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#1  Edited By ArtsyGal

I need to stop posting so many battles

Battle 1

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Teen Titans
Teen Titans

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Justice League
Justice League

Location

The Watchtower
The Watchtower

Details

Round 1: Morals on, no prep

Round 2: Morals off, one day of prep

Teen Titans can call in Terra if they need help.

No PIS (something that the Titans seem to be huge victims of)

High end feats only

Battle 2

Combatants

Expanded Teen Titans (everyone isn't on this picture, but everyone who fought on the Titans' side in the final battle against the Brotherhood of Evil + Terra are in the team)
Expanded Teen Titans (everyone isn't on this picture, but everyone who fought on the Titans' side in the final battle against the Brotherhood of Evil + Terra are in the team)

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Expanded Justice League (same thing applies here. If they joined the League, then they qualify)
Expanded Justice League (same thing applies here. If they joined the League, then they qualify)

Location

Titans Tower
Titans Tower

Details

Round 1: Morals on, no prep

Round 2: Morals off, one day of prep

No PIS (something that the Titans seem to be huge victims of)

High end feats only

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#2  Edited By emad_ishtiaque

JLA takes both rounds in both battles considering high end feats without help from plot.

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#3  Edited By ArtsyGal

@emad_ishtiaque said:

JLA takes both rounds in both battles considering high end feats without help from plot.

Really? What if Raven had access to her White Raven form?

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#4  Edited By TheGirugamesh

This is the equivalent of putting an army of 10 year-olds against an army of adults. The little leaguers don't stand a chance.

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#5  Edited By ArtsyGal

@girugamesh said:

This is the equivalent of putting an army of 10 year-olds against an army of adults. The little leaguers don't stand a chance.

I'm pretty sure that Starfire has shown more impressive strength feats than Superman and Wonder Woman. And then there's Raven who moved buildings and stopped time in her regular form. Robin has also shown plenty of superhuman feats.

With her White Raven form, Raven effortlessly defeated a planet buster and healed an entire planet. I'm pretty sure that that's a hell of a feat.

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#6  Edited By btmt

@girugamesh said:

This is the equivalent of putting an army of 10 year-olds against an army of adults. The little leaguers don't stand a chance.

Teen Titans also don't have Superboy, Wondergirl and Kid Flash.

Justice League wins Easily.

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#7  Edited By IZZR

Hmm i think Teen Titans take this but John Stewart defeated Despero which was a hell of a feat, not to mention flash running around the world and imp'ing Brainiac Luthor half to death they may stand a chance.

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@btmt:

They have Kid Flash in Round Two.

Justice League still stomps.

White Raven IS a problem but they can speedblitz before that happens.

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#9  Edited By ArtsyGal

@IZZR said:

Hmm i think Teen Titans take this but John Stewart defeated Despero which was a hell of a feat, not to mention flash running around the world and imp'ing Brainiac Luthor half to death they may stand a chance.

Starfire is faster than light, though.

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#10  Edited By hudyman

seriously?? how can you honestly think that a bunch of ten years old can take on the justice league. i mean that is like saying a boxers child can defeat his dad in a fight

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#11  Edited By ArtsyGal

@hudyman: Trigon destroyed the world, White Raven defeated him, and then she revived the entire planet.

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#12  Edited By hudyman

@ArtsyGal: so? if the justice league is bloodlusted, raven is practically useless. i mean they would obviously speed blitz her before she had the chance to do anything. and are you trying to tell me that raven can take on the green lantern bloodlusted??. lol the lantern in the justice league can basically wish to have anything he wants

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#13  Edited By ArtsyGal

@hudyman said:

@ArtsyGal: so? if the justice league is bloodlusted, raven is practically useless. i mean they would obviously speed blitz her before she had the chance to do anything. and are you trying to tell me that raven can take on the green lantern bloodlusted??. lol the lantern in the justice league can basically wish to have anything he wants

I'm not saying the Teen Titans would win. I'm simply stating that they have more of a chance than you think.

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#14  Edited By BlackWind

Starfire is only FTL in travel speed, not combat speed.

The League wins both scenarios.

