Terrax and Mongul vs Team

Terrax & Mongul

Team

Gallery

Wonder Man, Carol Danvers, Iron-Man, Ragnarok, Ikaris, A-Bomb, Warmachine, Badrock

Location

Rules

No BFR

No PIS

No Prep

Standard Gear

Mongul and Terrax are aware of who each combatant is

Ironman is in Black and Gold armor

war machine is in initiative armor

Mongul Jr. (no rings)

They start 50 feet apart

Victory by KO, Incapacitation, or Death

@warlordeternal: Is this Herald Terrax?

@ordinaryalan: ...Yes. Is there a version I'm unaware of?

Mongul and Terrax pretty easily really, Wonderman is the only issue.

Team

@man_of_miracles: Agreed.

@warlordeternal: Well Terrax hasn't always been a herald. I was just basically asking if he had the power cosmic for this fight.

@apocalypse3: @man_of_miracles: should I add one or two more combatants?

@highaccuser: Not trying to say you're wrong but how do they win?

Yeah that would probably help. Or replace team members with more powerful members, either way.

@man_of_miracles: I'll see what I can do.

Iron Man can beat Terrax alone. He's done so before. Mongul isn't beating all of them.

Coolio

And you don't think that maybe, just maybe that was PIS? considering the fact that Terrax is a plant buster? and the fact that he has black hole level durability? or that he has fought numerous people far above Iron Man's level?

@highaccuser: That's almost as valid as Spiderman beating Firelord. Mongul is strong enough to deal with team except for Wonder Man IMO.

Wonder-Man and Mrs.Marvel are the major problems. Iron Man could be a wildcard depending upon what kind of heat he's packing.

Agreed.

Updated

Okay now I'd say team can win.

Sweet, with the numbers and versatility on the Team it would be really interesting, I think in the end it comes down to how smart the team plays it and how bad Terrax and Mongul mess it up.

I will say the team can take it if they use there heavy hitters to engage directly while using their air and energy output advantages.

That's what I'm thinking. Wonder Man, Thor, Ikaris and possibly A-Bomb should be enough to put down Mongul if they all fight him at once. The rest with their versatility can stall and possibly take down Terrax.

Terrax can only destroy planets because they're made of rock and he's a geokinetic. Terrax is a huge jobber and based on his average showings him losing to Iron Man is acceptable.

Not really. Firelord doesn't job the way Terrax does.

I would agree with that and I think the team has a range and flight advantage that will give the a chance to last longer while dishing out good damage.

I agree.

Yeah so what? He can use his geokinetic powers here as well. Also did you ignore the fact that he has blackhole level durability? and that he has consistently fought people over the level of Iron man?

And no, as big of a jobber as Terrax is a Herald losing to Iron Man will always be PIS. Name any other characters of Iron Man's level that Terrax has lost to.

@man_of_miracles: the point is that iron man isn't made of earth so terrax busting planets doesn't mean anything against him. Surviving a black hole isn't something I take seriously considering he was stomped by a group of people who were pretty much fodder to silver surfer.

He lost to the seekers as I mentioned above. He lost to thing. He lost to the new warriors. Fighting people above iron man is something terrax has few and far between instances of doing.

And yet Terrax has matched SS on several occasions and has traded blows with Morg who was amped by the Waters of Life. He has also survived being attacked by Tyrant.

And I am looking at his fight with the New Warriors right now and he fought them and Fantastic Four at the same time(they had 11 people fighting him) and they had special weapons(energy dampeners specifically made to weaken Terrax) and he was still giving it to them for a few pages. So that is not nearly as bad as you presented it.

Here is a link to the fight: http://imgur.com/a/TpAqY#2

Team 1 wins with easy

Yes he is, so, so badly.

Like I know he has some crappy showings (the one with Sentry is just awful) but he also has some excellent ones, and most of his defeats have context surrounding them.

Well not since we have seen what Sentry is capable of, but that was before he showed that, so at the time it was bad.

Totally agree with that.

Bump

who's badrock?

@masterkungfu: Image character

http://www.comicvine.com/badrock/4005-5187/

@warlordeternal: well then, this guy might solo, that is if he's stronger than mongul

If you wanna get technical about it, he's not even close. At least based on my knowledge of him.

@warlordeternal: yeah, i kinda though so too. supes is at least 1000000 ton base range capacity and mongul is much stronger than him, therefore mongul should be stronger than badrock.

@masterkungfu: Technically Mongul Jr is weaker then Superman. This is because after Jr trained Superman, he (superman) unlocked his hidden potential. This by no means makes Mongul weak as he still has enough strength to fight him and even defeat Wonder Woman. It's pretty much like this:

Superman (unlocked potential) > Mongul > Wonder Woman >/= Post-Death Superman

To my knowledge.

@sophia89 said:

@man_of_miracles said:

@sophia89 said:

@man_of_miracles said:

@sophia89 said:

And yet Terrax has matched SS on several occasions and has traded blows with Morg who was amped by the Waters of Life. He has also survived being attacked by Tyrant.

And I am looking at his fight with the New Warriors right now and he fought them and Fantastic Four at the same time(they had 11 people fighting him) and they had special weapons(energy dampeners specifically made to weaken Terrax) and he was still giving it to them for a few pages. So that is not nearly as bad as you presented it.

Here is a link to the fight: http://imgur.com/a/TpAqY#2

Dude Terrax is one of those guys that is always underestimated on CV.

Yes he is, so, so badly.

Like I know he has some crappy showings (the one with Sentry is just awful) but he also has some excellent ones, and most of his defeats have context surrounding them.

Well the sentry one is not that bad considering Sentry's power levels. But yeah he has some great feats that puts him as a powerhouse at-least.

Well not since we have seen what Sentry is capable of, but that was before he showed that, so at the time it was bad.

Totally agree with that.

Before he beat Terrax,he had Classic SSDR Strange say the void(himself)is a universal threat,had Spiderman say he stalemated Galactus,and as the void he was stomping the avengers(Thor was in it),and later stomp every hero on the planet.

Paul Jenkins created Sentry to be more powerful than Thor and Silver Surfer:

Hey look totally true. But, still, stopping a planet busters blow with one hand is pretty absurd. I get it was to make look Sentry look good, but damn does it make Terrax look weak.

@warlordeternal: Now its a fight.

@apocalypse3: Thanks.

@apocalypse3: Any idea who takes it?

@warlordeternal: Kirby solos.

@realitywarper: I'm probably just being stupid, but is there a joke that I'm not getting?

Isn't Ikarus almost impossible to put down with energy blasts way above Cyclops?

I don't recall him being impossible?...Then again I haven't read a lot of books with him in it.