Thanos VS Apocalypse

" @council elite said:

" @Edamame said:

" @council elite: Apocalypse doesn't respect anyone except for himself. "

ya but he's willing to team up with ppl to get what he wants, he has before. so has thanos. "

What use would Thanos ever have for Apocalypse???  That's like SS needing Captain Americas help lol "

" @council elite said:

" @bumnut: apoc has celestial tech that could be quite useful to thanos. "

Nah. Thanos is much more intelligent than Apocalypse. "

" @council elite: Apocalypse is highly resistant to telepathy, but yes. "

" @council elite: Thanos is too smart to let that happen. "

Thanos wins.

Keep in mind the last we saw of Apoc he basically killed Stryfe and took over his body.  Right before that he shrugged off his best attacks (Think X-man caliber).  Now he is even stronger.
 
 
Im not saying Thanos wont win but I dont think it would be as easy as some might think.

"Apocalypse is not even close to being a contender for Cosmic levels of power.  Magneto would have a better chance defeating Thanos.  When you compare to grade A villains (Ultron, Magneto, Loki, Kang, Hulk, Annihallus, etc) Apocalypse is a step down from that.  Oh and Thanos CURBSTOMP! "

" Apocalypse is not even close to being a contender for Cosmic levels of power.  Magneto would have a better chance defeating Thanos.  When you compare to grade A villains (Ultron, Magneto, Loki, Kang, Hulk, Annihallus, etc) Apocalypse is a step down from that."

" @RiseofApocalypse:  He has beaten the Higher Evolutionary and made a mockery of his workings in Super sized annual X Factor The Evolutionary War 64 pages. "

People really need to do thorough research on both characters. Also need to understand their personalities, accomplishments, how they use their powers. The Punisher doesn't have any powers but we know he could beat people that don't have powers. Having cosmic power doesn't mean your the best it just means you have one of the most powerful powers. It is the way you use it. For example people like Silver Surfer only use their powers in a very limited way. If I was the Silver Surfer and I was going to fight Thanos on his planet I would use my speed to the max and hit Thanos with me being the living comet. Thanos doesn't use his powers or the ones he gains intelligently. He just uses them to blast you.

" @Mr Golden Rod said:

" @RiseofApocalypse:  He has beaten the Higher Evolutionary and made a mockery of his workings in Super sized annual X Factor The Evolutionary War 64 pages. "

He stalemated a highly evolved HE, he didn't beat him. They exchanged their philosophies and stuff and Apoc left. Not good enough since Thanos > HE.. "

"@Manchine said:

" Apocalypse is not even close to being a contender for Cosmic levels of power.  Magneto would have a better chance defeating Thanos.  When you compare to grade A villains (Ultron, Magneto, Loki, Kang, Hulk, Annihallus, etc) Apocalypse is a step down from that."

Wrong on all accounts. Read Acts of Vengeance please. Loki in that story fooled Magneto, Doom, Kingpin, Red Skull, etc. but not Apocalypse because he could see through his disguise hence their little fight which Loki had to flee from. Apocalypse has stalemated people like High Evolutionary during the Evolutionary Wars (HE was evolved beyond (people like Thor). He has tanked Bolt's scream without flinching (granted he had a small amp). Can we say the same thing for Hulk? No. Apocalypse is as A villain as it gets and would crush all the people you mentioned easy (minus Loki perhaps). "

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

"Apocalypse is as A villain as it gets and would crush all the people you mentioned easy (minus Loki perhaps). "

Apocalypse could never defeat Magneto. "

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" @Mr Golden Rod said:

" @RiseofApocalypse:  He has beaten the Higher Evolutionary and made a mockery of his workings in Super sized annual X Factor The Evolutionary War 64 pages. "

He stalemated a highly evolved HE, he didn't beat him. They exchanged their philosophies and stuff and Apoc left. Not good enough since Thanos > HE.. "

That says nothing, since HE has no fighting skills to speak of.  "

 
@Manchine

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

"@Manchine said:

" Apocalypse is not even close to being a contender for Cosmic levels of power.  Magneto would have a better chance defeating Thanos.  When you compare to grade A villains (Ultron, Magneto, Loki, Kang, Hulk, Annihallus, etc) Apocalypse is a step down from that."

