Teen Titans vs Ash Ketchum

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#1 Edited by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio
Vs

Robin, Starfire, Cyborg, Raven, and Beast Boy (Cartoon)

Basic gear only

vs

Pikachu, Charizard, Snorlax, Heracross, Noctowl, Septile, Swellow, Glalie, Torterra, Infernape, Staraptor, and Gliscor (Anime and movie)

All attacks shown are allowed.

No prep

Morals on

Fight is on Park Ave in front of Avengers Tower:

City is evacuated

Battle is to K.O. or death

EDIT: Sorry, I meant Infernape.

#2 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Beast Boy should be able to become any of them....

So there's that.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#3 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (2755 posts) - 4 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Raven solos. Beast Boy solos. Starfire solos.

#4 Posted by Stingerrain (603 posts) - 4 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

How does this fight turn out? Either:

A. Raven encapsules them.

B. Beast Boy turns into a T-Rex and eats them.

C. Starfire spams energy blasts faster than the Pokemon can react and turns them into (no pun intended) ash.

... yeah pretty much what said.

On a somewhat related note, I really miss the old days of the Pokemon show. After Dawn left or whatever and that... other girl came along, things went downhill (or rather, more downhill for others).

#5 Posted by dondave (7490 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Teen Titans ftw

#6 Posted by Nefarious (16243 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

The Teen Titans stomp.

#7 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Should be more even now.

#8 Posted by Hazlenaut (1679 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Suggested pokemon for Ash use against Teen Titans.

Beast boy

Snivey : she can use attract on him. That is going to be laugh that he was defeated by the attraction of a grass snake. they wont let that one go.

Grable: he/she can out power him

Pikachu: curbstomp when Ash and Pikachu are on their a game they can defeat demigods. He can out speed him and electricity can take him out. you should see the electro ball he gave to giovanni. They went dragon ball on him

Heracross: out muscling him

Raven

Pikachu: see above

Noctowl: using the element of surprise foresight than attack. He/She can at least would make her vulnerable for next pokemon to defeat her

Cyborg

Grable: he bites his metal arms off

Glaile: freezing him

Charzard: by seismic toss

Pikachu: see above also Cyborg will underestimate the mouse

Septile: he can be very fast

Starfire

I have no idea how much electricity can she take. Glaile ice maybe? she will be difficult one take out.

#9 Posted by Roddy010 (4353 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@Hazlenaut: Raven has countered lightning with a tk shield. She stomps the pokemon.

#10 Posted by N0tS0An0nym0us (906 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Spite, robin casually throws a disk at Ash's face, its super effective .... Ash faints

#11 Posted by tomlikesfries (3209 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Titans easily win.

#12 Edited by Hazlenaut (1679 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@Roddy010: but how fast can she do it? Pikachu is a tiny super fast creature. he does have a chance a slim one he has one. Has she fought super fast squirrel sized creatures that shoot lightning yet? Counter shield is considered a double lareit with ensnarement. Pikachu is a very evasive mouse. the shock mouse has been though a lot.

I forgot to count Robin he probably knows about pokemon. he would tell Ash to stop and go diplomatic approach. Which robin are we using for this scenario? Starfire can do that as well hitting cute creatures she wont do if she is provoked.

#13 Posted by Roddy010 (4353 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@Hazlenaut said:

@Roddy010: but how fast can she do it? Pikachu is a tiny super fast creature. he does have a chance a slim one he has one. Has she fought super fast squirrel sized creatures that shoot lightning yet? Counter shield is considered a double lareit with ensnarement. Pikachu is a very evasive mouse. the shock mouse has been though a lot.

I forgot to count Robin he probably knows about pokemon. he would tell Ash to stop and go diplomatic approach. Which robin are we using for this scenario? Starfire can do that as well hitting cute creatures she wont do if she is provoked.

As fast as her mind can produce a shield. I've seen her shiled herself from a lava explosion. lightning and also lasers. As powerful as pikachu is he can only move as fast as Ash commands him to, its not fully acting on its own.

#14 Edited by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@Hazlenaut said:

@Roddy010: but how fast can she do it? Pikachu is a tiny super fast creature. he does have a chance a slim one he has one. Has she fought super fast squirrel sized creatures that shoot lightning yet? Counter shield is considered a double lareit with ensnarement. Pikachu is a very evasive mouse. the shock mouse has been though a lot.

I forgot to count Robin he probably knows about pokemon. he would tell Ash to stop and go diplomatic approach. Which robin are we using for this scenario? Starfire can do that as well hitting cute creatures she wont do if she is provoked.

The Robin from the TT cartoon. Thats the version of all the characters I am using. And Ash is not in this scenario. He is just commanding his Pokemon from the sidelines. And remember, this is a no prep fight.