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#15  Edited By Floopay

Teen Titans for sure in Battle 2. Lets not forget Larry, who I think was a 5th dimensional imp...

Thanks for reading,

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#16  Edited By rpottage

@Floopay said:

Teen Titans for sure in Battle 2. Lets not forget Larry, who I think was a 5th dimensional imp...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Larry wasn't in the final episode; and is easily defeated by a stubbed finger.

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#17  Edited By ComocYahweh

@Floopay said:

Teen Titans for sure in Battle 2. Lets not forget Larry, who I think was a 5th dimensional imp...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

If you could in Larry, then you should also count Mxy and batmite..

Anyways JL wins in curbstomp.

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#18  Edited By ArtsyGal

@BlackWind said:

Starfire is only FTL in travel speed, not combat speed.

The League wins both scenarios.

Speed blitz?

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#19  Edited By Sethlol

JL both rounds but Raven could make it interesting.

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#20  Edited By jeanroygrant

Raven is sure darn powerful. That's got to be one of the best media feats.

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#21  Edited By never give up

Round 1- Batman solos

Round 2- JLA

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#22  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

JL for both rounds, yes, Raven is strong, but many times I've seen her be interrupted before she could finish her spells,  
 
"Azarath, Metrion, zent-" Flash or Superman k.o's her.

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#23  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt

Justice league

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#24  Edited By cameron83

@ArtsyGal said:

@girugamesh said:

This is the equivalent of putting an army of 10 year-olds against an army of adults. The little leaguers don't stand a chance.

I'm pretty sure that Starfire has shown more impressive strength feats than Superman and Wonder Woman. And then there's Raven who moved buildings and stopped time in her regular form. Robin has also shown plenty of superhuman feats.

With her White Raven form, Raven effortlessly defeated a planet buster and healed an entire planet. I'm pretty sure that that's a hell of a feat.

to tell you the truth I think the titans have way more feats....and I am only talking about the main 5 alone

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#25  Edited By PlasticBag

Justice League wins both rounds. They have way to many powerhouses. MM mind rapes most of the Titans then Flash and Supes blitz whatever is rest.

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#26  Edited By Black_Claw

Justice League, no contest.

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#27  Edited By ArtsyGal

@The Stegman said:

JL for both rounds, yes, Raven is strong, but many times I've seen her be interrupted before she could finish her spells, "Azarath, Metrion, zent-" Flash or Superman k.o's her.

Well, the show tended to not show her true power because that would just nullify the requirement of the other Titans. Like, Slade's computers had her stats on a lower level compared to the rest of the team's stats, even though that she's truly much more powerful than the other four. Also, she doesn't require that incantation. It simply helps her concentrate so she can access her stronger abilities.

I'd also like to point out that Raven can stop time. It seems like it's triggered by a strong emotional desire for the current event to stop.

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#28  Edited By BlackWind

Raven to my knowledge cannot access her full power at will.

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#29  Edited By TheGirugamesh

@ArtsyGal said:

@IZZR said:

Hmm i think Teen Titans take this but John Stewart defeated Despero which was a hell of a feat, not to mention flash running around the world and imp'ing Brainiac Luthor half to death they may stand a chance.

Starfire is faster than light, though.

So are several of the people in the league (not even going to go into the detail of how much of a problem the Flash will be).

Robin will be worthless against 90% of the league, and when has Starfire's strength exceeded that of Superman's?

Either way there is nothing to stop them having most of their members blitzed by the league, and anyone left standing will go down very shortly after.

@BlackWind said:

Raven to my knowledge cannot access her full power at will.

Your knowledge is correct, she isn't in the habit of immediately going for her White Raven form.

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#30  Edited By ArtsyGal

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@IZZR said:

Hmm i think Teen Titans take this but John Stewart defeated Despero which was a hell of a feat, not to mention flash running around the world and imp'ing Brainiac Luthor half to death they may stand a chance.

Starfire is faster than light, though.

So are several of the people in the league (not even going to go into the detail of how much of a problem the Flash will be).

Robin will be worthless against 90% of the league, and when has Starfire's strength exceeded that of Superman's?

Either way there is nothing to stop them having most of their members blitzed by the league, and anyone left standing will go down very shortly after.

