Thanos {hotu} Vs DC,Marvel.

Thanos with hotu goes even more insane now with the heart of the universe and seeks to end everything everywhere! All characters are aloud but no 'one above all'. Can he be stopped?? Thanos is in central park nyc eating bagels before starting to destroy all. ,,,,,,,vs,,,,,,,

Presence stops him.

Lucifer and Michael stomp

Death of the Endless gets Thanos to give her the HOTU.

@Jayfournines said:

Lucifer and Michael stomp

No way, Thanos curbstomps them both along with the Living Tribunal and everything else

1. Lucifer morningstar

2. Great evil Beast

3. The Presence

4. The one Above all

@kingkronos said:

1. Lucifer morningstar

2. Great evil Beast

3. The Presence

4. The one Above all

I believe that this is incorrect.

@Jayfournines said:

Lucifer and Michael stomp

Lucifer yes, but not Michael.

@Jayfournines said:

Lucifer and Michael stomp

@jeanroygrant said:

Presence stops him.

@CitizenBane said:

Death of the Endless gets Thanos to give her the HOTU.

These four would beat him.

@kingkronos said:

@Jayfournines said:

Lucifer and Michael stomp

Lucifer yes, but not Michael.

They are meant to be equal, why would you think one can and the other cannot?

The problem is we have no clue how powerful he was with HOTU, he never really lost he just got sad and killed himself (much like what Spiderman villians are doing in spiderman movie, Mr. Lizard i know you look like $hit in the movie, but plz plz do not kill yourself).

@blackadamFTW: I forgot about Elaine Belloc. Her with Lucifer, Michael, Spectre, and Death of the Endless (and the other Endless) should take it.

Is the Presence allowed in this fight?

• One Above All solos
• Presence solos
• Living Tribunal solos

Too many people solo.

I.A.T.

@Killemall: We know thanos is multiversal. And lucifer took an attack without a scratch.

@kingkronos said:

@Killemall: We know thanos is multiversal. And lucifer took an attack without a scratch.

Firstly i believe i asked you something different, why do you believe Lucifer can beat Thanos but Micheal cannot, they are equal in terms of power.

I do not believe the world multiversal was ever really used in Heart Of The Universe, all it states is that its the power of the creator of the universe, so we assume its TOAA's powers but thats pretty much all we know. He easily beat LT and all the abstracts, absorbed them within himself, so we know he's insanely powers but then he was never defeated so we dont know the true extent to his powers. How do we know a multiverse destroying attack would scratch him?

Only The Presence and The One Above All could stomp him.

Lucifer and Michael, no.

@Killemall: Well, maybe because Michael's most powerful attack (demiurge power) didn't do jack to lucifer. How can he be not more powerful?

And I don't really think that thanos is more than multiversal level. That's from what I'm basing that lucifer can beat him. Lucifer also was able to go to the void, which was beyond creation. Michael's most powerful attack didn't do jack ass to lucifer. And he created a multiverse from demiurge power. But after all he shaped the multiverse.

@kingkronos said:

@Killemall: Well, maybe because Michael's most powerful attack (demiurge power) didn't do jack to lucifer. How can he be not more powerful?

And I don't really think that thanos is more than multiversal level. That's from what I'm basing that lucifer can beat him. Lucifer also was able to go to the void, which was beyond creation. Michael's most powerful attack didn't do jack ass to lucifer. And he created a multiverse from demiurge power. But after all he shaped the multiverse.

Demiurge is the presence's power granted upon Michael and he has used that to hurt Lucifer and i think thats the only instance in lucifer series where Lucifer was hurt.

Because Presence SAID so and was re-iterated like 5 times during Lucifer series.

@Killemall: Yes I know what demiurfe power is. Michael and Lucifer can create entire multiverses with that power.

@kingkronos said:

@Killemall: Yes I know what demiurfe power is. Michael and Lucifer can create entire multiverses with that power.

And you know while they fight for a brief moment, Michael attacked Lucifer got hurt and they stopped, and you told me Michael didnt do jack to Lucifer with his attack?

I am not saying Thanos wins, the reason i replied was i was suprised to see Michael cant and Lucifer can beat him, because they are equal.

What i am also saying is, we have little to no knoweledge of the true extent of Thanos's power apart from the fact that he was tapping in the power of TOAA himself.

Squirrel Girl solos.

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

• One Above All solos
• Presence solos
• Living Tribunal solos

Too many people solo.

I.A.T.

Thanos fought and absorbed Living tribunal within in the same story arc, so how on earth does LT solo?

Can you not rename this thread Thanos With Hotu vs Presence? There is no proof of who would win so it is quite a pointless thread In My opinion.

@Killemall: I told you that the multiversal attack didn't do practically anything to lucifer. That is why I think that Lucifer is more powerful. Now we know how powerful lucifer is, but we don't know much about thanos to put him above multiverse level.

@Killemall: Also man, he destroyed morpheus' dimension with a god damn breathe. And IIRC it was stated by morpheus that lucifer was the most powerful being. Second to God.

@kingkronos said:

@Killemall: I told you that the multiversal attack didn't do practically anything to lucifer. That is why I think that Lucifer is more powerful. Now we know how powerful lucifer is, but we don't know much about thanos to put him above multiverse level.

First multiversal attack only shows Lucifer is powerful not that he's more powerful than Michael. Second part is pretty much what i am saying, thanos has the power TOAA and was able to beat LT along with all other abstracts, none of whose attack even phased him. So he has feats but we dont know what he is truely capable of because he never lost. Also most people actually believe LT is more powerful than either Michael or Lucifer, you are welcome to check past threads out.

@kingkronos said:

@Killemall: Also man, he destroyed morpheus' dimension with a god damn breathe. And IIRC it was stated by morpheus that lucifer was the most powerful being. Second to God.

I have not read this instance so i have to ask when did this happen. Lucifer is below presence that much is true, but this has to either happen before Ellaine became the avatar of Presence and after Great Evil Beat was absorbed into Presence himself because we know Lucifer himself acknowledge GEB was more powerful than him and he was scared evil beat was coming, else the validity of this statement can be called into question. then we have at least 5 other times Micheal and Lucifer being acknowledged as equally powerful with Lucifer being the smart one.

@Killemall: Yes I know that many people think that LT is more powerful than michael and lucifer, but I must say this is total BS. I'm sorry, but it's true. They can create entire multiverses together. They are beyond LT the way I see it.

Also, lucifer has other multiversal feats like shrinking the entire multiverse to the size of a fist. That is reality warping at it's best.

It's also debatable whether GEB is more powerful than lucifer. But I think he is. He's after all the dark side of the presence.

Living Tribunal is written to be only being second to TOAA, I never sees LT delete or recreate a universe, but he oversees the Marvel Omniverse according to his supposed description so he should be able to do it, and weaker characters have shown to be capable of destroying/creating a universe. Theoretical LT can create multiverse, but from feat, I didn't recall any of that I know of.

@jeanroygrant said:

Presence stops him.

@Jayfournines said:

Lucifer and Michael stomp

@kingkronos said:

1. Lucifer morningstar

2. Great evil Beast

3. The Presence

4. The one Above all

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

• One Above All solos
• Presence solos
• Living Tribunal solos

Too many people solo.

I.A.T.

@Nefarious said:

Squirrel Girl solos.

Batman solos.

Batman solos.

• One Above All solos
• Presence solos
• Living Tribunal solos

Too many people solo.

I.A.T.

I don't see LT solos

Dream, DC death etc etc

This battle is trivial. It's obvious DC and Marvel combined wins.