Terminator T-800 vs. Xenomorph

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#101  Edited By jashro44

@You_Know_Better said:

@jashro44 said:

@eggbuster:How do you always know that a terminator thread has been made?

my cpu gets alleted and then i check it out and make a new account...ehhh

Does is do it for other sites or just this one?

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#102  Edited By DTFB

@You_Know_Better: wasnt that at the END of the movie. and there all the same just different model numbers.

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#103  Edited By Pokergeist
@DTFB said:


                   

@You_Know_Better: wasnt that at the END of the movie. and there all the same just different model numbers.



                   

               

Yes. All the Terminators of the 800 Series with Slight Differences. Example T800 (Termiantor) had a slower and Less Interactive AI. When the movie End the Black Guy found the T-800 AI chip and made a better one. Thus we have thhe T-850 (Terminator 2 and 3) Smarter AI that learn and process way faster.
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#104  Edited By DTFB

@CadenceV2: True but T-1000 and T-X where still the more advance over T-800 & 850.

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#105  Edited By theicon

@nick_hero22: vasques in the movie Aliens used a hand gun to the head of a alien and killed it

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#106  Edited By nick_hero22

@CadenceV2 said:

@nick_hero22 said:

This thread just got trolled

Sigh.... It has.... But I see your points... hope ya saw mine..... Agree to disagree. :) Good Game.

Yes I can understand where your coming from

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#107  Edited By nick_hero22

@theicon said:

@nick_hero22: vasques in the movie Aliens used a hand gun to the head of a alien and killed it

Did the handgun have armor piercing capabilities?

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#108  Edited By Pokergeist
@nick_hero22 said:



                   

@theicon said:

@nick_hero22: vasques in the movie Aliens used a hand gun to the head of a alien and killed it

Did the handgun have armor piercing capabilities?



                   

               

I know in Military now, AP ammo is not Standard and hard to come by. They were Cannon Fodder Grunts for the Company, so I doubt they been hended AP for there Pistols when there Pulse Rifles were AP Explosive Tips. Also they looked to be 9MM at that.  
 
In AvPR Aliens were killed by M-16s from National Guard and I know for a FACT they dont have AP rounds at all. 
 
Edit Vasquez gun was different from the Officers and Black Guy (that had Magazine duty) Hand Guns. Hers was a .45.
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#109  Edited By ComicStooge

@CadenceV2: Those movies (AVP/AVP:R) were bull anyway. I can't believe your using them as evidence.

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#110  Edited By Mooty_Pass

@nick_hero22: you know whats funny I never could get what a troll is now I think I do thanks for pointing out what a troll is.

As for the debate I understand what your saying and what CadenceV2 is saying, but I kinda see the terminator casue from what knowledge I know some of is that there h2h really kinda sucks, but there fighting a robot.

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#111  Edited By Pokergeist
@ComicStooge said:



                   

@CadenceV2: Those movies (AVP/AVP:R) were bull anyway. I can't believe your using them as evidence.



                   

               

Edit: Im sry I thought you were talking Terminators Movies. AvP is BS but still there.
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#112  Edited By ComicStooge

@CadenceV2: A movie made by talentless hacks who don't understand what the Alien is capable of made them a regular canon fodder movie monster.

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#113  Edited By Pokergeist
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Sucks but Still Showings. Even in Alien Ressurection (all cannon) the Aliens are taken out by Pistols. Maybe AP rounds? Ap rounds wont take out Hyper Alloy still. The Hydralic Fist that crushes Engine Blocks will.
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#114  Edited By ComicStooge

@CadenceV2: Durability and strength aren't the only things that matter in a fight, you know.

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#115  Edited By theicon

@nick_hero22: it was a standard Colonial marine pistol the pulse rifles had armor piercing tip caslets, they didnt say hand guns did but it cud be assumed .

Now gorman fired at a Xenomorph at lil distance and the bullets bounced away, but when Vasques fired close range one got killed though she got hurt

Im still going with the Terminator it will rip the alien in half and the acid that burst out wont be enough to melt the T-800 it would half to be dipped in acid to cause serious damage.

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#116  Edited By Pokergeist
@ComicStooge said:



                   

@CadenceV2: Durability and strength aren't the only things that matter in a fight, you know.



                   

               

I know, Unfortunatly I never seen a Xenomorph Ninja Dance around any oppontet... ever. They charge and Claw and Stab and Bite. No fighting Skill. Terminator is a Super Advance AI that can process faster than that Alien can think and 1-2 Hydralic Punches end the fight. 
 
Fighting Skill  T-800 > Xeno
Inteligence    T-800 > Xeno 
Durability       T-800 > Xeno 
Strength         T-800 > Xeno 
Agilty              T-800 < Xeno 
Speed            T-800 < Xeno 
Weapons       T-800 = Xeno  
 
Seriously T-800 Skill and Inteligence. It will know hwat to do. The Alien is Instict. T-800 can survive more Damge than a single Xeno ever Shown. It can do more Damage than a Xeno Ever Shown. Minus the Queen of Course. 
 