#15 Posted by Vance Astro (88633 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Ash.SLAUGHTEHOUSE

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#16 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@Stingerrain said:

How does this fight turn out? Either:

A. Raven encapsules them.

B. Beast Boy turns into a T-Rex and eats them.

C. Starfire spams energy blasts faster than the Pokemon can react and turns them into (no pun intended) ash.

... yeah pretty much what said.

On a somewhat related note, I really miss the old days of the Pokemon show. After Dawn left or whatever and that... other girl came along, things went downhill (or rather, more downhill for others).

A. She is not capturing them all. Maybe one or two by surprise but not all. She would have to encompass the entire area which she has never done.

B. Beast Boy turns into a T-Rex and becomes a really big really slow target. Hyper beam from Snorlax followed by a mega punch and BB is down.

C. The Pokemon dodge attacks like that all the time. He fire rate is not speedblitzing anyone here except for maybe Snorlax. But especially not Pikachu. And her blasts don't have that kind of destructive power to vaporize unless maybe bloodlusted.

#17 Posted by FourthDeity (2222 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Raven solos. Beast Boy solos. Starfire solos.
#18 Posted by NeonGameWave (5107 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Teen Titans.

#19 Posted by Outside_85 (4636 posts) - 4 months, 17 days ago - Show Bio

Pile on Ash

#20 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

bump

#21 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 4 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

Teen Titans.

#22 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

Beast Boy rapidly changes between the different Pokemon and uses their own abilities to beat them.

All the while the rest of the Titans use their toonforce-esque powers to KO them with attacks that should clearly have killed them and not KO'd them.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#23 Posted by SupermanWins465 (202 posts) - 4 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

I don't know about ash.. but when I played pokemon my lineup was 6 mewtwos. 
 
gl stomping my godsquad.

#24 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: So Beast Boy can hypnotise, shoot fire and electricity, move at really high speeds and know how to do it all right off the bat?

#25 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@Floopay: So Beast Boy can hypnotise, shoot fire and electricity, move at really high speeds and know how to do it all right off the bat?

Beast Boy turned into a Tamaranean animal that he had never been before and was able to function as one with no issues. Same thing when he turned into that werewolf beast looking thing. In the cartoon, Beast Boy could mimic all the abilities of any animal he turned into.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#26 Edited by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: That was due to copying their muscle structrure. Unless he has done it before, I doubt he could use energy blasts and hypnosis, especially if he has never seen it before. Animals don't have powers like Pokemon. He might be able to look like a pokemon but using their full abilities is something totally different.

#27 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Hazlenaut: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

DUDE YOUR CLASSIC

but seriously Spite!!!!!!!!!!

#28 Posted by kuzu (6 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Ash could of took this if he was free to use whatever pokemon he wanted

#29 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@Floopay: That was due to copying their muscle structrure. Unless he has done it before, I doubt he could use energy blasts and hypnosis, especially if he has never seen it before. Animals don't have powers like Pokemon.

If he's observed them using a power and knows they have it, I see no reason why he couldn't do it once he transforms into one. He's been a bat, a whale, bees, a cell, shocked people by turning into an eel, slithered around as a snake, become a chameleon and used it's stealth abilities.

People give nature less credit than it deserves when it comes to weird abilities, and he's mastered all of them. For him it shouldn't take much effort to replicate their abilities, there are tons of animals in nature who can discharge electricit, venom, secretions, sonar, sonic resonance, color changing, etc. etc.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#30 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: Ive never seen anything in nature fire a full thunderbolt. Pokemon >>> nature because it is all that and more. And besides there is a big chance that BB wouldn't use a Pokemon form right off the bat. Ex. He is up against Pikachu. He changes into a gorilla thinking it's gonna be an easy win. But he gets a volt tackle to the face. K.O. Ex 2. Up against Snorlax. Turns into a trex instead of a slow looking teddy bear thing. Gets a hyper beam to the face, a mega punch to the gut finished off with a body slam. K.O. And im still not seeing how BB does a fire blast or Iron Tail.

And just because you see someone do a magic trick, do you automatically know how it works? Just because you see someone do a backflip can you do it? Even if you can mimic their bodies, can you land properly without knowing the exact movements? Good chance youll snap an ankle on the landing.

#31 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@Floopay: Ive never seen anything in nature fire a full thunderbolt. Pokemon >>> nature because it is all that and more. And besides there is a big chance that BB wouldn't use a Pokemon form right off the bat. Ex. He is up against Pikachu. He changes into a gorilla thinking it's gonna be an easy win. But he gets a volt tackle to the face. K.O. Ex 2. Up against Snorlax. Turns into a trex instead of a slow looking teddy bear thing. Gets a hyper beam to the face, a mega punch to the gut finished off with a body slam. K.O. And im still not seeing how BB does a fire blast or Iron Tail.

