Team 1:
Batman, Lex Luthor, Reed Richards



Vs
Team 2:
Dr Doom, Tony Stark, John Constantine



Round 1:
-Morals On
-2 weeks prep
Round 2:
-Morals Off
-2 weeks prep
Location:

Morals On : Batman and Lex Luthor spend their entire 2 weeks arguing and don't actually get any prep work done.
Morals Off : Doctor Doom and Tony Stark have tech that with their combined forces would be next to unstoppable. Add to that that Constantine and Doctor Doom are masters with magic and you have an unstoppable group.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
@Floopay said:
Morals On : Batman and Lex Luthor spend their entire 2 weeks arguing and don't actually get any prep work done.
Morals Off : Doctor Doom and Tony Stark have tech that with their combined forces would be next to unstoppable. Add to that that Constantine and Doctor Doom are masters with magic and you have an unstoppable group.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
agreed. especially with the morals off scenario. lol
bats ignores the other 2 and preps alone.. for 3 different senarios and then morals off bats.. invents a nano virus that targets his enemies vitals so he can kill them at the press of a button or if his brain goes offline.. bats is the prep god..
@FMStyyx said:
bats ignores the other 2 and preps alone.. for 3 different senarios and then morals off bats.. invents a nano virus that targets his enemies vitals so he can kill them at the press of a button or if his brain goes offline.. bats is the prep god..
In prep feats Constantine actually has Batman beat. He's outsmarted DC's Gabriel and Lucifer Morningstar (i think he out smarted Lucifer not completely sure but he definitely pulled one over on Gabriel). In the 1st round its pretty close but in the 2end round Constantine with Morals Off and two weeks to do what ever he wants? I don't even want to think about what the English bloke would do with that, it makes my head want to explode.
@Floopay said:
Morals On : Batman and Lex Luthor spend their entire 2 weeks arguing and don't actually get any prep work done.
Morals Off : Doctor Doom and Tony Stark have tech that with their combined forces would be next to unstoppable. Add to that that Constantine and Doctor Doom are masters with magic and you have an unstoppable group.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
this
Team 1 both rounds just for my namesake, and I don't know Marvel characters very well.
@beatboks1 said:
Team 2 both rounds. No one in team 1 matches either Victor or John in team 2 in the art of prep. Lex is no match for Stark.
@ChaosMarvel said:
@FMStyyx said:
bats ignores the other 2 and preps alone.. for 3 different senarios and then morals off bats.. invents a nano virus that targets his enemies vitals so he can kill them at the press of a button or if his brain goes offline.. bats is the prep god..
In prep feats Constantine actually has Batman beat. He's outsmarted DC's Gabriel and Lucifer Morningstar (i think he out smarted Lucifer not completely sure but he definitely pulled one over on Gabriel). In the 1st round its pretty close but in the 2end round Constantine with Morals Off and two weeks to do what ever he wants? I don't even want to think about what the English bloke would do with that, it makes my head want to explode.
(my favor tie bat feat) bats rigged 500 hellspores to force darksied to give up super girl.. i think bats his better being only human and zero powers.. lex is not that awesome.. if bruce had to take superman down he would have.. lex failed too often... and he has no morals
@FMStyyx: John is only human and yet he managed to outsmart a celestial level threat, break into the Bat-mobile without Bruce being able to figure out how he did it and beat Superman with I quote "a simple method".
@ImTheDamnBatman said:
Team 1 both rounds just for my namesake, and I don't know Marvel characters very well.
Constantine is DC/Vertigo
I just want to say Constantine solos both rounds. That's my complete biased opinion on how Constantine is better than everyone else with prep in existence.
@ChaosMarvel said:
@FMStyyx: John is only human and yet he managed to outsmart a celestial level threat, break into the Bat-mobile without Bruce being able to figure out how he did it and beat Superman with I quote "a simple method".
@ImTheDamnBatman said:
Team 1 both rounds just for my namesake, and I don't know Marvel characters very well.Constantine is DC/Vertigo
um i have the swamp thing comics.. and if im not mistaken john has powers.. so my statement still stands.. also celelstial level threat.. well what do you considar dark sied.. and many people have broken into the bat cave..
@Floopay said:
Morals On : Batman and Lex Luthor spend their entire 2 weeks arguing and don't actually get any prep work done.
Morals Off : Doctor Doom and Tony Stark have tech that with their combined forces would be next to unstoppable. Add to that that Constantine and Doctor Doom are masters with magic and you have an unstoppable group.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
haha very well put mate :)
@Blacktimus said:
I just want to say Constantine solos both rounds. That's my complete biased opinion on how Constantine is better than everyone else with prep in existence.
