7 members per team, 2 are surprise members who cannot be prepped for by the other team.
Batman has 8 hours prep, Spider-man's team has 1 hour
Surprise members have no morals.
Fight takes place in a large clearing surrounded by forest.
Spidey’s team starts in the middle of this clearing with Batman’s team having the element of surprise by being allowed to start wherever they want in the forest/clearing.
No BFR. Winning team has to have K.O/killed all members of the other team in character unless said.
Team Spider-man vs Team Batman
Well nobody gave you a reply, so I might as well say something. I don't mean to sound fanboyish, but the Spidey team would wreck!
Well nobody gave you a reply, so I might as well say something. I don't mean to sound fanboyish, but the Spidey team would wreck!The spider team would wreck. Especially with the surprise member. Maybe if you made this a random encounter for the spider team it would be more fair but an hour of prep in addition to the physical advantages tips this in the spiders favor too much IMO.
@BarelyAverage: bats has 8 hours prep in additionyou are giving them 8 hours prep? the bats stomps.........
Prep could give the bats a win, but what EXACTLY are they going to do in 8 hours? I feel like the actual time given or specific preparations made, are never really considered.
With prep, team Batman, after all Batman + prep= unbeatable, tis the rule
without prep, team arachnid destroys them
I want to hear some details about what he does with his 8 hours.
8 hours are enough to call Squirrel Girl :p
BB
Super sonics seem to disrupt spider sense, so the Bat team will exploit that.
For the members that aren't as powerful, Damian, Terry, Red Hood; They will get most of the super sonic weapons and will start themselves off IN THE BATPLANE!!
Batman, Cassie, and Nightwing are going to create something that can destroy the webs easily, fire anyone? Next, Batman & company will get some extra firepower with some androids or super battle suits.
Tim Drake will get an upgraded suit as well. He will come in a fe minutes after the battle began in the Bat Mobile.
Overall Batman's team will use super sonic weapons, bat vehicles, upgraded suits, knowledge about what makes them tick, fire, and more
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Buckshot: with prep bats could gas the whole city and beat them like that ......
Gassing a forest is a possible tactic. The question of if they'd do it or not is kind of answered by Jason Todd.
@PikminMania said:
@Buckshot: Spider-sense can only get you so far.... Super sonics seem to disrupt spider sense, so the Bat team will exploit that. For the members that aren't as powerful, Damian, Terry, Red Hood; They will get most of the super sonic weapons and will start themselves off IN THE BATPLANE!! Batman, Cassie, and Nightwing are going to create something that can destroy the webs easily, fire anyone? Next, Batman & company will get some extra firepower with some androids or super battle suits. Tim Drake will get an upgraded suit as well. He will come in a fe minutes after the battle began in the Bat Mobile. Overall Batman's team will use super sonic weapons, bat vehicles, upgraded suits, knowledge about what makes them tick, fire, and more
Sonics don't disrupt the spider sense in any significant way. They would affect the spider people maybe as much as everyone else though, which could be enough to be helpful. The Bat team carpet bombing from vehicles and super suits doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of the fight though, but what do I know.
I was just curious if people actually thought of anything when saying that batman wins with prep or if they just see the word prep and assume he's already won without thinking, and if there was thought involved, if it was anything more interesting than just overwhelming firepower.
@Buckshot said:@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Buckshot: with prep bats could gas the whole city and beat them like that ......Gassing a forest is a possible tactic. The question of if they'd do it or not is kind of answered by Jason Todd.
@PikminMania said:
@Buckshot: Spider-sense can only get you so far.... Super sonics seem to disrupt spider sense, so the Bat team will exploit that. For the members that aren't as powerful, Damian, Terry, Red Hood; They will get most of the super sonic weapons and will start themselves off IN THE BATPLANE!! Batman, Cassie, and Nightwing are going to create something that can destroy the webs easily, fire anyone? Next, Batman & company will get some extra firepower with some androids or super battle suits. Tim Drake will get an upgraded suit as well. He will come in a fe minutes after the battle began in the Bat Mobile. Overall Batman's team will use super sonic weapons, bat vehicles, upgraded suits, knowledge about what makes them tick, fire, and moreSonics don't disrupt the spider sense in any significant way. They would affect the spider people maybe as much as everyone else though, which could be enough to be helpful. The Bat team carpet bombing from vehicles and super suits doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of the fight though, but what do I know.
