Teen Titans VS Avengers

Team One: Teen Titans

• Robin/Nightwing (Dick Grayson)
• Wonder Girl (Donna Troy)
• Raven (Rachel Roth)
• Cyborg (Victor Stone)
• Starfire (Karl'andre)
• Beast Boy (Garfield Logan)
• EDIT: Superboy (Kon-El)

Post-Crisis

Team Two: Avengers

• Iron Man (Bleeding Edge)
• Thor (Unworthy)
• Ms./Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)
• Cap' Murica!
• Wolverine (Logan)
• Hulk
• Spider-Man (Peter Parker)

Earth-616

General Rules

• Combatants are in character. This means their usual set of morals apply.
• This is a random encounter (no prep for either side) and both sides have standard gear. Both sides have no immediate knowledge of their opponents, either.
• Altercation takes place in a populated Tokyo.
• Incapacitation, knockout, BFR (battlefield removal, a.k.a. knocking the enemy so far away that there's no way the fight could continue in the near future) or death all count as elimination.
• They start 125 meters apart from each other.
• It's been a while since I've read anything about the Teen Titans (barring New-52 Nightwing and Victor) so if this is a mismatch in any way please inform me.
• Have fun and be NICE!

• Robin/Nightwing (Dick Grayson) vs captain america- physically enhanced
• Wonder Girl (Donna Troy) vs captain marvel- more like wonder woman
• Raven (Rachel Roth) vs wolverine- powerhouse
• Cyborg (Victor Stone) vs iron man- feast
• Starfire (Karl'andre) vs thor- no reason
• Beast Boy (Garfield Logan) vs spiderman - can turn into any animal

@vasu12360: Remember, this isn't a 1v1. This is a collective team battle. Plus they have Hulk...

Team 2, unless Cyborg or Raven carries.

Avengers take it.

@vasu12360: why would you put raven vs wolverine

Avengers pretty handily.

One thunderclap from Hulk can kill most of the titans.Avengers clean house

Hulk, Ironman, carol vs starfire, cyborg and raven.

Avengers takes this handily.

Hulk is a liability for the avengers because of Raven.

how strong is thunder clap?

Avengers

Doesnt Unworthy Thor have an unworthy Hammer, black uru arm and such?

@serrure: You're correct.

Raven and Hulk are the X-factors. At her peak Raven should be able to give Titans the win. Cyborg could deal with most of the Avengers outside of Hulk, he would have to BFR him with a boom tube He'd have a lot of trouble with Captain Marvel too.

Starfire and Donna are both capable of matching Captain Marvel that would be a good battle no matter who fought.

Still Hulks a big if, after a while he'd be too much to deal with and Raven or Cyborg can't necessarily deal with him.

Thor's also a threat, but he's not as menacing because he is unworthy. He isn't as versatile without mjolnir. In a slugfest he'd beat any of the Titans, but they wouldn't give him that luxury.

Well, if avengers kill any titan raven solos. Otherwise avengers easily.

Avengers sweep the deck with relative ease.

Those avengers got more powerhouses, and FAR more experience working as a team against bigger foes throughout many decades.

Hulk could indeed be a liability. However if we are using current avengers, doc green might prove harder to subdue. Also ironman has high level mind control counters since Axis event last november.

I say avengers got this.

yeah so unworthy thor is still a pretty big powerhouse then

@serrure: I really didn't want to add Wally West for obvious reason, but what would happen if I added him? Let's say before he officially becomes the Flash, so before Barry dies while Wally is still Kid Flash? What happens if I had Flash West?

@dragonenton: add him it'll be even . Although the I believe the Titans can take this now

@xxxcarzellxxx: Before Barry dies or after?

@dragonenton: before Barry dies

@dragonenton: if you add Flash i will have to invoke my "No Sentry/Flash" Clause which states:

"Under no circumstances, barring the inclusion of Adam Warlock, shall Serrure participate in a thread which includes 1 or more of the following combatants

1. Flash

2. Sentry

3. Wonder Woman w/ Sword

Serrure apologizes for the inconvenience and wants you to know he doesnt care that much"

Edit: I agree with SUNMAN. Titans have a good chance so long as they remove Hulk early on. Beast Boy could fly into Hulks body causing some brain damage taking him out.

It's not necessary to add more titans as Avengers have a lot more mid tier heroes while Titans only have Robin as their weak link.

@heeeelpmeeeee: @serrure: Fixed.

@heeeelpmeeeee: yeah I take back what I said no flash

@dragonenton: yeah people who are saying either side stomps i just cant agree with but you could add Cassie Sandsmark (the 3rd wonder girl) to make it more fair if you think thats better

@serrure: Would Kon-El tip the odds in favor?

Avengers win, I won't say easily but they definitely take a heavy majority

Can't koriandr move faster than light

Teen Titans have a huge advantage with having Raven the most powerful person on both lists. And another advantage with Cyborg being able to boom tube any serious threats.

Anyone could make a case for Raven potentially soloing the Avengers.

Raven is too much for any of the Avengers to defeat.