And just because you see someone do a magic trick, do you automatically know how it works? Just because you see someone do a backflip can you do it? Even if you can mimic their bodies, can you land properly without knowing the exact movements? Good chance youll snap an ankle on the landing.

You say this like Beast Boy hasn't tanked hits that could crumble buildings before...

Realistically the attacks the Teen Titans regularly tank are way higher than the attacks these Pokemon have put out.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#32 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: When has he tanked a building buster and been able to fight fine after? And its only certain titans who can tank. Robin isnt tanking much of anything. He will dodge but not tank. And up against speedsters, hes not dodging. Cyborg was torn apart by brother blood. but he could tank a good enough amount, except maybe electrical attacks. raven and starfire are good threats as well. but the same can be said for the TT. Can they output as much as a legendary pokemon or take a hypnosis/confusion?

#33 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@Floopay: When has he tanked a building buster and been able to fight fine after? And its only certain titans who can tank. Robin isnt tanking much of anything. He will dodge but not tank. And up against speedsters, hes not dodging. Cyborg was torn apart by brother blood. but he could tank a good enough amount, except maybe electrical attacks. raven and starfire are good threats as well. but the same can be said for the TT. Can they output as much as a legendary pokemon or take a hypnosis/confusion?

Robin has dodged lasers and explosions from near point blank before, I think you're really underestimating his toon force powers.

Not the first time he took on the Titans either:

And that's Robin against his own team and obviously holding back. I'm still not convinced Beast Boy couldn't just turn into one of these things. Again, there are several animals with a lot different abilities. Maybe not as strong as Pokemon, but I don't see how PIkachu discharging electricity is any different than an Eel discharging electricity. One's just to a much greater magnitude.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#34 Edited by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: Yeah I know Robin is a threat here. But I think after an extended time fighting certain Pokemon he could lose. For example Noctowl has hax abilities that would get to Robin like hypnosis and confusion. And I don't think he could continuously dodge Pikachu quick attack spam. As for BB. Ok lets say he and Pikachu get into it. BB turns into Pika for whatever reason. He would still be at a big disadvantage because he wouldn't know all of Pika's abilities until they have been used on him. And even if the fight lasts long enough for him to learn all of Pika's moves, Pikachu would still have a bit of an advantage due to Pikachu knowing how to use his powers better than BB who has never done anything like them before. But that being said, he's not going to choose Pokemon right off the bat since dinosaurs look way tougher than Pokemon. Element of surprise goes to Pokemon.

#35 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@Floopay: Yeah I know Robin is a threat here. But I think after an extended time fighting certain Pokemon he could lose. For example Noctowl has hax abilities that would get to Robin like hypnosis and confusion. And I don't think he could continuously dodge Pikachu quick attack spam. As for BB. Ok lets say he and Pikachu get into it. BB turns into Pika for whatever reason. He would still be at a big disadvantage because he wouldn't know all of Pika's abilities until they have been used on him. And even if the fight lasts long enough for him to learn all of Pika's moves, Pikachu would still have a bit of an advantage due to Pikachu knowing how to use his powers better than BB who has never done anything like them before.

Raven is a bit more than the team might be able to handle as well...

Starfire and Raven can handle a lot of these things at once, with the combination of the others they are going against a pretty ridiculous level of power.

Beast Boy would have a huge advantage fighting any of the Pokemon. Not only could he turn into any one of them, but he has a host of alien animals, and the sasquatch form he can turn into. Plus he has more training than any of them because he's been so many animals and dang near mastered their physiques. Whereas the others have spent their entire lifetimes limited to their own body, and therefore don't intricately understand the anatomical make-up of another animal to the same degree Beast Boy does.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#36 Posted by Sideslash (5513 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

*Robin uses Titans GO!*

*It's supereffective.*

*Teen Titans win!*

#37 Edited by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: Yeah, I know Raven and Starfire are big factors here. But I think your underestimating considering Pikachu and Charizard considering they can fight with Legendary pokemon. And the Pokemon have fought animals of all forms as well. Quadropeds, bipeds, flyers, ghost like, etc. And turning into an animal with no powers besides brute strength wont help, especially against speed and fire power. Pikachu could dodge all of Sasquach's hits and electrocute it continuously. And seeing as he can cut through huge tidal waves with one iron tail and break through an attack from a legendary pokemon with volt tackle, cause a stadium sized explosion, and knock it out, Pika packs power.

#38 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (2637 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Ash wins. He would use his pokeballs and capture the super rare Teen Titans!!!

#39 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406:

Yes, but at the end of the day Pikachu is immune to much of his own attacks. I still haven't seen any reason Beast Boy couldn't turn into one of these. When he was on Tameran he was able to transform into a species and animal from an entirely different solar system as the one he came from.

He can turn into dinosaurs which are from a time period and have a genetic make up much different than most modern Earthly animals. He also turned into that beast thing that outclassed Starfire and Cyclops in strength, speed, and durability during the "Beast Within" episode, and that was something that was of a completely different species than any known animal in existence.

