Team Black Panther vs Team Batwing

Team Black Panther

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Killer Croc, Crossbones, Sabretooth, Black Panther

Team Batwing

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Wolfsbane, Nuke, Tombstone, Batwing

Location

Rules

No BFR

No PIS

Nuke is in Scourge gear

Composite Lucas Fox and David Zavimbe Batwing

New-52 Croc (may use pre/post crisis feats as well)

Round One

No prep

H2H

No adamantium for Sabretooth

Round Two

6 hrs prep

No outside help

Sabretooth has adamantium

Victory by KO Incapacitation or Death

I wanna say round one goes to Team Batwing, but just barely. And round two goes to Team Black Panther.

Tombstone presents some problems. But I say team one both rounds.

Team 1 wins both rounds handily.

Also, it doesn't make much sense to use David's feats when they're completely different characters with completely different suits

@kokemabb200: Well that's why I said within reason. Like if there's something that David did that Lucas could possibly replicate, then it could be worth noting.

@warlordeternal: Thanks for explaining

@kokemabb200: No problem.

Tombstone? This is just short of spite.

@renaissanceman: @classymerc: Any reasons in particular?

Really?

Bump

@warlordeternal: Well in Round One, I see Tombstone being the MVP as he is nearly invulnerable and can press 6 tons. No one in Panthers team can really do anything to him. Croc is quite the jobber so I don't think he will do much. Nuke is like the damn Terminator and wont stop fighting.

Round Two would be different because of the prep and Victors adamantium.

Round 1 goes to team 1 by a hair. This would be due to Batwings flight. Tombstone is very strong and incredibly durable so he would MVP. Round 2 goes to Panther because of his prep skills and Sabretooth with adamantium could cut Tombstone taking out their hardest hitter.

@classymerc: Croc has actually been doing fairly well recently.

i have tons of Batwing scans on my desktop . but idk who would win cause idk feats for most of these guys.

Team T'challa the Balla wins

@warlordeternal: What has he done recently?

@classymerc: He defeated Bane.

@notatreeabush: @hatemalingsia: Both rounds? Any reasons in particular?

@warlordeternal: Seriously?

@classymerc: Yeah. It was fairly recently. During the Batman Eternal story arc.

@warlordeternal: Do you have scans?

@classymerc: No. Unfortunately.

@nelomaxwell:Any reasons in particular?

I personally think Victor is not being factored in here. T'Challa's standard gear can take at least Nuke and Batwing out (Especially if it's Luke). Victor can take Wolfsbane and Tombstone is the only real issue on Luke's team.

@nelomaxwell: Sure, but the first round is strictly H2H. "Standard Gear" only matters if it falls in with that category.

T'Challa is a better fighter than Luke.

@nelomaxwell: No doubt. I'm just saying.

Team Panther both rounds even with jobber Croc

@wavemotioncannon: Any reasons in particular?

@warlordeternal: BP's skills and KoD amp ( he nerve pointed Luke Cage so IMO he should be able to do the same to Tombstone), Sabretooth still has helluva HF even without the adamantium and Crossbones isn't a slouch either. Wolfs bane will be a problem and Batwings inexperience will be his undoing.

@warlordeternal:

Isn't Wolfsbane like 11 feet tall or something? If so, then her proportionate reach (in combination with her speed, agility, and strength) should be a huge factor to everyone on Team 1 except for Sabretooth perhaps due to his healing factor.

IMO...

Team Batwing. Tombstone MVP.

1. Tombstone can basically nigh solo through durability. The only threat being sabretooth, but I think tombstone can take current Creed.
2. Team black panther.

David Zavimbe feats shouldn't transfer to Luke Fox at all.

Two completely different characters with completely different equipment.

David Zavimbe can stalemate on his own.

Luke Fox is Black Panther but with no energy daggers, martial expertise, or enhanced physicals.

Hmmm... Okay, I was unaware of that. Do you think I should make him "pre-KoD"?

I don't know about her being 11 feet tall, But her arms are much longer in her "werewolf" form. I believe she's also held her own against Wolverine, and Sabretooth.

That's why I said "within reason". Like if there's something that David did that Lucas could possibly replicate, then it could be worth noting.

I was unaware of an amp that he attained. Should I make this classic Black Panther?

@warlordeternal: the regular BP fought toe to toe with Iron Fist and nerve struck Luke Cage so I don't think it makes a difference.

@wavemotioncannon: ...How do you nerve strike Luke Cage without any kind of amp?

@warlordeternal: have no idea but he did it. He's above peak human and knows every MA on Marvel Earth so....

@wavemotioncannon: Does he do that to super humans on Luke's level or higher regularly?

@warlordeternal:

@wavemotioncannon: Does he do that super humans on Luke's level or higher regularly?

Truth be told, it's extremely difficult to even begin to gauge what "level" Marvel wants Black Panther to be on. I mean, I've literally seen scans of him curbstomping Mephisto.

In hand to hand combat. Seriously.

I mean, WTF?!?

@heraldofganthet: Okay, That's BS!

I'm gonna make Batwing a composite Luke and David.