Terry McGinnis vs. Jason Todd vs. Tim Drake vs. Dick G vs DamianW

Dick Grayson

@god_spawn said:

@Rick_Grayson said:

Dick > Tim > Damien > Jason > Terry

Huh?

Are you asking what i mean or disagreeing with me and implying i'm too stupid to understand?

Terry has this. He's comparable to Dick and Jason in terms of skill, and has the suit, too.

@Rick_Grayson: I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm curious as how you came to that conclusion?

Grayson, then Terry, then Jason, then Tim, then Damian

Possibly, Tim could beat Jason, or Terry.

@Rick_Grayson: I agree with Dick winning this but I see no reason why Tim and Damian would beat Jason. He's already more skilled than both, he's beaten Tim twice and the only reason Damian did "well against him" was fighting a Jason who didn't want to fight back, was tired and got jumped by Damian in the first place and Damian just ran away. I don't know where Terry stands cause I agree, his lack of skill and stats of the suit is often overcome by superior skilled opponents and I think Jason and Dick would beat him but I'm unsure if Tim and Damian could.

I agree with the outcome just the placement of certain people in your greater than less than chain, I don't.

@Rick_Grayson: Dick>Jason> then toss up between Terry and Tim>Damian.

@Rick_Grayson: Dick>Jason> then toss up between Terry and Tim>Damian.

Comes down between Dick, Terry, and Tim

jason todd ftw

i give it to Jason, in a rough battle, but all of his Assassin Training should come in handy in this Bloodlusted Setting, other than that i see Nightwing and Terry being his problem, so its either the Jason vs Nightwing(if not already dealt with) in the end or Jason vs Terry

Terry because of suit. In terms of skills Tim>dick>jason>terry then damian

However, skill doesn't mean everything. Tim may be more skilled than Jason, but Jason beats him every time. Damian has arguably the best technical skill, but he's outmatched because of size.

Terry easily. Has enhanced stats because of the suit and more gadgets.

Batgirl beats them all while naked

Terry in the suit has stats that are above street level. It gives him too much of an advantage over the rest.

terry or dick

Dick!

He's perfectly within street level range. The only thing arguable out of that is durability, but one his durability is incredibly inconsistent, and there are street levelers that have taken more damage than he has on a consistent basis.

I was going to argue that the suit amplified his strength to the 1 ton range but when I looked it up the world record for most weight ever lifted is in the 3 ton range, so yea, I guess you're right. He's still peak human and not superhuman.

I still think the stat advantage gives him the win though.

@cyberzombie_hatchetman: You can be considered street level and have superhuman stats.

@god_spawn: Yea, I guess you're right. Daredevil is street level and has superhuman stats. Then there's guys like Deathstroke who have stats slightly above peak human who are defiantly not street level. When you regularly bust up the Titans and take down the Justice League you're not a street leveller.

So what's the criteria that separates street level from lower mid tier?

Dick>Jason>Tim>=Terry>Damian

1) Terry

2) Jason

3) Tim

4)Dick

5)Damian(annoying brat)

1.Terry

2.Dick

3.Jason

4.Tim

5.Damian

Very interesting fight here. Terry has beaten his universe joker (Tim Drake)

Damian with extra weapons would include sword? Damian is the one that was born a weapon from his mother.Dick has gone against a robot with all the members of the JL and won in Grayson. Idk about feats of Tim from the new 52 but he went against Jason and they was pretty stalemated. Jasons stand against Bruce in under the red hood was pretty outstanding and crafty. I belive Terry would have the least amount of training i believe, was he ever trained like the others?

No, but his suits' tech is designed to make up for it. It was meant to help an aging Bruce Wayne, who wasn't as good as he used to be. I think the suit makes him faster, certainly stronger, and possibly more agile. I believe he's been trained by both Bruce as a Detective and possibly Dick Grayson.

But he's typically a brawler, who has flashes of brilliance and insight. Where Bruce needed prep, Terry simply needs time to analyze his opponents. He's smarter than he lets on as well, so that helps. If anything, he's likely to be underestimated by everyone here, which could play to his advantage. With Dick, Drake, and Damian, since they're more likely to get in close, but with a gun-toting Jason, he doesn't have as much leeway.

I'd argue he could take it with some luck, for the majority.

@scouterv: I would argue that Terry isn't a killer. And ina random fight or encounter he would go against Redhood and idk maybe Redhood would give hima run for his money. I could see Terry running to regroup but idk. Then it would be a triple threat between Tim,Dick, and Damian.

Not Jason.