Thanos vs Majestic

@buckshot: and it has, time and time again, as he repeatedly and horrendously stomps every FTL'er that he's ever gone against, figures proven with picosecond reaction times, get dropped and decimated by Thanos. Just being stronger than them isn't enough. That strength is almost meaningless if he can't hit them.

And yet we see time and time again, Thanos hits them. Physically hits them. Which indicates that, despite their insane reaction speed, Thanos is still more than capable of tagging and eliminating them. And the claim that you don't possess these reactions when moving at millions/billions of times faster than light, is just ridiculous. If Surfer, BRB and others didn't possess that level of reaction when flying across the cosmos, they'd be hitting every asteroid, star, planet, nebulae and singularity in every galaxy, because they wouldn't be able to avoid them.

It's also been common knowledge, that Superman level figures are Nothing to Thanos. Literally Nothing. This is a guy who clears the entire JLA roster and goes looking for seconds. The idea that a Sub-Par Superman can even compete with him is utterly ludicrous.

This is a better fight than most Majestic battles. But I still have to side with Majestic for all the usual reasons.

sub-par superman? are you joking? Majestic is LEAGUES AND BOUNDS above superman. Majestic has telepathy energy blasts nano reactions he's way stronger than superman he has a healing factor that would heal him he's way smarter than superman. this post proves how little you actually know about Majestic.

@buckshot: I guess my memory is fuzzy then... again.

Right, so going by that logic Spider-Man can beat the Juggernaut just because he is faster? Thanos has reacted to FTL energy beams from the Surfer, and smacks him around on a daily basis (Not to mention, Surfer possesses nanosecond+ reaction speed).

Nobody is saying that the character Thanos has beaten aren't fast, it's just that they didn't actually display their nano-second reactions when they faced him. When people actually tried to use their speed against him, they avoid him for the most part and Thanos manages to catch them and lay them out as shown when he fought Eros and Captain Marvel. You still haven't shown anything to show that has any real speed feats.

1. that is, at best, a ridiculous theory on your part.

2. is there anything to prove that a) all surfers blasts are FTL and b)that Thanos was moving FTL? anything at all besides conjecture?

3. is there anything to debunk the list of scans i lready posted in this thread showing surfer getting tagged by the likes of rhino and a skrull? anything at all to prove it?

Majestic is not only faster than Thanos he far outclasses Thor and surfer in strength. so its is logical that Majestic could go blow for blow with Thanos

If it's all so obviously true, you should be able to easily back up your claims instead of just stating them over and over. Also, you're ignoring the point of speed. The argument being made is not that Thanos is incapable of hitting these characters, because clearly he has, but that they're not using their speed to the utmost when they fight (for plot or character reasons). Examples were given of street level characters also hitting established FTL characters to show that just because someone can hit someone else, it doesn't necessitate that they are faster. Someone has to be using their speed when they're hit for the other fighter to be demonstrating greater speed. So go ahead and overwhelm your captive audience with all the times that Thanos has beaten down someone who not only has, but is, in the moment, displaying FTL operational speed. They're waiting.

@buckshot: These figures not using their speed is pure conjecture. The idea that, given their lengthy history with Thanos, that they would hold back in Any Area while fighting him, is an utterly laughable and unprovable theory. The Avengers know better. The Surfer knows better. Everyone knows better. Because any pulled punches will result in them getting slaughtered.

The only reason why Thing and Hulk survived Thanos smashing their heads together was because of Quasar softening the blow. In Celestial Quest, Eros was quite clearly using his speed against Thanos while fighting him, and it didn't save him. And Eros was trying to beat him, because he, and all Titan Eternals knew, what he is capable of and what he was trying to do.

And I do seem to recall when Thanos was fighting WM/w PG Thor that during the engagement, Thanos instantly appeared behind Thor and cracked him good. There was no obvious sign of teleportation, which would indicate he was fast enough to appear behind Thor before Thor could react.

Honestly, Thanos is too boss for this poser.

If you actually believe that Thanos nano-second reactions because the characters should have used their speed against him, I don't see the need in replying to you anymore. You have also still failed to show any scans or mention any feats of Thanos' supposed reaction speed.

Eros actually displayed superior speed to Thanos and avoided him for most of the fight, Thanos just managed to catch his leg and beat him.

@dondave: Thanos was holding a conversation and was toying with Eros. When he was done playing, he took him out. Would you just like to go back to Thanos beating Norrin to Death? Cause we can do that.

Or maybe you'd like him dropping Mjolnir effortlessly. You know, Thor's hammer. The thing he can throw to the edge of the galaxy in a few seconds. The thing Thanos stops like a traffic officer at a bus stop.

@reikai said:

@dondave: Thanos was holding a conversation and was toying with Eros. When he was done playing, he took him out. Would you just like to go back to Thanos beating Norrin to Death? Cause we can do that.

