Round one is hard to say. Thanos has never been stopped before in a fight, he only loses to plot devices. If any group of heroes would be powerful enough to stop him it would be the JL.
Can't flash run faster that time and used the speed force to steal speed which Thanos cannot use. Also just BFRing is possible since Thanos cannot control that.
SS is quite powerful but it's more range of abilities rather than galaxy buster. Like transmuting matter and stuff? And the green lantern corps are insanly powerful. Isn't the green lantern ring the most powerful weapon in the universe in the right hands? SMP1M used it to destroy Solaris and put a large symbol on the sun.
As far as your first post: I'm not sure. I've never seen The Flash steal speed from someone with virtually-limitless power.
Insofar as the second: Yes, Surfer is very powerful. My point was just that even exceedingly capable characters get overblown. Nah, "the most powerful weapon in the universe" is hyperbolic. There're weapons that exceed power-rings by far. The Warlogog/Philosopher's Stone being one.
@eternityx: May I ask you? Can Surfer replicate that feat? I also found a calculation on the infamous scan of the korean city rescue.
To be fair, though, him having done this in .00001 microseconds puts him so far beyond the speed of light as to be utterly ridiculous. Wally traveled 70 miles, round trip, at least 250,000 times. That’s the equivalent of 17,500,000 miles, also known as a hair over 3/4 of the way from the Earth to the sun. He ran a total of 17,500,000 miles in one hundred-thousandth of a microsecond. Multiply that by one hundred thousand to get the distance he can run in one second, and then that by sixty by the distance he can run in one minute, and then that by sixty again to get his mph. I got 6,300,000,000,000,000,000,000mph. 6.3 sextillion miles per. That’s 34,054,054,054,054,054 times the speed of light. And that’s if I lowball it and say he always carried two people at once.
That first scan isn't a feat. There are no numbers so we can't calculate his speed, plus, like I've already said it says "combined velocities", meaning it wasn't the Flash's speed alone.
As to the second one, your calculation is correct, however the writers intended that to be less than the speed of light, as they say "at a hair's breadth short of the speed of light", which means they did not intend to make him so fast, they did so by accident, thus that feat is not an accurate representation of his speed.
You blind. My first scan is easily calculated. Light travels from moon to Earth in 1 second. Planck time is 10−44 seconds. So wally is probably a few Quattuordecillion times FTL.
The Second scan is just WIS. Can light travel 17,500,000 miles in .00001 Microsecond? The answer is no.
Are you blind? In your first scan there aren't even any numbers and like I've said a hundred times already, it says "combined speeds", meaning it is not his speed alone.
As to the second scan, I already said that the writers didn't intend for him to go at that speed, which is why they said he was almost at the speed of light, what he did in the second scan was a complete accident and not an accurate showing of his speed.
There are at least 3 instances where Thanos beats Thor to a pulp with ease. He's also beaten the Surfer to the brink of death with only a handful of punches. He went toe to toe with Tyrant (in an even match), and Tyrant was able to take on Silver Surfer, Morg, Terrax, Beta Ray Bill, Gladiator , Ganymede and Jack of Hearts AT THE SAME TIME and beat them. That group consists of at least 4 planet busters, and is way more powerful than the team listed in round 1.
Secondly, Thanos took on Odin, in Asgard, and was nearly his equal in power. And keep in mind that this fight occurred before Thanos' second resurrection and a massive upgrade in power.
Third, before the most recent Infinity event, Thanos was still barred from entering Mistress Deaths realm, which means he literally cannot die. In The Thanos Imperative, Drax turns Thanos to ash, and he regenerates almost instantly.
Finally, Thanos is AT LEAST even with Darkseid in power, and there are many instances where Darkseid takes on the entire JL by himself.
Besides, round 1 is the only instance where he's in the slightest bit of danger. He kills everyone but Superman and Wonderwoman in the opening moments, and they follow soon after.
@eternityx: May I ask you? Can Surfer replicate that feat? I also found a calculation on the infamous scan of the korean city rescue.
To be fair, though, him having done this in .00001 microseconds puts him so far beyond the speed of light as to be utterly ridiculous. Wally traveled 70 miles, round trip, at least 250,000 times. That’s the equivalent of 17,500,000 miles, also known as a hair over 3/4 of the way from the Earth to the sun. He ran a total of 17,500,000 miles in one hundred-thousandth of a microsecond. Multiply that by one hundred thousand to get the distance he can run in one second, and then that by sixty by the distance he can run in one minute, and then that by sixty again to get his mph. I got 6,300,000,000,000,000,000,000mph. 6.3 sextillion miles per. That’s 34,054,054,054,054,054 times the speed of light. And that’s if I lowball it and say he always carried two people at once.
That first scan isn't a feat. There are no numbers so we can't calculate his speed, plus, like I've already said it says "combined velocities", meaning it wasn't the Flash's speed alone.
As to the second one, your calculation is correct, however the writers intended that to be less than the speed of light, as they say "at a hair's breadth short of the speed of light", which means they did not intend to make him so fast, they did so by accident, thus that feat is not an accurate representation of his speed.
You blind. My first scan is easily calculated. Light travels from moon to Earth in 1 second. Planck time is 10−44 seconds. So wally is probably a few Quattuordecillion times FTL.
The Second scan is just WIS. Can light travel 17,500,000 miles in .00001 Microsecond? The answer is no.
Are you blind? In your first scan there aren't even any numbers and like I've said a hundred times already, it says "combined speeds", meaning it is not his speed alone.