So Speed and Agility is not playing a huge role here.
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#117  Edited By ComicStooge

@CadenceV2: Xeno's are far more intelligent then T-800's. They aren't dumb enough to get trapped under a hydrolic press, unlike the Terminator in T1.

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#118  Edited By Pokergeist
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Your kidding me right? They are so smart to run into Gunfire all the time. The one in Alien was smart enough to get blasted out of the Air Locker and then crawl into the Thruste!?!?! Really the Hot Thing of Fiery death Alien?!?!? 
 
That why Aliens are killed by the Handfulls by Ripley plundering in the darkness..... 
 
Sry aint buying it.
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#119  Edited By ComicStooge

@CadenceV2: That Alien lacked intelligence because it came from a dog The picture is clearly of a regular human breed Alien.

The one in Alien was able to avoid a bunch of traps set by the crew but eventually got careless near the end of the movie.

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#120  Edited By Mooty_Pass

@ComicStooge said:

@CadenceV2: Xeno's are far more intelligent then T-800's. They aren't dumb enough to get trapped under a hydrolic press, unlike the Terminator in T1.

Yea your right they are intelligent and so is the T-800 though I do belive a xeno would fall for an entrapment.

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#121  Edited By Pokergeist
@CadenceV2 said:


 
  
    
   
Terminator Surves Explosion in weak spot and last a few seconds in the Steel Compactor after being Blown in Half from Nitris... 
 
  
   
Terminator gets hit with 9mm, 12 Guage, .44s, and 5.56 all day without stopping.... 
 
  
   
  
   
  
  
He fights in H2H well against a stronger fster opponet that cant be killed in H2H. T-850 Kept coming, getting back up. 
 
  
   
Again T-850 vs a Superior stonger and tougher TX while Sustaining MASSIVE DAMAGE! 
 
  


                    

               


Look at this, No Alien ever shown the Forthought, Taitcs, or Skill much less Durabilty or Strength.
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#122  Edited By ComicStooge

@stormphoenix: Does the T-800 even set traps?

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#123  Edited By Mooty_Pass

@ComicStooge: I belive so I have not seen the terminators movie in a long time I have to go back and see them again, but yea i think so. Also I understand what your coming from they wouldnt fall for it and your right they wouldnt, but some would. In the movies I noticed there were like the smart ones and then the dumb ones who got there heads blown up.

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#124  Edited By Pokergeist

Terminator set many Traps. T-1000 had the same Programs as T-800. T-800 knew every omve and trap T-1000 would set cause thats what he would do. In Terminator 1 the dumber T-800 figured how to hunt down targets via Phonebook and then trick Sarah by posing as her mother cause he KNEW she would contact her. Terminators are Advance AIs what are you getting there dumb machines?
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#125  Edited By Pokergeist

  

  Soooo Inteligent, lets throw a hundred Aliens and see if we can get thru the Boom Boom Sticks...... 
 

  
   
Wow lets just sit there and get blown out of the Air Lock then crawl into the Thruster. Way to go real genious.
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#127  Edited By nick_hero22

Aliens: Colonial Marines (Canon)

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#128  Edited By Pokergeist
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God I been waiting for that game forever.  
 
Still Emphasis how a Alien in CC with a Colonial Marines gets spank in CC from a Shotgun Blast. All that Acid didnt seem to hurt him either LOL.
 
 
However I take the Power Loader over T-800 anyday.
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#129  Edited By nick_hero22

@CadenceV2 said:

@nick_hero22: God I been waiting for that game forever. Still Emphasis how a Alien in CC with a Colonial Marines gets spank in CC from a Shotgun Blast. All that Acid didnt seem to hurt him either LOL. However I take the Power Loader over T-800 anyday.

I can't wait for it to come out either, I need to update my graphics card before then though.

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#130  Edited By Pokergeist
@nick_hero22 said:


                   

@CadenceV2 said:

@nick_hero22: God I been waiting for that game forever. Still Emphasis how a Alien in CC with a Colonial Marines gets spank in CC from a Shotgun Blast. All that Acid didnt seem to hurt him either LOL. However I take the Power Loader over T-800 anyday.

I can't wait for it to come out either, I need to update my graphics card before then though.



                   

               


Ahhh Sad Panda... me too. Im running 260s Slyed together.... I need at least a 580 Nvidia. Damnit.
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#131  Edited By soundgarden

@DTFB said:

@CadenceV2: True but T-1000 and T-X where still the more advance over T-800 & 850.

T-1000 was the most advanced. T-X was hardly more advanced than the T-800 & T-850 series...

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#132  Edited By soundgarden

@ComicStooge said:

@CadenceV2: Xeno's are far more intelligent then T-800's. They aren't dumb enough to get trapped under a hydrolic press, unlike the Terminator in T1.

right like xeno has the strength to get out of a hydrolic press when he gets crushed...LOL ok... TERMINATOR just has to shove his metal fist clean through xenos chest and take his heart out and hes dead.

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#133  Edited By SavageDragon

The Terminator will win or it will be a draw, T-800s are too strong, smart, and DURABLE. I dont think acid will melt through their armor immediately and will take time. During that time the Terminator destroys the Alien.