Constant is more of a con man than anything, he uses his skills to con powerful people but against people with prep themselves he's actually out of his element here.
@FMStyyx: Just thought i'd throw in there that Chaos is technically right, John has no powers he is simply adept at magic. Anyone can do it if they put the effort in.
It's no different from Bruce being a master of every known martial art. Anyone can do it as long as they put the time an effort in.
@Floopay said:
Morals On : Batman and Lex Luthor spend their entire 2 weeks arguing and don't actually get any prep work done.
Lol for the purposes of the scenario we'll say they want to work together.
@Strider92 said:
@FMStyyx: Just thought i'd throw in there that Chaos is technically right, John has no powers he is simply adept at magic. Anyone can do it if they put the effort in.
It's no different from Bruce being a master of every known martial art. Anyone can do it as long as they put the time an effort in.
@Floopay said:
Morals On : Batman and Lex Luthor spend their entire 2 weeks arguing and don't actually get any prep work done.
Lol for the purposes of the scenario we'll say they want to work together.
magic is power..
@FMStyyx said:
(my favor tie bat feat) bats rigged 500 hellspores to force darksied to give up super girl.. i think bats his better being only human and zero powers.. lex is not that awesome.. if bruce had to take superman down he would have.. lex failed too often... and he has no morals
John doesn't have any power. He knows ritual magic. So does an Indian medicine man, or Chinese apothecary.
magic is power..
There is magic and there is magic. A magician work's magic and no one would call it power. Some mystics tap power others simply use knowledge of magic. The type of magic John does Bruce could do as well if he's studied it. That's a fail. John with his no power has tricked and bested beings who make Darkseid look insignificant.
@beatboks1 said:
@FMStyyx said:
(my favor tie bat feat) bats rigged 500 hellspores to force darksied to give up super girl.. i think bats his better being only human and zero powers.. lex is not that awesome.. if bruce had to take superman down he would have.. lex failed too often... and he has no morals
John doesn't have any power. He knows ritual magic. So does an Indian medicine man, or Chinese apothecary.
magic is power..
There is magic and there is magic. A magician work's magic and no one would call it power. Some mystics tap power others simply use knowledge of magic. The type of magic John does Bruce could do as well if he's studied it. That's a fail. John with his no power has tricked and bested beings who make Darkseid look insignificant.
magic is power.. doesnt mattter how you rationalize it.. its power.. mind control, arcane knowledge.. hypnosis.. its power.. bruce being a normal human with some problems and maybe being a genius.. bruce is better..
how is it power to draw a pentagram onthe ground and speak some words. or sprinkle some herbs and use an invocation. Anyone could do the same crap just by getting the right book. when " depowered" ( as in stripped of all power) the Phantom Stranger could do the same types of things Constantine can. Bruce has used magic himself at the level that John is capable of. John has no more power than Bruce unless you want to take away most of Bruces best prep feats. if so he looses badly.
Doom and Richards cancel each other out, Stark comes next IMO and puts their team ahead of team 1.
It really depends though, sometimes Bruce does ridiculous stuff with prep, and as much as I believe Stark as being smarter Bruce can be pretty ridiculous at time.
@FMStyyx said:
@beatboks1 said:
@FMStyyx said:
(my favor tie bat feat) bats rigged 500 hellspores to force darksied to give up super girl.. i think bats his better being only human and zero powers.. lex is not that awesome.. if bruce had to take superman down he would have.. lex failed too often... and he has no morals
John doesn't have any power. He knows ritual magic. So does an Indian medicine man, or Chinese apothecary.
magic is power..
There is magic and there is magic. A magician work's magic and no one would call it power. Some mystics tap power others simply use knowledge of magic. The type of magic John does Bruce could do as well if he's studied it. That's a fail. John with his no power has tricked and bested beings who make Darkseid look insignificant.
magic is power.. doesnt mattter how you rationalize it.. its power.. mind control, arcane knowledge.. hypnosis.. its power.. bruce being a normal human with some problems and maybe being a genius.. bruce is better..
And yet you can do the exact same thing with science something Bruce uses a lot of. Neither Bruce nor John have any natural superpowers they both create their own.
Eh, I honestly think Reed is the superior prepper between him and Doom simply because his track record against Doom is better. People put too much emphasis on the whole Doom-stole-Beyonder's-powers-thing as if it's what Doom does in all his prep showings. A prepped Doom has also lost to several people, one of them being --you guessed it-- a prepped Reed.
That said, Team 2 wins because they have both Doom and Constantine. Batman is dead weight for Team 1, dunno why he's there when everyone else has better prep feats than he does.
