#1 Posted by MFrenzy11 (466 posts) - - Show Bio
Thanos
Avengers Assemble #3
And
Orion
Vs.
Darkseid
And
Superman
Kal-El
  • Rules
  • Pre 52 for dc characters
  • No morals
  • No BFR
  • Bloodlust on
  • The fight takes place in space
#2 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Why does Superman look so big compared to Lex Luthor? O.o

#3 Posted by MFrenzy11 (466 posts) - - Show Bio
Lol
#4 Posted by XiiX (7163 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Team 1.

#5 Posted by MFrenzy11 (466 posts) - - Show Bio
Hmmm I dunno who'd win imo
#6 Posted by SirMethos (1304 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

Darkseid beats Thanos, and bloodlusted Superman with no morals speed blitzes Orion.

Would be a much more even match with morals on.

#7 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (4792 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

#8 Posted by sync1 (2713 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Anyone care to explain how a bloodlusted Team 2 loses..? ._.

#9 Posted by MFrenzy11 (466 posts) - - Show Bio
All right I hv made up my mind team 1
#10 Posted by whydama (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 wins. A bloodlusted Thanos can easily kill Bloodlusted Superman while Orion holds off Darkseid.

#11 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5043 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

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#12 Posted by agentxx (2533 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

#13 Posted by TheCannon (17839 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

#14 Posted by Z3RO180 (6250 posts) - - Show Bio

team two win Darkseid takes thanos. Supes takes orion.

#15 Posted by btmt (222 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman and Darkseid wins!!!!!!!

#16 Posted by tuananhxu99001 (96 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably team 1 cause Orion has beaten Darkseid before (right?), and Thanos can beat Superman like he beated Silver Surfer

#17 Posted by spawn_123 (1693 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

#18 Posted by XiiX (7163 posts) - - Show Bio

@tuananhxu99001: Orion was prophesized to defeat/kill Darkseid.

#19 Edited by kcaz (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos(without cosmic cube) will be busy with Darkseid. their strength and power should be about equal, but thanos has much more durability feats to outlast darkseid. orion should be able to defeat supes. orion's strenght rival's superman and captain marvel's, and he has better h2h skills and tech.

#20 Posted by xxxddd (3569 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

Thanos beats Darkseid, then teams up with Orion to take down Superman.

#21 Posted by Killemall (18183 posts) - - Show Bio

@tuananhxu99001 said:

Probably team 1 cause Orion has beaten Darkseid before (right?), and Thanos can beat Superman like he beated Silver Surfer

Orion has beaten Darkseid three times now, and the morals off gives him the opportunity to take off his mother box, making him berserk, last time that happened he dispatched with Darkseid pretty easily (4 panels), one fight Darkseid lost because he wanted to lose (plot reason), and the latest one comes from Countdown to Final Crisis 1.

@SirMethos said:

Team 2.

Darkseid beats Thanos, and bloodlusted Superman with no morals speed blitzes Orion.

Would be a much more even match with morals on.

I like the way you are thinking, but wouldnt moral off Orion simply be able to take off his mother box ? Also Thanos has put up shields i dont see Superman going through them, Thanos also has multiple counts of telepathy, with the latest coming from Avengers Assemble 04 where he mind-controlled Hulk to fight Avengers, he might be able to do the same.

So a little off the discussion, i dont think Orion is slow though, i know he doesnt have quantifiable reaction time so to speak but he has never looked slow and i cant remember him ever being blitz.

#22 Posted by Faceroller9001 (2 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@tuananhxu99001 said:

Probably team 1 cause Orion has beaten Darkseid before (right?), and Thanos can beat Superman like he beated Silver Surfer

Orion has beaten Darkseid three times now, and the morals off gives him the opportunity to take off his mother box, making him berserk, last time that happened he dispatched with Darkseid pretty easily (4 panels), one fight Darkseid lost because he wanted to lose (plot reason), and the latest one comes from Countdown to Final Crisis 1.

What comic are you speaking of? If you're talking about the fight they had when they were fighting inside the Source, Darkseid lost on purpose

In the fight when they were literally Kung Fu Fighting, Darkseid...lost on purpose..

So really, the only time Orion ever beat Darkseid was in Countdown because it was his destiny.