Starfire pounded the ground with her fists and made the city shake, according to the Teen Titans wiki. Also, they have Kid Flash and Flash tends to move rather slowly in normal situations.

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#31  Edited By TheGirugamesh

@ArtsyGal said:

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@IZZR said:

Hmm i think Teen Titans take this but John Stewart defeated Despero which was a hell of a feat, not to mention flash running around the world and imp'ing Brainiac Luthor half to death they may stand a chance.

Starfire is faster than light, though.

So are several of the people in the league (not even going to go into the detail of how much of a problem the Flash will be).

Robin will be worthless against 90% of the league, and when has Starfire's strength exceeded that of Superman's?

Either way there is nothing to stop them having most of their members blitzed by the league, and anyone left standing will go down very shortly after.

Starfire pounded the ground with her fists and made the city shake, according to the Teen Titans wiki. Also, they have Kid Flash and Flash tends to move rather slowly in normal situations.

Stuff taken from wikis really aren't very reliable, Superman, the GL and Wonderwoman were able to shift the entire earth with their combined power. And Flash>>>kid Flash.

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#32  Edited By ArtsyGal

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@IZZR said:

Hmm i think Teen Titans take this but John Stewart defeated Despero which was a hell of a feat, not to mention flash running around the world and imp'ing Brainiac Luthor half to death they may stand a chance.

Starfire is faster than light, though.

So are several of the people in the league (not even going to go into the detail of how much of a problem the Flash will be).

Robin will be worthless against 90% of the league, and when has Starfire's strength exceeded that of Superman's?

Either way there is nothing to stop them having most of their members blitzed by the league, and anyone left standing will go down very shortly after.

Starfire pounded the ground with her fists and made the city shake, according to the Teen Titans wiki. Also, they have Kid Flash and Flash tends to move rather slowly in normal situations.

Stuff taken from wikis really aren't very reliable, Superman, the GL and Wonderwoman were able to shift the entire earth with their combined power. And Flash>>>kid Flash.

In Justice League (Unlimited)?

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#33  Edited By TheGirugamesh

@ArtsyGal said:

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@IZZR said:

Hmm i think Teen Titans take this but John Stewart defeated Despero which was a hell of a feat, not to mention flash running around the world and imp'ing Brainiac Luthor half to death they may stand a chance.

Starfire is faster than light, though.

So are several of the people in the league (not even going to go into the detail of how much of a problem the Flash will be).

Robin will be worthless against 90% of the league, and when has Starfire's strength exceeded that of Superman's?

Either way there is nothing to stop them having most of their members blitzed by the league, and anyone left standing will go down very shortly after.

Starfire pounded the ground with her fists and made the city shake, according to the Teen Titans wiki. Also, they have Kid Flash and Flash tends to move rather slowly in normal situations.

Stuff taken from wikis really aren't very reliable, Superman, the GL and Wonderwoman were able to shift the entire earth with their combined power. And Flash>>>kid Flash.

In Justice League (Unlimited)?

No, Justice League of America (and sorry, I meant Martian Manhunter, not the lantern):

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#34  Edited By cattlebattle

Its a toss up.
 
The JL was really powered down and had some real, sad, low level feats. I can never really count Flashs' "speed force" and Supermans "cardboard speech" feats due to them being inconsistent fan services.
 
Conversely, the Titans were powered up, insanely to some ends becaus of the cartoonish nature of the show. Robin could take out super strong humans with a kick, Raven could take out anyone potentially and I even remember Cyborg lifting a whole building with ease...thats right...an entire building, It could go either way.

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#35  Edited By ArtsyGal

@cattlebattle said:

Its a toss up. The JL was really powered down and had some real, sad, low level feats. I can never really count Flashs' "speed force" and Supermans "cardboard speech" feats due to them being inconsistent fan services. Conversely, the Titans were powered up, insanely to some ends becaus of the cartoonish nature of the show. Robin could take out super strong humans with a kick, Raven could take out anyone potentially and I even remember Cyborg lifting a whole building with ease...thats right...an entire building, It could go either way.