I was just curious if people actually thought of anything when saying that batman wins with prep or if they just see the word prep and assume he's already won without thinking, and if there was thought involved, if it was anything more interesting than just overwhelming firepower.
1. Overwhelming firepower really is what could do it@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Buckshot: with prep bats could gas the whole city and beat them like that ......Gassing a forest is a possible tactic. The question of if they'd do it or not is kind of answered by Jason Todd.
@PikminMania said:
@Buckshot: Spider-sense can only get you so far.... Super sonics seem to disrupt spider sense, so the Bat team will exploit that. For the members that aren't as powerful, Damian, Terry, Red Hood; They will get most of the super sonic weapons and will start themselves off IN THE BATPLANE!! Batman, Cassie, and Nightwing are going to create something that can destroy the webs easily, fire anyone? Next, Batman & company will get some extra firepower with some androids or super battle suits. Tim Drake will get an upgraded suit as well. He will come in a fe minutes after the battle began in the Bat Mobile. Overall Batman's team will use super sonic weapons, bat vehicles, upgraded suits, knowledge about what makes them tick, fire, and moreSonics don't disrupt the spider sense in any significant way. They would affect the spider people maybe as much as everyone else though, which could be enough to be helpful. The Bat team carpet bombing from vehicles and super suits doesn't really seem to be in the spirit of the fight though, but what do I know.
I was just curious if people actually thought of anything when saying that batman wins with prep or if they just see the word prep and assume he's already won without thinking, and if there was thought involved, if it was anything more interesting than just overwhelming firepower.
2. Super sonics can disrupt spider sense for like 1 minute at a time, exhibit A, Mysterio did it, Exhibit B, Hobgoblin did it in Big Time.
@PikminMania: I know it could. I didn't imply that it couldn't.
From the numerous examples of Spider-Man using sonics to take down Venom, Carnage or any other symbiotes, I can recall no instance of them affecting his spidersense or him making a comment that such a thing would affect him in any special way. I don't know of the Mysterio incident you're referencing, but I know Hobgoblin's laugh affected Spider-Man as it affects everyone. The spider sense works on a frequency so I could imagine it having some effect, but I don't see why it would be more significant than the normally debilitating effects of a focused sonic attack (which usually leaves people stunned by the sensory overload even without spider sense), especially without any mention of it the many other times he's used sonics. If it did anything special, it would only work on less than half of the team (granted, the strongest half). In any case, I've seen far more examples of it not being especially effective than it doing something specific to him like affect his spider sense, so that's the information I'd use.
@spidey 15 said:
Hobgoblin has never done anything to his spider-sense during big time. The sonics just weakened Spidey to the point that he could barely move or think and his eyes and nose were bleeding, i don't recall anywhere being stated that his spider-sense being affected at all. :)
Thanks for that. :)
@spidey 15: So why doesn't Batman just do that?? Also Batman has fear gas I believe and Spider-man would fall for that I'd say... and of course the overwhelming weaponry
@PikminMania said:
@Buckshot:
@spidey 15: So why doesn't Batman just do that?? Also Batman has fear gas I believe and Spider-man would fall for that I'd say... and of course the overwhelming weaponry
I never once said he couldn't. The point of my questions were to get more than just "Batman wins if there's prep". I wanted people to explain their viewpoints. I also wanted something a little more creative (not to mention, more in character) than "Batman carpet bombs a forest", but I might have to wait on that one.
I want to hear some details about what he does with his 8 hours.
Thank you ! people are always saying "Bats with prep wins" but they never actually say what he'll do just that he'll do something
Yes he could prep for venom; symbiots are vulnerable to sonics and flames. With all his equipment at wayne enterprises he could build a bat armor which has both those things built in as weapons. But Venom is a beast and would give Batman a fight, even with all that the fight could still go either way.
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