Or maybe you'd like him dropping Mjolnir effortlessly. You know, Thor's hammer. The thing he can throw to the edge of the galaxy in a few seconds. The thing Thanos stops like a traffic officer at a bus stop.

Uhh, you're doing it again. Silver Surfer didn't even attempt to use his speed in that fight. Also if you actually read I, Whom the Gods Would Destroy, you'd know that Thor didn't send his hammer to ends of the Galaxy in seconds. Just because he threw his hammer at Thanos doesn't mean it going at the Speed of Light or further, Thor rarely actually throws his hammer at FTL speeds.. Sentry has shown FTL Speed. Hercules has been able to dodge Sentry flying at him, that doesn't mean that Hercules now has FTL reactions, just that Sentry was flying FTL at him. The same is true in this instance.

@reikai: Thanos' speed is conjecture. If you think he has it, prove it. If you think his attackers are regularly using it and he's surpassing them, prove it. Also, I'm cracking up over here that the only example you used in that post is Thanos appearing behind Thor, a guy with street level operational speed. (Well I guess you mentioned Eros too, but dondave is saying Eros avoided him for most of the fight, and everyone can hit a speedster eventually. Deathstroke embarrasses Flash regularly. He must be faster than light, right? Yeah, I remember that time Slade read an entire library of books in a couple minutes.)

Majestic shouldn't be effed with. Dude can move planets.

Silver Surfer going 30 x FTL is an example of Travel Speed not Combat Speed, Einstein. Thanos hitting the Surfer isn't an issue since the Surfer was not moving that fast in their battle against each other. You can only assume he was...

Majestic has superior combat speed... that's what counts here... you keep bring up Travel Speed as if it's some type of point in your favor... it don't mean diddly squat here.

Like the Greatest Boxer of All Time said, "You can't Hit what you can't See" and all Big Purple will be seeing is fists to the head.

Absolutely Not, because unfortunately you failed to grab the Logic I was displaying. Spidey won't beat Juggs because he doesn't have the Strength to do so. Even though Spidey is quicker... his blows are in such a lower bracket of strength it wont affect Juggs. The difference is Majestic's Strength Class is of the Elite... Planet Moving Strength and that could affect Thanos especially complimented with Incredible Speed. When you say Thanos has reacted to FTL energy beams from the Surfer, you do mean getting hit by them right ? So what exactly would that show ? Aw Man, you still don't see it... it doesn't matter if the Surfer has incredible Speed... if he doesn't display it against Thanos in their battles... how can this help your case as to showing Thanos has Superhuman Reaction Time ?

@king_saturn: Once again, if it was only travel speed, he'd Never Be able to React to Everything in his way While Moving. The Surfer and many others have all demonstrated nanosecond reactions and Thanos stomps the holy hell out of all of them. And it's not just due to strength, but his reactions have proven capable of hitting them.

Even in more recent events, Quasar, Surfer and had Less than a Nanosecond to protect themselves from an attack by Lord Mar-Vell that would've killed them all. Quasar actually borrowed power from everyone there to create a shield strong enough to protect them. And once more, all people Thanos has utterly embarrassed throughout his career.

And the whole "Spider-Man/Juggernaut" thing is completely off base, as is the idea that Majestic is in a strength class high enough to even affect Thanos. Those stronger than him have tried and failed miserably. No one cares if Majestic can benchpress a planet. The strength required to actually Destroy one is far greater. And Thanos treats planet-busters and star-busters and even system-busters all the same way; like insignificant pests.

Even Lord Mar-Vell, who vaped Adam Magus in an instant, who is empowered by the Many-Angled-Ones, Cthonic Deities, aka The Elder Gods. Against Thanos, that seemed to count for nothing. If Thanos hadn't needed him alive to complete the ritual and trick him into restoring Death, Thanos would've killed him easily.

@reikai: I really think you want Thanos to be more than he is. Just like the God Emperor of Mankind vs Thanos. Thanos should not, base on feats, react to Majestic at all.

@indiecomicsftw: And yet, based on Feats, he beats the living frack out of people craptons faster and stronger than Majestic on a regular basis.

Thanos easily.

Notice how SS was one shotted yet Thanos took multiple shots and stayed standing.

As we can see he was able to send Galactus flying back with a single strike. Yes, he was defeated, but still impressive that Galactus was sent back so far and that Galactus was impressed by the strength of his shield.

Defeats Kosmos here

Plus there're are the ones @reikai has uploaded.

Anyway I think this fight would end like this:

By the logic of reikai and pope052 rhino and spiderman are both FTL...