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#134  Edited By Picard

@nick_hero22 said:

@Picard said:

@ComicStooge said:

@Picard: The Xeno's blood can burn through the metal of Predator claw, which is far stronger then any earth metal.

Metal used by Predators can cut through titanium? Any evidence to support that cliam?

Xenomorph can tear Synthetics in half and their skeletal structure is composed of carbon fiber and they are capable of tearing through inches of reinforced metal as well, the Predators Wrist Blades have been shown to be able to effortless shredd through the hull of a tank with 2 inches of steel plating like butter.

This is no answer. I asked did: Alien acid blood melted tytanium? You talking about synthetics - they are not Terminator. In fact Parker and Lamberd killed Ash withouth much problem. You talking about Predatrors vs. tanks - are those tanks were made from tytanium? If not, then I don't know why you even brought this up...

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#135  Edited By Pokergeist
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Truth is Titanium dont matter either as in T3 and Sub materiel refers the Metal in T-800 series as a Hyper Alloy. So Considering the Damge and Feats I posted 20 times already I belive its more Durable than mere High Grade Titanium.
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#136  Edited By nick_hero22

@Picard said:

@nick_hero22 said:

@Picard said:

@ComicStooge said:

@Picard: The Xeno's blood can burn through the metal of Predator claw, which is far stronger then any earth metal.

Metal used by Predators can cut through titanium? Any evidence to support that cliam?

Xenomorph can tear Synthetics in half and their skeletal structure is composed of carbon fiber and they are capable of tearing through inches of reinforced metal as well, the Predators Wrist Blades have been shown to be able to effortless shredd through the hull of a tank with 2 inches of steel plating like butter.

This is no answer. I asked did: Alien acid blood melted tytanium? You talking about synthetics - they are not Terminator. In fact Parker and Lamberd killed Ash withouth much problem. You talking about Predatrors vs. tanks - are those tanks were made from tytanium? If not, then I don't know why you even brought this up...

The Xenomorphs blood was shown to be able to melt several metal floors and melt the Predator's weapon and gear if they are untreated, I'm fully aware that Terminators aren't Synthetics I was referencing the Xenomorphs strength with that comment, and steel is 5% stronger than titanium and I'm sure under that layer of 2 inches of steel plating their are other metals as well.

http://www.differencebetween.net/object/difference-between-steel-and-titanium/

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#137  Edited By Pokergeist
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Huh Learn something new everyday.
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#138  Edited By Devils_Prey1

Nick doesnt kno wwtf hes talking about xenos blood melted through metal floors and predators metal which have unknown metal type to describe and the links he posts doesnt prove what kind of metal it is... so its unknown if its as strong a titanium or not.

Either way TERMINATOR stomps!!!

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#139  Edited By Devils_Prey1

Nick doesnt kno wwtf hes talking about xenos blood melted through metal floors and predators metal which have unknown metal type to describe and the links he posts doesnt prove what kind of metal it is... so its unknown if its as strong a titanium or not.

Either way TERMINATOR stomps!!!

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#140  Edited By DTFB

@soundgarden: Im guessing you havnt seen T3 in a while

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#141  Edited By Devils_Prey1

@DTFB said:

@soundgarden: Im guessing you havnt seen T3 in a while

Dude the T-X lost her legs from being hit by a helicopter and had to rip her leggs off because she couldnt use her superstrength to lift the rocks off of her legs...THE T-800 would of used his strength and lifted those rocks off its legs so the T-X is infact weaker than a T-800

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#142  Edited By DTFB

@Devils_Prey1: Just go watch the movie and listen to the whole blah blah blah more advance stronger speech.

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Xenomorph has got this. It has shown great strength near the terminator's and its way more agile, faster, and even if it gets ripped in half (which is unlikely) the acid blood destroys the t-800

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#144  Edited By Deadite

T-800 takes this, even if consider the blood will melt through of T-800's endo, that damage he dealt would be a lethal wound.

Terminator would probably make a firm claw with his hand into the Xenomorph and rips out its inners. Meanwhile T-800's strategic planning wouldn't be affected by the lost of an arm, being a mechanical creation, he wouldn't hesitate to finish the job. Alien will be dragging with its partial inners torn offs and bleeding, trying to escape.

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#145  Edited By Pokergeist
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Just Curious when a Xenomorph showed the Strength to smash Car Engine Blocks or lift 5 times its weight.....
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#146  Edited By Deadite

@CadenceV2 said:

@VercingetorixTheGreat: Just Curious when a Xenomorph showed the Strength to smash Car Engine Blocks or lift 5 times its weight.....

Probably in none canon.

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#147  Edited By Pokergeist
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Im figurine a one time showing in the Dark Horse Comics or a Panel taken out of context at best.
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#148  Edited By Deadite

@CadenceV2 said:

@Deadite: Im figurine a one time showing in the Dark Horse Comics or a Panel taken out of context at best.

Agreed.

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#149  Edited By nickthedevil

Xenomorph. Go ahead and challenge me on it.

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#150  Edited By nefarious

The Xenomorph spits acid in his eyes.