Wait, if Cyborg can lift a building with ease, then doesn't that mean that Starfire could lift multiple buildings with ease?

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@IZZR said:

Hmm i think Teen Titans take this but John Stewart defeated Despero which was a hell of a feat, not to mention flash running around the world and imp'ing Brainiac Luthor half to death they may stand a chance.

Starfire is faster than light, though.

So are several of the people in the league (not even going to go into the detail of how much of a problem the Flash will be).

Robin will be worthless against 90% of the league, and when has Starfire's strength exceeded that of Superman's?

Either way there is nothing to stop them having most of their members blitzed by the league, and anyone left standing will go down very shortly after.

Starfire pounded the ground with her fists and made the city shake, according to the Teen Titans wiki. Also, they have Kid Flash and Flash tends to move rather slowly in normal situations.

Stuff taken from wikis really aren't very reliable, Superman, the GL and Wonderwoman were able to shift the entire earth with their combined power. And Flash>>>kid Flash.

In Justice League (Unlimited)?

No, Justice League of America (and sorry, I meant Martian Manhunter, not the lantern):

This battle is between the animated versions of the teams. Everything that was shown in the comics is irrelevant.

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#36  Edited By TheGirugamesh

@ArtsyGal said:

@cattlebattle said:

Its a toss up. The JL was really powered down and had some real, sad, low level feats. I can never really count Flashs' "speed force" and Supermans "cardboard speech" feats due to them being inconsistent fan services. Conversely, the Titans were powered up, insanely to some ends becaus of the cartoonish nature of the show. Robin could take out super strong humans with a kick, Raven could take out anyone potentially and I even remember Cyborg lifting a whole building with ease...thats right...an entire building, It could go either way.

Wait, if Cyborg can lift a building with ease, then doesn't that mean that Starfire could lift multiple buildings with ease?

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@girugamesh said:

@ArtsyGal said:

@IZZR said:

Hmm i think Teen Titans take this but John Stewart defeated Despero which was a hell of a feat, not to mention flash running around the world and imp'ing Brainiac Luthor half to death they may stand a chance.

Starfire is faster than light, though.

So are several of the people in the league (not even going to go into the detail of how much of a problem the Flash will be).

Robin will be worthless against 90% of the league, and when has Starfire's strength exceeded that of Superman's?

Either way there is nothing to stop them having most of their members blitzed by the league, and anyone left standing will go down very shortly after.

Starfire pounded the ground with her fists and made the city shake, according to the Teen Titans wiki. Also, they have Kid Flash and Flash tends to move rather slowly in normal situations.

Stuff taken from wikis really aren't very reliable, Superman, the GL and Wonderwoman were able to shift the entire earth with their combined power. And Flash>>>kid Flash.

In Justice League (Unlimited)?

No, Justice League of America (and sorry, I meant Martian Manhunter, not the lantern):

This battle is between the animated versions of the teams. Everything that was shown in the comics is irrelevant.

Well thank you for clearly stating that in the OP, take more care in making battles next time.

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#37  Edited By Killemall

@Floopay said:

Teen Titans for sure in Battle 2. Lets not forget Larry, who I think was a 5th dimensional imp...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Well since everyone is included that would include Golden Amazo in JLA as well, thats a very scary thought.

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#38  Edited By Kellar21

First Scenario

Round one(Morals on)-JL teen titans are street levelers at the most,Supes and Flash blitzes,Batman destroys robin and MMH could neutraliza everyone .

Round 2(Morals OFF)-Speed blitzes and mindrapes coupled with batman snapping necks and throwing C4 at people.

Second Scenario

Round One(Morals On)-Same thing but with more people

Round Two(Morals off) Murderroflmcurbstomp by Dr Fate,Zatanna and Captain Atom desintegrating people.

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#39  Edited By BlackWind

Yes, Cyborg lifted a three story building right iff the ground. However I wouldn't use that to say Starfire could lift multiple buildings. Maybe more than Cyborg, but its reaching too far to say the former.

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#40  Edited By MadeinBangladesh

this is such a mismatch... why isnt this locked?

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#41  Edited By Veitha

@girugamesh said:

This is the equivalent of putting an army of 10 year-olds against an army of adults. The little leaguers don't stand a chance.

