Thanos,Despero,SS,Zoom Vs Darkseid,Fernus,Cyborg S,H'el

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#1  Edited By Kingant27

All Blood-Lusted

No-Prep

Moral OFF

NO Telepathy/TP.

Fight takes place on an indestructible abandoned Earth where they can go all out.

NO BFR

Fight to the Death or KO.

(Pre-52/New-52 for Dc characters)

They start 1 mile apart.

(Post Upgrade)Thanos, Despero, (Post-Annihilation)Silver Surfer, (Hunter Zolomon)Zoom

Vs

Darkseid, Fernus, Cyborg Superman(W/10 Rings), H'el,

Who wins, and why?

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Team 1 stomps

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#5  Edited By MAZAHS117

Team 1 is pretty scary

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@kingant27: One of your first mismatch my friend. Team 1 is indeed scary.

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Despero can solo

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Despero solos

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@highaccuser: @reaverlation: How so, H'el can time travel, Cyborg Superman isn't being TP'd, Fernus is near his level or on par potentially; Despero isn't solo'ing.

@bullpr: Isn't a Mismatch in the slightest.

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@kingant27: Fernus is J'onn and J'onn has been telepathically stomped by Despero so Fernus joins Team 1.Hank gets hypnotized onto Despero's team by Despero.H'el gets TP'd and guess what happens to Uxas?TP'd.Despero solos

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@kingant27: That's just my opinion. Nobody is going to hurt Thanos, nobody is going to tag Zoom or a blood lusted Surfer, Fernus won't be able to protect everyone from team one TP. This battle can turn ugly very quickly. You speaking about time traveling, surfer feats are quite good in this area. No, seriously, usually your battles are on target. Not this (for me).

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#12  Edited By Dredeuced

We might be a couple months away from New 52 Darkseid soloing. Looks like he's gonna go toe to toe with the Anti Monitor. But, until then, Team 1.

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Team 1 wins

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Wow and i think the Thanos wank was bad

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#15  Edited By Kingant27

As people think this is unfair, should I add someone, or change team 2 up tommorow...

@reaverlation: He isn't really, as MMH can't just become Fernus whenever, like how Sentry could become the Void.

Fernus was above J'ohn, as shown with the Arkam Asylum feat/Joker feat.

Hank is part robot, so I don't see how TP is going to put him down.

H'el can time travel, and H'el has his own immpresive TP, which works even on Superman, who recently/apparently to highly resistant to TP; in his recentish encounter with Braniac.

@BullPR: You some good points, but it is in know way a Mismatch, which assumes they shouldn't be paired up with these characters.

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@highaccuser: @reaverlation: How so, H'el can time travel, Cyborg Superman isn't being TP'd, Fernus is near his level or on par potentially; Despero isn't solo'ing.

@bullpr: Isn't a Mismatch in the slightest.

Surfer can time travel too and Cyborg Superman has been TPd before.

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#17  Edited By Kingant27

@mysticmedivh: I know he can, I was one of the people on here who was demonstrating scans against those who said New-52 Captain Atom beats Norrin via time travel etc...

Cyborg Superman is half robot I thought, but people were making out he can't be TP'd, as he is a robot...

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Team 1.

Even if Hank doesn't get TP'd he can't pull a win for his team.

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Going with Team 1

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Team 1 with Thanos being the factor .

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Team 1. Nice to see Despero getting respect.

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As people think this is unfair, should I add someone, or change team 2 up tommorow...

@reaverlation: He isn't really, as MMH can't just become Fernus whenever, like how Sentry could become the Void.

Fernus was above J'ohn, as shown with the Arkam Asylum feat/Joker feat.

Hank is part robot, so I don't see how TP is going to put him down.

H'el can time travel, and H'el has his own immpresive TP, which works even on Superman, who recently/apparently to highly resistant to TP; in his recentish encounter with Braniac.

@BullPR: You some good points, but it is in know way a Mismatch, which assumes they shouldn't be paired up with these characters.

Fernus is not an amp. Joe Kelly, his creator confirmed this, he's just a morals off J'onn.

Cyborg Superman has been mindcontrolled before and will be again.

Superman's Telepathic defence is pathethic in the New 52. He's fallen to it every time he's come across it. He didn't resist Brianiac, Brainiac didnt try to get into his mind until Super Doom reached his Mothership and then Brainiac effortlessly entered his mind.

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#26  Edited By Kingant27

@dondave: I never said it is an amp as such, but Feenus did things J'ohn couldn't do TP wise, and J'ohn has never shown the ability to become Fernus again; even when angry.

So Cyborg Superman can be TP'd...

There was a scan showing him, Diana and MMH, with apparently TP being not effective; was that due to there own mental strength?

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@dondave: I never said it is an amp as such, but Feenus did things J'ohn couldn't do TP wise, and J'ohn has never shown the ability to become Fernus again; even when angry.

So Cyborg Superman can be TP'd...

There was a scan showing him, Diana and MMH, with apparently TP being not effective; was that due to there own mental strength?

He seperated from Fernus and then proceeded to destroy him. Did you even read Trial By Fire?

Yes.

Martian Manhunnter and Diana yes. He didn't attack Superman until he got to his Mothership and he had no problem entering his mind.

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@kingant27: did you really just make a battle with Bloodlusted and morals off zoom? He solos.

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Despero doesnt solo J'onn has beaten Despero in TP and Fernus is a stronger version. Team 1 still stomps.

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Team 1, no one is soloing..

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why zoom on team 1?

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Team 1 wrecks

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Team 1, however the accusations that anyone solos is sorely wrong here.

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Team 1

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Team 1

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Team 1 thanks to Zoom, whos a bit unfair since he could solo the battlefield. Without him team 2.

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Team 1 Zoom is the main factor

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bloodlusted zoom is a womplord he solos 9.99/10

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Despero doesnt solo J'onn has beaten Despero in TP and Fernus is a stronger version. Team 1 still stomps.

Not in the Pre-52 universe and no Fernus isn't a stronger version of J'onn.

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It says both pre and new 52 so didn't Despero get stomped by MM recently? Also with pre and new for Darkseid isn't he a mutiversal threat who is ridiculously big in size and power.

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@immortal777: Despero's best feats from Pre-52 are still better than MMH.

Darkseid is amped.

@dondave: Yes I did, but my comment was that, why has Fernus had feats that J'ohn couldn't do etc.

It stated all 3 could resist.

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#43  Edited By Chimeroid

@dondave said:
@chimeroid said:

Despero doesnt solo J'onn has beaten Despero in TP and Fernus is a stronger version. Team 1 still stomps.

Not in the Pre-52 universe and no Fernus isn't a stronger version of J'onn.

This is composite versions so i have to include that as a working feat. Jonn did beat Despero. Also, i seem to remember Fernus being stronger than Jonn, using powers differently and having pyrokinesis and reproduction.

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Team 1 stomps

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Team 1.

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Team One is Not stomping any one ! Am taking it as a Stalemate !

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BUMP

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Team 1, Bloodlusted Surfer, and Bloodlusted Zoom, are not something to be trifled with man, Zoom fought the justice league by himself, and you know he wasnt trying to kill anyone, and the Surfer is a pascifist, and still woops all kinds of heavy hitters, along with Despero and Thanos, team 1 is an absolute monster. love the profile pic btw @kingant27 phoenix cyclops is one bamf

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Still team 1.