#23 Posted by Killemall (18183 posts) - - Show Bio

@Faceroller9001 said:

@Killemall said:

@tuananhxu99001 said:

Probably team 1 cause Orion has beaten Darkseid before (right?), and Thanos can beat Superman like he beated Silver Surfer

Orion has beaten Darkseid three times now, and the morals off gives him the opportunity to take off his mother box, making him berserk, last time that happened he dispatched with Darkseid pretty easily (4 panels), one fight Darkseid lost because he wanted to lose (plot reason), and the latest one comes from Countdown to Final Crisis 1.

What comic are you speaking of? If you're talking about the fight they had when they were fighting inside the Source, Darkseid lost on purpose

In the fight when they were literally Kung Fu Fighting, Darkseid...lost on purpose..

So really, the only time Orion ever beat Darkseid was in Countdown because it was his destiny.

One of the fights yes the one inside the source wall, and Darkseid lost on purpose which i did mention.

Second one where he loses his mother box, you can see lightning sparking around him and he beats Darkseid in 4 panels, scans posted by Beatboks1, i think.

And then Countdown.

#24 Posted by Sci_Fi_Rulez (1059 posts) - - Show Bio

in the infinite wars didn't Thanos look at a other mutant and it blew up to pieces?

#25 Posted by Killemall (18183 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

in the infinite wars didn't Thanos look at a other mutant and it blew up to pieces?

Well thats his powers lol. He has done that to death's minions before as well (although i do not current remember which instance you are referring to).

#26 Edited by XImpossibruX (5154 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

Thanos as always proven to be Darkseids greater and Orion has 1 shotted Superman before.

#27 Posted by usmuscle (109 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos>= Dark Jobber and Orion is at least = to Superman. Team Thanos/Orion ftw

#28 Posted by GunGunW (996 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty sure Superman would beat Orion, on the other hand, Thanos vs. Darkseid is a good one.

#29 Edited by Sci_Fi_Rulez (1059 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

in the infinite wars didn't Thanos look at a other mutant and it blew up to pieces?

Well thats his powers lol. He has done that to death's minions before as well (although i do not current remember which instance you are referring to).

here's the images

he can just do this to sups and darkseid

#30 Posted by Killemall (18183 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

here's the images

he can just do this to sups and darkseid

Thats not from Infinity Wars, thats from Thanos Quest 02 and he had the infinity Gauntlet when he did so. With the infinity gauntlet he could do that to even Supes and Darkseid i would assume, without that its hard to say.

#31 Posted by Sci_Fi_Rulez (1059 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

here's the images

he can just do this to sups and darkseid

Thats not from Infinity Wars, thats from Thanos Quest 02 and he had the infinity Gauntlet when he did so. With the infinity gauntlet he could do that to even Supes and Darkseid i would assume, without that its hard to say.

Mmm then its a tough call then cos i thought he didn't?..idk

#32 Posted by Killemall (18183 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

Mmm then its a tough call then cos i thought he didn't?..idk

Haha in the second page (that you have posted) Thanos says " i could have forced her (lady death) to speak directly to me, i could have bend her will" how did you manage to miss that :p and the very next page you see Thanos crying saying i never realised being a god would be such a hollow victory. :)

However i think Thanos is still pretty powerful. Just check the link below

http://www.comicvine.com/thanos/29-7607/thanos-chronology-fights/92-693595/?page=1#div_shout_post_8151508

That link has every Thanos fight without an amp such as cosmic cube, infinity gauntlet and heart of the universe. Most specifically check out point no 28 on the first page, perhaps his best feat, where he kills a baby abstract and the said blast makes the whole universe scream.

Hope it helps.

#33 Posted by Sci_Fi_Rulez (1059 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

Mmm then its a tough call then cos i thought he didn't?..idk

Haha in the second page (that you have posted) Thanos says " i could have forced her (lady death) to speak directly to me, i could have bend her will" how did you manage to miss that :p and the very next page you see Thanos crying saying i never realised being a god would be such a hollow victory. :)

However i think Thanos is still pretty powerful. Just check the link below

http://www.comicvine.com/thanos/29-7607/thanos-chronology-fights/92-693595/?page=1#div_shout_post_8151508

That link has every Thanos fight without an amp such as cosmic cube, infinity gauntlet and heart of the universe. Most specifically check out point no 28 on the first page, perhaps his best feat, where he kills a baby abstract and the said blast makes the whole universe scream.