Demonstrating Superhuman Reaction Time does not mean they use it ALL the time or even against Thanos... Superman has Superhuman Combat Speed... but he doesn't always use it against his opponents. That is what you miss... and considering you still have not shown anything that suggest Thanos does have this Superhuman Reaction Time yet... your points are still off base. You gotta show that Thanos is actually reacting to someone while they are using this great combat speed as you say he does.

That only shows that Surfer and Quasar are capable of Superhuman Reaction Time... that has nothing to do with Thanos reaction time or Thanos catching Surfer or Quasar while they was using their Combat Speed ( look back at Superman example ). It's the same thing, unless you can show that Thanos is catching these characters while they are using such reaction time... it's a waste because just because Surfer and Quasar can move fast does not mean they are doing it in the panels with Thanos or at least at the speeds you claim so.

And once again, you miss the big picture. The point was that Majestic has Speed and Strength on his side. Thanos may be able to tank attacks from opponents who can blow up Planets... but can he tank thousands of attacks from someone who can generate Pre Crisis Superman level strength and he not be able to hit back ? Eventually it would wear him down... because unlike every one else Thanos has fought... Big Purple doesn't get his thousands of times without bringing back a return attack in an exchange... but considering Thanos lack of combat speed feats and Majestic being the Faster Fighter and someone with the Strength that could hurt him eventually... I think that could prove a significant problem for ole Purple Puss.

Lord Mar-Vell's resume is Cannon Fodder here. Who cares who he was powered by... he didn't do diddly squad in the Combat Speed or Physical Strength Department... he just showed high end Cosmic Power Feats.

@sog7dc: Because they jumped a Pacifistic Surfer who put in Zero Effort in trying to hurt them? No. There are Circumstances for things. And in all those involving Thanos, restraint means death. Only reason any of these people survive an encounter with Thanos is because he Lets Them Live.

@reikai: All you need to do is post scans of Thanos' reaction time.

@reikai said:

Singularity had a 2lightyear radius, 4lightyear diameter. That's large enough to cover multiple solar systems. And then it collapsed in on itself shortly thereafter. This is all it did. And it was a device he himself created, and was used against him by his Thanosi that were released without his knowledge by Atlez.

what??

a singularity is can't have a diameter, it's a singularity. singularities are formed when something is condensed down to a single point. the event horizon on the other hand can have a diameter but not the singularity it self.

tl;dr learn your physics terms

@reikai: Lol you always have an explanation I'll give you that. Theyre terrible but theyre explanations noemtheless

@dondave: Clearly you haven't been looking. But I know people like you. People who only look for the Narrator to explicitly tell them what is Obvious to everyone else. I'm a Marvel fan. We don't need our hands held.

Lol

Thanos wins, people need to stop thinking speed is everything in comicbooks is has constantly been proven to be not the case

Lmao...

And they're STILL waiting...

I don't want to enter into this debate but i want just to clarify 2 things.There is just one difference with the fights that Superman and Majestic had with the Eradicator: the Eradicator that was fighting Superman was the size of a buiding, the one who was fighting against Mj was almost human in size, lets say he was as big as the Hulk.

You can think he can withstand to a trip through the sun, but the most logical deduction is that he can't. Majestic hasn't taken just a little precaution with it, he has spent a whole week inside a special tube in order to transmute his whole body into proto-neutronion, since (as it was stated on panel) "every matter would be atomized".Now before you say: "but his costume wasn't atomized", it simply possible that the tube has strengthened it. Plus it wasn't stated anywhere that he has spent weeks in the sun, it was simply stated that Desmond has lost his radio signal for weeks and it was told right when mj was flying across the sun. The most probable thing is that Mj has interrupted the radio signal once he was into his special tube, then he has flown into the sun (hence the signal was still disturbed) and then he has spent another week in that tube in order to obtain his old body. Now the last part is merely a speculation ( it wasn't stated anywhere that he has used his tube twice) i am just assuming that he did it since he needed 7 days to change himself so he could have used other 7 days to change himself back.However even if this is just a speculation, it is less forced than believing he has spent all that time inside the sun, especially if we consider that the art shows us a pretty quick action, that seemed to last minutes...let alone weeks.

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You know what I realized, no one on this thread has posted any speed feats for Mr. Majestic. Which is silly. You have Thanos regularly beating guys who are faster than light but who a lot of haters think is slow. You have Mr. Majestic who is supposed to be a nanosecond reaction speedster but regularly gets tagged by much slower people. My conclusion? Thanos will and can tag Mr Majestic. How could you conclude any different?

Mr Majestic has been tagged by Zealot, Nemesis, spartan, Ladytron, Warblade, Dreamwar Teen Titans (Raven is not ftl) , DreamWar Hal jordan) and stabbed by red blade Sébastien (again no evidence that he moved faster than light in that scan). His speed is inconsistent to say the least. In the end I believe thanos with his telepathy should come out on top.