@ChaosMarvel said:
@FMStyyx said:
bats ignores the other 2 and preps alone.. for 3 different senarios and then morals off bats.. invents a nano virus that targets his enemies vitals so he can kill them at the press of a button or if his brain goes offline.. bats is the prep god..
In prep feats Constantine actually has Batman beat. He's outsmarted DC's Gabriel and Lucifer Morningstar (i think he out smarted Lucifer not completely sure but he definitely pulled one over on Gabriel). In the 1st round its pretty close but in the 2end round Constantine with Morals Off and two weeks to do what ever he wants? I don't even want to think about what the English bloke would do with that, it makes my head want to explode.
John and Lucifer have never even met.
@FMStyyx said:
@beatboks1 said:
@FMStyyx said:
(my favor tie bat feat) bats rigged 500 hellspores to force darksied to give up super girl.. i think bats his better being only human and zero powers.. lex is not that awesome.. if bruce had to take superman down he would have.. lex failed too often... and he has no morals
John doesn't have any power. He knows ritual magic. So does an Indian medicine man, or Chinese apothecary.
magic is power..
There is magic and there is magic. A magician work's magic and no one would call it power. Some mystics tap power others simply use knowledge of magic. The type of magic John does Bruce could do as well if he's studied it. That's a fail. John with his no power has tricked and bested beings who make Darkseid look insignificant.
magic is power.. doesnt mattter how you rationalize it.. its power.. mind control, arcane knowledge.. hypnosis.. its power.. bruce being a normal human with some problems and maybe being a genius.. bruce is better..
Whether or not people have power has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
I am not going to make an argument for Round 1 because they clearly take it.
but for round two they do have a chance, you guys can say that Doom is overpowered but fact is Richards always beats him with a gadget. so that is Doom. Iron Man is as easy as hacking his armor like Octopus did and if a broke scientist like Dock Ock can do it the 3 richest and smartest can find a armor and use it against him in anyway . then there is constantine which I do not know anything about but they easiest way to take him down is for Batman to get close enough and sucker punch him because most of the time magic has the upper hand with science.
so that is my argument just to go for the underdog
@Floopay said:
Morals On : Batman and Lex Luthor spend their entire 2 weeks arguing and don't actually get any prep work done.
Morals Off : Doctor Doom and Tony Stark have tech that with their combined forces would be next to unstoppable. Add to that that Constantine and Doctor Doom are masters with magic and you have an unstoppable group.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
@FMStyyx said:
@ChaosMarvel said:
@FMStyyx said:
bats ignores the other 2 and preps alone.. for 3 different senarios and then morals off bats.. invents a nano virus that targets his enemies vitals so he can kill them at the press of a button or if his brain goes offline.. bats is the prep god..
In prep feats Constantine actually has Batman beat. He's outsmarted DC's Gabriel and Lucifer Morningstar (i think he out smarted Lucifer not completely sure but he definitely pulled one over on Gabriel). In the 1st round its pretty close but in the 2end round Constantine with Morals Off and two weeks to do what ever he wants? I don't even want to think about what the English bloke would do with that, it makes my head want to explode.
(my favor tie bat feat) bats rigged 500 hellspores to force darksied to give up super girl.. i think bats his better being only human and zero powers.. lex is not that awesome.. if bruce had to take superman down he would have.. lex failed too often... and he has no morals
I agree that it is good prep feat for Batman, but funny thing is that Darkseid forgot about his telepathy
@BigCimmerian said:
@FMStyyx said:
@ChaosMarvel said:
@FMStyyx said:
bats ignores the other 2 and preps alone.. for 3 different senarios and then morals off bats.. invents a nano virus that targets his enemies vitals so he can kill them at the press of a button or if his brain goes offline.. bats is the prep god..
In prep feats Constantine actually has Batman beat. He's outsmarted DC's Gabriel and Lucifer Morningstar (i think he out smarted Lucifer not completely sure but he definitely pulled one over on Gabriel). In the 1st round its pretty close but in the 2end round Constantine with Morals Off and two weeks to do what ever he wants? I don't even want to think about what the English bloke would do with that, it makes my head want to explode.
(my favor tie bat feat) bats rigged 500 hellspores to force darksied to give up super girl.. i think bats his better being only human and zero powers.. lex is not that awesome.. if bruce had to take superman down he would have.. lex failed too often... and he has no morals
I agree that it is good prep feat for Batman, but funny thing is that Darkseid forgot about his telepathy
theres a chance it wouldnt help him.. bats prolly made the password random and hard to crack open
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