Then we have Raven's TK and darkness. Starfire's star bolts and nova attacks, Cyborg's sonic disruptor, and other mechanical devices, and finally Robin and his toonforce esque powers.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#40 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: I'm not saying he couldn't turn into Pokemon. I'm saying that he still wouldn't know how to use their powers as well as the the Pokemon already do which is a disadvantage. And that creature is pretty much the only one that would pose a big threat. But remember, Charizard had a good fight with an Entei a while back which is way stronger and has been training ever since. Pikachu has seen some pretty tough battles as well. From Articuno (win) to Latias (Draw). He fights on a different level than most pokemon of his calibur.

And then we have Glalie's freezing powers, Noctowls hypnosis and TK, Pidgeot/Staraptor's insane flight speed and power, Septile/Monferno's h2h, Snorlax's raw power and Pikachu/Charizard's combat skill/power.

You should also know that Pika can make electric barriers, use an electrified iron tail (massive damage), use a pokemons hair against it with enormous static shock, thunder armor, and much more. BB is not copying all of that in one fight which took Pika a long time to learn.

#41 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: Since you think the Pokemon don't have enough power chack this out.

and sorry it was charizard who beat articuno

#42 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@Floopay: I'm not saying he couldn't turn into Pokemon. I'm saying that he still wouldn't know how to use their powers as well as the the Pokemon already do which is a disadvantage. And that creature is pretty much the only one that would pose a big threat. But remember, Charizard had a good fight with an Entei a while back which is way stronger and has been training ever since. Pikachu has seen some pretty tough battles as well. From Articuno (win) to Latias (Draw). He fights on a different level than most pokemon of his calibur.

And then we have Glalie's freezing powers, Noctowls hypnosis and TK, Pidgeot/Staraptor's insane flight speed and power, Septile/Monferno's h2h, Snorlax's raw power and Pikachu/Charizard's combat skill/power.

You should also know that Pika can make electric barriers, use an electrified iron tail (massive damage), use a pokemons hair against it with enormous static shock, thunder armor, and much more. BB is not copying all of that in one fight which took Pika a long time to learn.

I have no doubts this will be a good fight, I'm just saying I'd definitely side with the Teen Titans in a clear majority. I think no matter what the scenario the Titans would have a heck of a fight on their hands, however, the Titans also have a huge advantage in team dynamics. The Pokemon here don't have nearly as much experience fighting with one another as the Titans have fighting as a team. Which is a huge factor here.

Beast Boy can go Snorlax and tank a lot of these attacks, go Blue Whale, Cobra, Gorilla, Humming Bird, etc. All of these he can shapeshift between in a moments notice. Robin has all those explosives, and ridiculous levels of training, speed, and strength. Starfire has eye beams, star bolts, and her novas. Over and above this her strength is unmatched here, and has durability to match. Cyborg is also a strength/durability power house, plus he has that cannon on his arm.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#43 Posted by mk111 (2314 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

Teen Titans for the win.

#44 Edited by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: I see what your saying. I'm not saying that you shouldn't side with TT if you see them winning. But I just wanted you to know the full extent of the Pokemon's powers before making a decision. But just know it will take more than a few blasts and an explosive to K.O. the heavy hitters who tank stadium sized explosions at the center. And don't forget about Blaze and Overgrow which give Septile and Infernape enourmous power boosts should they be in a pinch.

#45 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@Floopay: I see what your saying. I'm not saying that you shouldn't side with TT if you see them winning. But I just wanted you to know the full extent of the Pokemon's powers before making a decision. But just know it will take more than a few blasts and an explosive to K.O. the heavy hitters who tank stadium sized explosions at the center. And don't forget about Blaze and Overgrow which give Septile and Infernape enourmous power boosts should they be in a pinch.

To me the biggest factor for my decision is Raven, her powers are incredibly versatile, and can shield the whole team, use her TK to hold entire characters on the other team, etc.

And then there's Starfire :P

To me those are the two biggest factors to overcome, Starfire's ridiculous durability and strength. And Raven's ridiculous versatility, plus if she lets loose with her emotions at all this could be over...

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#46 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: My final fyi feats

Charizard taking a hydro pump, which he is weak against, dead on and melting rocks.

#47 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406:

Very nice!

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#48 Posted by UltimateHero0406 (1826 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@Floopay: Nice debating with you! First good one I've had in a while.

#49 Posted by Floopay (5588 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@UltimateHero0406 said:

@Floopay: Nice debating with you! First good one I've had in a while.

Always a pleasure talking to a good debater, and I respect your opinion. Hope to do it again in the future :D

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#50 Posted by mavfan626 (3979 posts) - 4 months, 10 days ago - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

Raven solos. Beast Boy solos. Starfire solos.
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