As to the second scan, I already said that the writers didn't intend for him to go at that speed, which is why they said he was almost at the speed of light, what he did in the second scan was a complete accident and not an accurate showing of his speed.
Really? What the writer said was WIS. It would be like me writing about a character, I wrote "He couldn't lift 10 tons" but in the panel he lifted something 100+ tons. It's called WIS.
@eternityx: May I ask you? Can Surfer replicate that feat? I also found a calculation on the infamous scan of the korean city rescue.
To be fair, though, him having done this in .00001 microseconds puts him so far beyond the speed of light as to be utterly ridiculous. Wally traveled 70 miles, round trip, at least 250,000 times. That’s the equivalent of 17,500,000 miles, also known as a hair over 3/4 of the way from the Earth to the sun. He ran a total of 17,500,000 miles in one hundred-thousandth of a microsecond. Multiply that by one hundred thousand to get the distance he can run in one second, and then that by sixty by the distance he can run in one minute, and then that by sixty again to get his mph. I got 6,300,000,000,000,000,000,000mph. 6.3 sextillion miles per. That’s 34,054,054,054,054,054 times the speed of light. And that’s if I lowball it and say he always carried two people at once.
That first scan isn't a feat. There are no numbers so we can't calculate his speed, plus, like I've already said it says "combined velocities", meaning it wasn't the Flash's speed alone.
As to the second one, your calculation is correct, however the writers intended that to be less than the speed of light, as they say "at a hair's breadth short of the speed of light", which means they did not intend to make him so fast, they did so by accident, thus that feat is not an accurate representation of his speed.
You blind. My first scan is easily calculated. Light travels from moon to Earth in 1 second. Planck time is 10−44 seconds. So wally is probably a few Quattuordecillion times FTL.
The Second scan is just WIS. Can light travel 17,500,000 miles in .00001 Microsecond? The answer is no.
Are you blind? In your first scan there aren't even any numbers and like I've said a hundred times already, it says "combined speeds", meaning it is not his speed alone.
As to the second scan, I already said that the writers didn't intend for him to go at that speed, which is why they said he was almost at the speed of light, what he did in the second scan was a complete accident and not an accurate showing of his speed.
Really? What the writer said was WIS. It would be like me writing about a character, I wrote "He couldn't lift 10 tons" but in the panel he lifted something 100+ tons. It's called WIS.
The difference is that this is all in the same scan, the writers have said this feat specifically, is not a faster than light feat, they didn't expect someone to go and actually calculate how fast he was going, which is why they used random numbers, this is further supported by the fact that he has never gone close to this speed ever again.
1- in the first scan you see the bomb detonates and the is no one on the hill. This is important because if you can see the light from the hill which means that Flash was moving slower than light ( since it got there first)
2- in the second scan the mushroom effect has began to form this normally takes at least 3 seconds and only a hand full of people are on the hill
3- the mushroom has formed this takes between 10- 20 seconds
4- the writer himself collaborates the images by saying Flash was under light speed as light got to the hill before he did
The scans and the writer confirm that Flash was under light speed, only the numbers dont agree. So this feat is either confirmation of Flash going less than light or should be discarded
@clownprinceofcrime1995: It's never been shown as such(best to my knowledge). Even though they're very powerful, and only made moreso by being in the vicinity of a blue-lantern, there's still a limit to their capabilities(as I said, I've never seen the rings portrayed as enacting destruction on, say, a galactic-scale even with top tier wielders like Hal Jordan or Sinestro). Which makes sense, given when more major threats arise, Lanterns usually join forces. Even before other colors of the emotional-spectrum were introduced.
They're potentially "limitless" in a similar way that Superman or Hulk's strength is potentially limitless. Arguably, or theoretically, but not actually portrayed that way(most of the time).
@clownprinceofcrime1995: I wouldn't think so, because the central-power battery(basically the reservoir of will-power for the universe) isn't "infinite" itself.
JL one and two maybe three wins Wally and Barry throwing 1000 IMPs per second at him. Also they could BFR him into the Speed force? Plus supes various abilities and MM trying to mindrape him.
BFR a high end Energy Manipulator in a realm of pure energy. That's a good idea. ;p
1) Speedsteal has nothing to do with how "powerful" someone is, at all.
2) Thanos is laughably outmatched here. DC handles "speed" way differently than Marvel. He's not facing someone with limited offensive output like Gamora or CIS-laden Surfer just blasting away, forgetting his own powerset/speed(?).
3) His battle with West alone would just be a repeat of his outing with the Runner (of proportions). Cept there's no CIS/PIS here.
4) This is getting old, recycled arguments with random counter arguments. Just let this thread die.
Lol seems like it but it's an energy only DC speedsters can access so even if by some miricle he absorbs the energy he still can't get out.
Reality Gem, the most difficult Infinity Gem to wield by itself is like a child's toy to Thanos. He even controlled HOTU. Speed Force is nothing. I also think that Thanos would covet the Central Batteries more than the Speed Force. ;p
But in this hasn't Thanos only got the power and soul gems?
The Power Gem itself is a Big Factor, Thanos can use it to AMP his shields to God knows what level so there is no passing it. Phasing is irrelevant because his shields is also mystical in nature.
The red Power Gem gives the owner access to all power and energy that ever has or will exist, since this is a Battle Forum, the PG can very well duplicate the speed force. PG also allows the user to duplicate practically any physical superhuman ability that means Flash Speed for Thanos.
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