Team Emma vs Team Betsy

Team Emma:

Emma Frost

Cyclops

Namor

Team Betsy:

Psylocke

Archangel (from before fantomex shot apocalypse)

Fantomex

VS

Location:

Utopia Island

bloodlusted

Cyke's visor is glued to his face

Team Betsy due to Fantomex.

Team 1. No distance so up close Namor should be too fast for anyone on team 2 and with him being able to one shot anyone he can rip through them. I haven't seen anything too impressive with Fantomex's reflexes to say he would misdirect him before he gets blitzed, but I've fallen behind X-force so correct me if I'm wrong. Emma can also hold off any of Psylocke's telepathic attacks that Betsy may start with so Namor can rid of the rest of the team or Cyclops shoots them around the same time Betsy might try using her TK.

@Illuminatus said:

Team Betsy due to Fantomex.

What are Fantomex's reflexes since UXF 12? I haven't seen anything to suggest from then and before that he can react to Namor blitzing them.

@god_spawn said:

@Illuminatus said:

Team Betsy due to Fantomex.

What are Fantomex's reflexes since UXF 12? I haven't seen anything to suggest from then and before that he can react to Namor blitzing them.

Is Namor faster then Archangel? Bloodlusted he could blitz and chop off some heads.

@Illuminatus said:

Team Betsy due to Fantomex.

What are Fantomex's reflexes since UXF 12? I haven't seen anything to suggest from then and before that he can react to Namor blitzing them.

@god_spawn said:

@Illuminatus said:

Team Betsy due to Fantomex.

What are Fantomex's reflexes since UXF 12? I haven't seen anything to suggest from then and before that he can react to Namor blitzing them.

Is Namor faster then Archangel? Bloodlusted he could blitz and chop off some heads.

@LordStoop: I know Namor flies at mach speeds. I can't remember Archangel's top speed I thought it was 150mph but maybe that was just regular Angel? If so yes he is much slower. I do know he doesn't have the reflexes Namor does nor is gonna hurt Namor or be able to withstand a single hit from him. His wing daggers aren't cutting him either. If Archangel chooses to intercept Namor he isn't slowing him down that much at all which means Namor blitzes him and a second person before they can react. So even if it does come down to Archangel blitzing Emma and Scott while Namor blitzes Psylocke and Fantomex, Warren doesn't stand a chance.

@LordStoop said:

@god_spawn said:

@Illuminatus said:

Team Betsy due to Fantomex.

What are Fantomex's reflexes since UXF 12? I haven't seen anything to suggest from then and before that he can react to Namor blitzing them.

Is Namor faster then Archangel? Bloodlusted he could blitz and chop off some heads.

Archangel cannot stop him he needs to be fast enough to hit Fantomex immediately.

Team 1 but only because of Namor would react faster than the time needed for Fantomex to employ his misdirection. That's all it really comes down to.

@ragdollpurps said:

Team 1 but only because of Namor would react faster than the time needed for Fantomex to employ his misdirection. That's all it really comes down to.

In a nutshell.

Team 1 because of Namor.

Team 2.

@Morpheus_

Team 2.

Not biased at allllll

@Morpheus_ said:

@Mercy_ said:

@Morpheus_

Team 2.

Not biased at allllll

I never am biased when it comes to debating. If you want me to prove team 2 wins, I shall.

Bring it on.

Do it. Dooooooooooo it.

@Morpheus_ said:

@Mercy_ said:

@Morpheus_

Team 2.

Not biased at allllll

I never am biased when it comes to debating. If you want me to prove team 2 wins, I shall.

Bring it on.

Do it. Dooooooooooo it.

@Morpheus_: Wait... Am I missing some sort of innuendo... Or will you really prove how team 2 wins?

@Morpheus_: Wait... Am I missing some sort of innuendo... Or will you really prove how team 2 wins?

