#1 Edited by wolverinethesoldier (91 posts) - - Show Bio

Team avengers: Captain america bucky(While bucky was under capt) and wolverine

Vs

Team x men: Cyclops alex summers and Colosses

Battle feild: Rain forest

Starting distance 25 ft

Morals:On

Win by KO or incompatsitation

#2 Posted by _slim_ (13054 posts) - - Show Bio

Stealth would be Team Avengers best option, in giving them a chance too win.

Direct confrontation would do no good.

#3 Posted by wolverinethesoldier (91 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#4 Posted by Bossmonster (2165 posts) - - Show Bio

I really don't see how Team one can get around Colossus. As a team, the Avergers should be able to handle Scott and Alex with out too much trouble.I think 1v1 Cap takes it against Scott. All three have a speed advantage over Colossus, but even if they manage to put the other two away, what can be done after that.

#5 Posted by God_Spawn (37305 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bossmonster said:

I really don't see how Team one can get around Colossus. As a team, the Avergers should be able to handle Scott and Alex with out too much trouble.I think 1v1 Cap takes it against Scott. All three have a speed advantage over Colossus, but even if they manage to put the other two away, what can be done after that.

Wolverine is more than capable of dealing with Colossus.

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#6 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_ said:

Stealth would be Team Avengers best option, in giving them a chance too win.

Direct confrontation would do no good.

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#7 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@Bossmonster said:

I really don't see how Team one can get around Colossus. As a team, the Avergers should be able to handle Scott and Alex with out too much trouble.I think 1v1 Cap takes it against Scott. All three have a speed advantage over Colossus, but even if they manage to put the other two away, what can be done after that.

Wolverine is more than capable of dealing with Colossus.

Really, now ?

#8 Posted by quatro_briefs (384 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is Cyclops Alex Summers?

#9 Posted by God_Spawn (37305 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: Yes, really. Wolverine has already scored Colossus in training exercises and outside of any actual instances (aside from Hellverine), Colossus has been scared of Wolverine's claws going so far as to trip backwards when Wolverine swiped one at him.

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#10 Edited by _slim_ (13054 posts) - - Show Bio

@quatro_briefs said:

Why is Cyclops Alex Summers?

He's not. Pretty sure the OP means it's Cyclops, Havok (Alex), and Colossus.

#11 Posted by quatro_briefs (384 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: Well, no one would want to tank adamantium claws if they can dodge it. But Colossus should be able to take some punishment, enough to lay some hurt on Wolverine. And may I ask, was it Aaron who made Colossus "scared" of Wolverine?

#12 Posted by Bossmonster (2165 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: I would really like an explanation of this. How can he hurt him at all?

Are you saying his claws beat the durability of his armor? Also, what is to stop Logan from just getting knocked out? I fully believe that Logan is the better fighter, but if one punch is tanked to deliver a counter, I see that as the end.

All in all, I just don't understand. If it's possible, I accept that. But I really don't understand how.

#13 Posted by _slim_ (13054 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine would take Colossus. Colossus isn't one-shottin him nor should he be able to lay a hand on Logan.

Also adamantium>organic steel.

#14 Posted by God_Spawn (37305 posts) - - Show Bio

@quatro_briefs: Colossus can lay some hurt but not enough for the majority. He doesn't have the speed feats or skill to really suggest he tag Wolverine if Logan doesn't want him to and Logan is more than capable of soaking his blows by the time he ends. And no, it was not Aaron. The scans are older.

@Bossmonster said:

@god_spawn: I would really like an explanation of this. How can he hurt him at all?

Are you saying his claws beat the durability of his armor? Also, what is to stop Logan from just getting knocked out? I fully believe that Logan is the better fighter, but if one punch is tanked to deliver a counter, I see that as the end.

All in all, I just don't understand. If it's possible, I accept that. But I really don't understand how.

By stabbing him.

Yes I am because adamantium is greater than Colossus' armor. Colossus has been broken or bent numerous times, Wolverine has not. Colossus' arms were bent by WWH who didn't even dent Logan's skull despite numerous hits to his face while Logan hung limp. Riptide ripped into Colossus and the Nimrods broke his arm too. Thor at his classic levels hit an adamantium cylinder with all his might (so he said) with Mjolnir and barely put in a small dent. Adamantium is more durable. And considering Wolverine has stabbed through Namor, Hulk, Thing, Thanos, Thor etc whom all have high piercing resistance feats themselves, Wolverine can cut Colossus and if Colossus couldn't have been then he had no reason to say Wolverine could have cut him to the bone when Stryfe swung him or chicken out when Wolverine tauntingly swiped a claw at him.

And Colossus isn't one shotting Wolverine anyway. His healing factor and skeleton have tanked much worse than what Colossus can dish. Considering Wolverine has soaked blows from over a good slew of super strong characters himself (Colossus himself, Rulk, Juggernaut, multiple versions of Hulk, Namor, Thor, Skaar, Molly Haes, Iron Man, Hulk Buster Iron Man, Thing etc) why Colossus is gonna 1 shot him when he can barely muster the speed or skill to tag him vs the amount of times Wolverine can tag him I don't know. And with the possibility of Cap and Buck still being in this and they themselves are agile enough + vibranium shields to dodge or soak and run interference for Wolverine, Colossus is in trouble not that Wolverine needs them to beat him anyway. There is also the factor Wolverine also played a heavy roll in teaming with Colossus and running Danger Room sessions with him so he knows how he operates.

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#15 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@jeanroygrant: Yes, really. Wolverine has already scored Colossus in training exercises and outside of any actual instances (aside from Hellverine), Colossus has been scared of Wolverine's claws going so far as to trip backwards when Wolverine swiped one at him.

I see

@quatro_briefs said:

@god_spawn: Well, no one would want to tank adamantium claws if they can dodge it. But Colossus should be able to take some punishment, enough to lay some hurt on Wolverine. And may I ask, was it Aaron who made Colossus "scared" of Wolverine?

He can't take punishment from that at all. The claws have cut beings like Hulk & Thor

#16 Edited by quatro_briefs (384 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_: Logan does get hit and like to tank. I know Colossus is not putting him down in one hit, but he can land some, or even BFR him? Also, Colossus seemed to be distracted by Kitty, as Logan pointed out and he was quite abit weaker than as he was in his teens still. I expect an adult Colossus to do some more damage and not act as cowardly, especially if Kitty is not involved lol

#17 Edited by _slim_ (13054 posts) - - Show Bio

@quatro_briefs said:

@_slim_: Logan gets hit all the time. He will get hit and stunned and Cyclops can take him out also.

Ok. But seeing how Logan is very familiar with his opponents, I doubt he's going to allow that. Like I said in my original post, direct confrontation would do no good here.

#18 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (9981 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_ said:

Stealth would be Team Avengers best option, in giving them a chance too win.

Direct confrontation would do no good.

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