Hope it helps.

i was at barnes & nobles and i only got to this page cos i had to leave but like i said tough call

#34 Posted by Freefa11 (2335 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@tuananhxu99001 said:

Probably team 1 cause Orion has beaten Darkseid before (right?), and Thanos can beat Superman like he beated Silver Surfer

Orion has beaten Darkseid three times now, and the morals off gives him the opportunity to take off his mother box, making him berserk, last time that happened he dispatched with Darkseid pretty easily (4 panels), one fight Darkseid lost because he wanted to lose (plot reason), and the latest one comes from Countdown to Final Crisis 1.

Are you referring to New Gods v1 12? I'm not sure if I would really call that a "win," although Orion did look to have the upper hand, and Darkseid certainly looked scared of him. I also don't remember it saying anything about him going berserk due to removing Mother Box, but maybe I just forgot or didn't notice.

To be honest, I always felt that scene was a bit out of character for Darkseid, which is odd, given that it was straight from Kirby. I don't have a big problem with Orion being able to take DS on a good day, but there's something peculiar about Darkseid relying on his cronies for help. But maybe he was just really that scared. Guess we'll never know exactly what Kirby was thinking.

I like the way you are thinking, but wouldnt moral off Orion simply be able to take off his mother box ? Also Thanos has put up shields i dont see Superman going through them, Thanos also has multiple counts of telepathy, with the latest coming from Avengers Assemble 04 where he mind-controlled Hulk to fight Avengers, he might be able to do the same.
So a little off the discussion, i dont think Orion is slow though, i know he doesnt have quantifiable reaction time so to speak but he has never looked slow and i cant remember him ever being blitz.

Orion has shown he can keep up with Superman on at least 4 or 5 occasions. I don't know if I've ever seen him fly about quite as nimbly as Superman has at times, but he should still be fast enough and good enough to avoid getting blitzed completely. He also did some blitzing of his own during Simonson's run, although you're right in that it's not quantified.

I give it to team 1 myself. I think Thanos' durability will give him a majority over Darkseid, and Orion either beats or stalemates Superman (yes, Orion is tough as hell, and proper use of the Astroforce would be a big benefit, but at the same time, a truly bloodlusted Superman is no joke either).

#35 Posted by Bo88gdan (4393 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 .

#36 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlastCore9 said:

Team 1. Thanos and Darkseid fight, Orion beats Superman than helps Thanos beat Seid

#37 Posted by Killemall (18183 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@BlastCore9 said:

Team 1. Thanos and Darkseid fight, Orion beats Superman than helps Thanos beat Seid

#38 Posted by beatboks1 (6958 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@BlastCore9 said:

Team 1. Thanos and Darkseid fight, Orion beats Superman than helps Thanos beat Seid

This. A blood lusted Orion is a lot more than a blood lusted Superman. They don't call him the dog of war, and wrath of the source for nothing.

#39 Posted by Godangwickenwang (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

Team 1.

Thanos as always proven to be Darkseids greater and Orion has 1 shotted Superman before.

Really? Because I'm pretty sure that Darkseid has beaten a great amount of high tier opponents than Thanos has. Of course I don't think Thanos is weaker or vastly outclassed but there isn't anything to suggest he's superior either, maybe in some regards like telepathy and durability but he's outclassed in energy and matter manipuation and strength.

@usmuscle said:

Thanos>= Dark Jobber and Orion is at least = to Superman. Team Thanos/Orion ftw

Who is Dark Jobber? If you're referring to the idea of Darkseid being a jobber keep in mind none of his lowest showings are as bad as getting a squirrel shoved up your rectal area.

#40 Posted by usmuscle (109 posts) - - Show Bio

You realize squirrel girl beats everyone?? And that was a thanos robot or clone iirc

#41 Posted by Godangwickenwang (6 posts) - - Show Bio

@usmuscle said:

You realize squirrel girl beats everyone?? And that was a thanos robot or clone iirc

You realize Squirel Girl lost to Wolverine in a sparring match in New Avengers right?

It was a clone but it was an exact clone of Thanos, down to the last detail. So essentially Squirrel Girl beat Thanos

#42 Posted by Killemall (18183 posts) - - Show Bio

@Godangwickenwang said:

You realize Squirel Girl lost to Wolverine in a sparring match in New Avengers right?

