45 Posted by Strider92 (16488 posts) - - Show Bio

@Chaos Prime: ok :p

Round 3:

Eversor Assassin:

Vs

Incubus (Dark Eldar):

Morals On

Standard Gear

Random Encounter

#46 Posted by Chaos Prime (10842 posts) - - Show Bio

Dam fine match-up imo ;) love that scan of the eversor, not seen that one before.

Had a giggle when i see this as a Random encounter, has an EA ever been in a random encounter? :)

Imo Melee encounter the Incubus has the slight advantage due to the better weapons at hand & Armour but this doesnt mean even in a close encounter he takes the win 10/10 because the EA will match him move for move but having the better Weapon to Parry the Incubus will take the majority 6/10.

Stealth/Ranged attack is where the EA comes into his own in this encounter imo.He could just sit back & fire offf from his rifle waiting for the opening he needs to deliver a deadly strike from his needle-Gun or claws/Dagger.

Overall due to the EA imo having the best all "round" weapons he takes the majority win here 7/10

#47 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the Eversor is fatser lol. Also the Nuke Meltdown in his body is a auto win regargdless.