Well, if you put an army of 10 years-old Hit Girls against an army of adults, adults won't stand a chance ;)

But you're right, the JLA stomps them.

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#42  Edited By ArtsyGal

@BlackWind said:

Yes, Cyborg lifted a three story building right iff the ground. However I wouldn't use that to say Starfire could lift multiple buildings. Maybe more than Cyborg, but its reaching too far to say the former.

Well, Cyborg struggled to lift this thing, while Starfire lifted something much heavier and larger with little to no effort.@Kellar21 said:

First Scenario

Round one(Morals on)-JL teen titans are street levelers at the most,Supes and Flash blitzes,Batman destroys robin and MMH could neutraliza everyone .

Round 2(Morals OFF)-Speed blitzes and mindrapes coupled with batman snapping necks and throwing C4 at people.

Second Scenario

Round One(Morals On)-Same thing but with more people

Round Two(Morals off) Murderroflmcurbstomp by Dr Fate,Zatanna and Captain Atom desintegrating people.

White Raven's probably on planet busting level (or at least approaching it).

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#43  Edited By Outside_85

@hudyman said:

@ArtsyGal: so? if the justice league is bloodlusted, raven is practically useless. i mean they would obviously speed blitz her before she had the chance to do anything. and are you trying to tell me that raven can take on the green lantern bloodlusted??. lol the lantern in the justice league can basically wish to have anything he wants

I would point out that Steward was notorious even within the JL cartoon GLC in regards to his lack of imagination, which we do see since he sticks to simple shapes when he needs to do something.

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#44  Edited By hudyman

@Outside_85 said:

@hudyman said:

@ArtsyGal: so? if the justice league is bloodlusted, raven is practically useless. i mean they would obviously speed blitz her before she had the chance to do anything. and are you trying to tell me that raven can take on the green lantern bloodlusted??. lol the lantern in the justice league can basically wish to have anything he wants

I would point out that Steward was notorious even within the JL cartoon GLC in regards to his lack of imagination, which we do see since he sticks to simple shapes when he needs to do something.

Still justice league wins......

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if it is the cartoon version then batman solos need i remind everyone red x took down the entire league and this guy was trained by batman cyborg gets a sonic cannon blown um by grenade batterang knockout gas for beastboy electro shock hed roundhouse kick raven before she could react then we have starfire and robin need i say more even if you could argue star could take him then theres still the rest of a well rested league. i mean i can think of about fifteen scenarios for this fight they dont end good for the titans

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High end feats only?

Raven solos with timestop and white raven form. Also let's not forget that Starfire pushed against a spaceship that was capable of propelling itself MFTL and kept it on the ground. Cyborg lifts buildings, Starfire flies MFTL (she was traveling between planets like nothing) and Robin can inexplicably tangle with these people and solo all of them. Robin in TT is = Batma in JL, both can solo their respective teams for reasons unknown, while Starfire's feats actually outweigh Supes and WW's.

In the extended one, Kid Flash was waaaaayy faster than Flash was. He actually used his speed and vibrated through things. Him+Raven+Starfire+Cyborg+Gideon's trumper (Blue Trumpet I think his name is)+Guy who turns into a star+Jericho+Lightning and Thunder make the TT win again unless Amazo or Fate pull out some stops.

If normal feats were used JL would win, but high end, TT's are probably>their comic counterparts even (except Kid Flash).

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Justice league dominates. All the titans did was spend three whole seasons trying to bring down slade, when the JLA bring down a different person every episode that is a lot more powerful than slade like Sinestro or grodd.

Starfire would get taken down by Superman, Martian Manhunter would take down Beast Boy, Batman would take down Robin, and Dr Fate would take down Raven.

And this isn't white raven. This is normal raven who accomplished no feats.

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Justice League

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Teen titans totally win who cares if there are younger they are stronger, they took down the brotherhood of evil and trigon too things that the justice league couldn't do

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JL for both rounds, yes, Raven is strong, but many times I've seen her be interrupted before she could finish her spells,

"Azarath, Metrion, zent-" Flash or Superman k.o's her.