@Morpheus_: Well... Do this first, before I have to sleep. xD

@Morpheus_: Well... Do this first, before I have to sleep. xD

@Morpheus_:

i) Bloodlust means characters retain their individuality, but will have no qualms about killing their opponents.

Since when? ...Ah wait that's no morals isn't it? Damn you Morph.

@Morpheus_: Makes sense to me. Question: Do you think Emma's telepathy is strong enough to penetrate the mind of a risen Archangel? Not that he is in this battle, because he isn't, but just hypothetically.

@ragdollpurps said:

Team 1 but only because of Namor would react faster than the time needed for Fantomex to employ his misdirection. That's all it really comes down to.

Damn you Morph.

@Morpheus_: Makes sense to me. Question: Do you think Emma's telepathy is strong enough to penetrate the mind of a risen Archangel? Not that he is in this battle, because he isn't, but just hypothetically.

@Morpheus_: So by extrapolation does that mean that Psylocke's telepathy is now currently stronger than Emma's since she was able to penetrate his mind with a psychoblast?

@Morpheus_: Anyways if that is the case...then team 2 wins -_-.

@Morpheus_: So by extrapolation does that mean that Psylocke's telepathy is now currently stronger than Emma's since she was able to penetrate his mind with a psychoblast?

@Morpheus_: True, but are psychic defenses something you must maintain and hold up, or are they like passive buffs that are innate and always at a certain degree of impenetrability?

@Morpheus_: True, but are psychic defenses something you must maintain and hold up, or are they like passive buffs that are innate and always at a certain degree of impenetrability?

@ragdollpurps said:

@Morpheus_: True, but are psychic defenses something you must maintain and hold up, or are they like passive buffs that are innate and always at a certain degree of impenetrability?

Sometimes both. I'll explain after school in a PM or something if you want.

@Morpheus_: Hmmm.. I see.

@god_spawn: Sure, I've got to head to sleep here soon, anyways.

@ragdollpurps said:

@Morpheus_: True, but are psychic defenses something you must maintain and hold up, or are they like passive buffs that are innate and always at a certain degree of impenetrability?

Sometimes both. I'll explain after school in a PM or something if you want.

Leaning toward team 2 due to Fantomex.

Grumbles

@Mercy_: He's right DH. I checked into it, Namor's top speed is Mach 1. If bloodlusted means they still retain their sense of self he won't blitz and he can't either way. Most of those guys do dodge or deflect bullets and more often than 1 at times. A bullet from a standard 9mm travels roughly 680 mph, while mach 1 is about 760 mph so not even a 100mph difference. And since they do deflect or dodge more than one and the guns may even be of a higher power meaning a faster bullet speed, they should have the reaction to dodge Namor or get him misdirected before he does strike.

Namor's highest clocked speed is really Mach 1? Freaking Pietro is faster than that.

@Illuminatus: I meant to edit the post but accidentally deleted it. Yeah I believe it was 60 mph back once upon a time. I'm not sure his flight speed has ever been clocked at top speed but I believe his speed rating in the handbooks is like a 3 which at the most if I'm not mistake is just under mach 1 (760 mph) at a peak of 700 mph or mach 1 is the peak (only a 60 mph difference). But I haven't checked a handbook in awhile so I'm just going off what I can remember.

@Illuminatus: I could be a bit off though so take it for what you will since I'm not a big fan of the character so I don't pay much attention to him. His best feat in my book was the infamous imperious sexing of a tapework with 30 boobs.

@god_spawn said:

@Illuminatus: I could be a bit off though so take it for what you will since I'm not a big fan of the character so I don't pay much attention to him. His best feat in my book was the infamous imperious sexing of a tapework with 30 boobs.

...I totally forgot about that in Uncanny...and I thought the flirtatiousness from Hope was McNasty...thanks for the visual o.0'

Fantomex uses misdirection to mess with team Emma. This really is not a fair match up.

Team Emma because i want to disagree with Morph ^_^