**Team Supergirl VS Team Thor

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If you ever read about Grey Hulk you would know bullets penetrated his skin. I refuse to stay on that topic though we should be talking about the battle not whether bullets can penetrate Hulk or Diana.

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#102  Edited By eternityx

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@eternityx: Thor is too slow to fight Diana is the point im trying to make

Thor has reacted to bullets too.

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BTW, Mjolnir can easily tag Wonder Woman.

Thor also has Omnidirectional blasts to deal with speedsters.

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@jayc1324: And what speed feats does Hermes have to suggest that he should be recognized as some insane speedster who should be recognized among some of the top dogs in speed?Moved faster travel wise but comparing their reactions is a different story

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Hulk is bulletproof. In his latest issue, Adamantium Bullets had no effect on him

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@ghostravage: Admantium bullets can no longer pierce Hulk as seen in his latest issue, his skin has unexpectedly become denser

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@eternityx: would Mjolnir tag her before she blitz and punch him in the throat? Diana also has that lasso feat where she did some type of blast idk what it was though.

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My mistake if bullets no longer penetrate his skin. Writers tend to change things up and be inconsistent.

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@reaverlation: Thor dug a ditch around him BEFORE he could react. And also I would like to point out that superman has said that Deathstroke escaped his sight before he could react and use his x ray vision. What characters say mean nothing.

And Thor was the only one that could even see Hermes. The rest of the avengers were standing Thor thinking Thor was going crazy because he was moving so fast and attacking something something that they could not even see.

He has super speed

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#109  Edited By ZhuRong

That Hermes feat means crap. Wonder Woman tagged the Flash while blindfolded.

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@jayc1324: lol all Superman did was compliment Slade's speed.

Seeing isn't reacting.BRB saw Surfer going light speed but it doesn't mean he can react to him

And yet Thor needed an AoE attack to put QS down.Thor has super speed sure and again so does Hulk and neither of them are near the top dogs in speed from Wonder Woman to Flash.

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#111  Edited By GhostRavage

@experio: @dondave: I stopped following Indestructible Hulk in Issue 18. So that's new to me... Sounds awesome though :P Thank you.

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Team Thor... mostly because Stargirl has no business being in a fight like this.

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#113  Edited By ZhuRong

@outside_85: Do you even know who Stargirl is? Or for that matter, what she is capable of?

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@heraldofganthet: interesting. And would hulks radiation just be powering her up? Also to clarify, you think hulk would be anon factor fairly quickly correct?

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#116  Edited By Killemall

@zhurong said:

Bullets can penetrate Hulk's skin so what is your point?

There are inconsistencies. Very recently Hulk was shrugging off adamantium bullets.

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Nobodys really made a strong case.

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@reaverlation: not only did Thor see Hermes but he was the only one fast enough to fight him. And like I said he also dug a ditch around him before he could react proving that he can run and dig at the same time faster than quicksilver.

Also wonder woman blocks bullets with her bracelets and thor blocks them with his hammer, they are on the same level of speed

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At which pre 52 level is WW? She has several. When powered by Gaia ( spelling? - earth goddess) her durability easily matched the best here due to insane level regen ( which is what she was at when tanking a nuke and not where she was when hurt by one).

Stargirl is being underestimated as usual. Her cosmic rod and belt draw on "power cosmic" the actual feats for them are insane. Granted she hasn't shown "many" of the insane level feats.

Honestly not sure who wins not that well versed in blue marvel. I can see fights between any of the girls and either Thorn or Hulk going either way in character

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@jayc1324: Like I said:Thor has super speed but then again so does Hulk.

Lmao.Pre 52 Diana blocked trillions of shards going at light speed. Lol at blocking bullets when Batman and Daredevil have done that

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@reaverlation: and Thor has dodged mjolnir which goes light speed when he wasn't wasnt expecting it. The point is that Diana's speed won't work against Thor.

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@jayc1324: Yeah the hammer he controls (sigh)...

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@jayc1324 Tell that to Quicksilver, Wolverine, Amadeus Cho, Moongoose, Captain America and Chulan.

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@reaverlation: but he wasn't expecting it. He called it by accident, it was an inch from his face and he turned and saw it at the last second and dodged it and it hit Hercules. Then he even says that he wasn't expecting Mjolnir to come to him. I have a scan if you want

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@beatboks1: would hulks gamma rays.be fueling the converter belt or the cosmic rod?

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@dondave: You mean all those guys who are no threat to Thor and Thor has no reason to try against them? You're forgetting batman has tagged wonder woman before. Those are low showings agaisnt street levelers, they shouldn't be brought up.