No she did not, what the heck are you talking about. She stomped him assuming you are talking about Fear Itself. So post scans plz.

It was a clone but it was an exact clone of Thanos, down to the last detail. So essentially Squirrel Girl beat Thanos

And where does it say it was essential as powerful as Thanos. All it was mentioned in She Hulk Volume 2, Issue 13 (feefa has posted the scans as promised) that Thanos had a clone that could fool even the cosmic of the beings. Not to mention it was an obvious joke, and the fight took place off panel and its from Great Lake X-mas special. You attempt to low ball thanos with absolutely no proof is getting too old now Dex. Thats after you have been corrected on this like what 5th time?

#43 Edited by Godawankoff (3 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@Godangwickenwang said:

You realize Squirel Girl lost to Wolverine in a sparring match in New Avengers right?

No she did not, what the heck are you talking about. She stomped him assuming you are talking about Fear Itself. So post scans plz.

Yeah, she did. Wolverine wasn't even trying and he ended up getting her into an arm bar until she called a large group of squirrels to help her, as if they were going to do something.

@Killemall said:

And where does it say it was essential as powerful as Thanos. All it was mentioned in She Hulk Volume 2, Issue 13 (feefa has posted the scans as promised) that Thanos had a clone that could fool even the cosmic of the beings. Not to mention it was an obvious joke, and the fight took place off panel and its from Great Lake X-mas special.

It stated that everything down to the last neuron and synapse was an exact replicate of the real Thanos. I don't care if it was a joke either, it's canon. The only thing you can say "omg it's teh christmas special" weren't you already told that Holidays specials can be canon ei Star Wars holiday Special?

ou attempt to low ball thanos with absolutely no proof is getting too old now Dex. Thats after you have been corrected on this like what 5th time?

Maybe, although I've provided plenty of proof, but it's no where near as old as you and freefa riding the character around like a Pony.

And really the only time I bring up Squirrel Girl is when this Jobbersied nonsense comes up. Ohter than that I have't lowballed the character in the least.

#44 Posted by Killemall (18183 posts) - - Show Bio

@Godawankoff said:

Yeah, she did. Wolverine wasn't even trying and he ended up getting her into an arm bar until she called a large group of squirrels to help her, as if they were going to do something.

Scans plz coz the way i remember it, Wolverine was sh*t scared after the fight. And you have a tendency to low ball, or mis-represent what happened in a fight to make a case, just like you did with Thanos vs Thor in the other thread to say Thor = Thanos, which we all know (including you despite you would not agree to it) that is far far far far far away from being true.

It stated that everything down to the last neuron and synapse was an exact replicate of the real Thanos. I don't care if it was a joke either, it's canon. The only thing you can say "omg it's teh christmas special" weren't you already told that Holidays specials can be canon ei Star Wars holiday Special?

Any proof its cannon? coz you say its cannon as if anything happened in the story that was taken into the story.

And the bolded part what are you talking about?

Also stop playing coy, its not thanos it was a Thanoside, stated on panel.

You can try and mis-represent fact all you want, you aint fooling anybody.

Fact = christmas special, joke, fight off panel, retconned - summarised as : if you wanna take that seriously you are biased!.

Maybe, although I've provided plenty of proof, but it's no where near as old as you and freefa riding the character around like a Pony.

What proof have you provided? Squarrel girl beating Thanos in a christmas special in a comic which was meant to be a joke, well done.

Contrary to what you think, i try my best at not being bias. I like Thanos way way more than i like Darkseid. But if i wanted i can misrepresent feats too, Thanos fought and beat Drax the destroyer, and the said fight destroyed an entire planet , when has Darkseid done that? Note Thanos has got 3 power ups after that. Thanos killed an abstract being and made the universe scream, when has Darkseid done that. Note, that got 1 power boost after that. I could just play around these two so say Thanos is more powerful, thats not the case. Consistent showings show Darkseid has better feats and i acknowledge him being more powerful, you are just being blatantly bias and lowballing characters for no apparent reason.

#45 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2817 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

#46 Posted by lol (3917 posts) - - Show Bio

Orion beat Darkseid as always and Thanos one shot Superman, then Thanos kills Orion because he can

#47 Edited by lol (3917 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes team 1 easy