Wrong on all accounts. Read Acts of Vengeance please. Loki in that story fooled Magneto, Doom, Kingpin, Red Skull, etc. but not Apocalypse because he could see through his disguise hence their little fight which Loki had to flee from. Apocalypse has stalemated people like High Evolutionary during the Evolutionary Wars (HE was evolved beyond (people like Thor). He has tanked Bolt's scream without flinching (granted he had a small amp). Can we say the same thing for Hulk? No. Apocalypse is as A villain as it gets and would crush all the people you mentioned easy (minus Loki perhaps). "

Got to laugh at this.  He has taken on High Evolutionary, which is the only thing he has done..  He also been destroyed by a whisper from Black Bolt (That amp was a lot more then a little).  He was barely able to defeat a DIEING hulk.  Sorry he is not even close to A lister villains.   
 
This is almost as bad as people argueing that storm can beat (insert name here). "

 Apocalypse did know that Mr Sinister created a mutant just to defeat him. He even captured the mutant and infected him the techno organic virus. Apocalypse plans everything out and has back up plans. Even when it appears that he lost the battle, it would actually be something in his doing. He inevitably ends up ruling the world. When he actually fights opponents like Onslaught, he figures out their weakness. Thanos has alot of power himself and has attained power that can blows up half the universe. That is his typical plan; he gets the infinity gem or something godly like that to kill everyone in the universe to satisfy Mistress Death. He and the writers that made him know he needs a ultimate power to do anything grand enough that would make it look like he got close to succeeding. In the 3 minute video on Thanos by G Man it shows he ultimately fails. He comes back and fails. In a comparison of Apocalypse vs Thanos, lets start out with intelligence and strategic planning. I have already said Thanos's plans and how they ultimately fail. Apocalypse has been planning his reign for years. If it weren't for Cable then everybody in Marvel would have just fallen to Apocalypse's knees. Cable himself said that there was nothing left but Apocalypse's rule all over the world and Clan Chosen. Apocalypse conquered the world while Thanos couldn't conquer his own world. Apocalypse has ruled armies throughout history while Thanos has never even taken over one army. In the sense of powers and how the powers are used by Apocalypse is better because he has atcually a bunch of abilities that are only matched by a very small amount of people. Thanos goes for high power because he knows he can't do anything on his own. Apocalypse only looks for a new vessel for his ancient power because those powers exhaust  the body he's in. Magneto only beat Apocalypse, when Apocalyspe didn't have his powers. In X Men Evolution Apocalypse took over Magneto and Xavier's mind and made them his horseman. I read up on Comic Vine that this version of Apocalyspe was the same one. Magneto is under him. Thanos would not be able to do anything against Apocalypse when he is using his psychic, energy, physical abilities

thanos wins.

I go with Thanos.  Apocalypse is no slouch, though.

" I can't find the thread either to bump. So. "

" Actually, I have two posts already in it. I can't bump. "

Laugh all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that I'm right, and you're wrong.. You're talking House of M, BB never did anything to 616 Apocalypse. The instance that I'm referring to, happened in 616 reality. The amp was Cable's powers before he had reached his full potential... That's what? Like a meta level amp? He wasn't barely able to defeat a dying Hulk, he easily restrained him. Where did you get this "barely" from? I want you to post the scans to prove it. He is as A list villain as it gets, sorry you don't like it.  "

Thanos

Thanos

" @RiseofApocalypse: You really do when you miss all of your attacks.  "

thanos duh

" @CosmicSpiral said:

" @RiseofApocalypse: You really do when you miss all of your attacks.  "

Apocalypse dodged them. "

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" @CosmicSpiral said:

" @RiseofApocalypse: You really do when you miss all of your attacks.  "

Apocalypse dodged them. "

And how does that prove anything about Apoc's power again? "