Thor has thwarted blitzs from characters faster than Diana. That's what matters here, not crappy low showings with street levelers.

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@dondave: Oh snap. I didn't know the list was that big. Has spidey ever tagged thor

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@zhurong: A human girl with a comic relic and an anti-gravity belt molded after Johns' dead sister; why is she even here?

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@jayc1324 Except for the fact that because of Chulan's speed, he killed Volstagg and subsequently killed Thor. Thor's high showing aren't actually good high showings.

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Ah the classic 'Thor has speed' arguments. Classic.

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@dondave: Batman tagged wonder woman still. Thor has shown he has super speed and super speed won't be enough for Diana to beat Thor. Thor can actually fly faster than her, so if anything Thor would hit her first

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#134  Edited By XiiX

@jayc1324: 1. It wasn't confirmed at going light-speed

2. For the sake of example, let's assume it was, dodging 1 light-speed projectile<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Blocking anywhere from thousands to trillions(frankly, I can't put enough "greater than" signs). Not only is there a ridiculously higher amount, blocking involves putting yourself in the way of them and pinpointing your defense to their trajectory. Dodging entails just moving........anywhere else.

And that concludes the two most obvious points I think I've ever made on this site.

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#135  Edited By dum529001

Wow.

Massive low-balling in this thread.

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@xiix: Mjolnir goes light speed, and blocking a bunch of stuff isn't going to help Diana here. Thor can fly way faster than Diana and will get to her first. Thor flies way faster than light

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#137  Edited By DemonKnights

@jayc1324: seriously? You're not.even.gonna concede that diana is faster than thor???? Lmao wow

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@jayc1324 Wonder Woman actually has feats that accurately demonstrate her high level of speed. All Thor really has is, "He fought fast characters, therefore he's fast"

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@demonknights: In travel speed? No she isn't. That's not arguable unless she has gone faster than light. In combat speed? She's faster but not by much and not enough to win her this fight.

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@dondave: maybe you didn't read all the feats I listed. He has shown to be faster than quicksilver. He blocks bullets. He reacts to speed blitzs. He's been stated to be as fast as lightning. And he can fly faster than Diana. Speed won't win her this fight.

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#141 frozen  Moderator

Wonder Woman has speed over Thor and skill. However in these stipulations I'd say Thor can overcome. He's stronger and more durable.

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#142  Edited By XiiX

@jayc1324: So does The Flash. Doesn't mean he always exercising it. You're just assuming it was traveling as such. If that's your line of reasoning, than Storm has light-speed reaction, because she's dodged it.

Sure it will. She only has to block or dodge one thing moving that fast, when she's blocked at least thousands. It's not difficult to understand.

A car travels way faster than a man, doesn't mean he can't/won't avoid it.

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@xiix: it still takes superspeed to dodge mjolnir.

No it won't help her. Diana has never reacted to something that goes as fast as mjolnir. She has only reacted to light speed. Mjolnir goes way faster than that.

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#144  Edited By XiiX

@jayc1324: When he travels. Not fighting. Same with Superman. He can travel faster than light-speed, but can't fight that fast.

According to your line of reasoning, Usain Bolt undoubtedly can fight faster than anyone else on the planet. Which is just dumb.

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@xiix: Yes that's my point. He can just throe mjolnir at her and she won't be able to react since it goes FTL

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#146  Edited By dondave

@jayc1324 Where was he shown to be faster than Quicksilver? After Quicksilver dodged his lightning and Thor took the floor away from him? Not really a feat for Thor.

Elektra can block bullets. Not really special

Deathstroke has been stated to be as fast as lightning. He's still street level.

Travel speed isn't going to help him here.

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#147  Edited By XiiX

@jayc1324: She blocked thousands or trillions of shards expelled at the SAME TIME. If she could only deflect one of them, you'd have a case. She blocked all of them. Just........stop it.

And if you'd like to frame it that way, you admit her reaction-speed being faster, so she'd have the first move, and slits his throat with her tiara.

There you go.

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@dondave: when he dug a ditch around quicksilver before he reacted..

And yes it will, he can just throw mjolnir at her and she won't be able to react to it since it goes FTL

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@xiix: She blocked thousands of objects that goes faster than light? That transcend time and space?

And let's not forget she can't just deflect mjolnir like a bullet or a shard, IF she is even fast enough to react to it, which she isn't.

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@jayc1324 Diana has reacted to things going FTL. Not to mention, she can just tie him up before he even has a chance to swing Mjolnir